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    Humankind has created its fair share of madness over the years but the practice of changing time in an attempt to save energy or whatever is one of my least favorite. It generally takes me at least a week for my body to adjust to these unnecessary time changes so I am very happy to see that our US Senate has agreed with unanimous consent no less to end it and keep spring forward in place starting in 2023. Indiana is pretty far west so we will have lots of dark mornings but bring it on is what I say!

    #2
    I just don't like the extra sunshine.

    It fades the curtains! 🙄

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      #3
      Never been a fan of daylight savings time. Who cares if there's an extra hour of sunlight/moonlight or not. Let time/sun/moon do what it does. Night is cozier anyway. Yeah, bring it on.

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        #4
        If it goes into effect, we'll have Daylight Savings Time forever. Personally I prefer that.
        Rabin-esque
        my labor of love (and obsessive research)
        rabinesque.blogspot.com

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          #5
          Regardless of what the clocks say I would guess that the amount of daylight has been pretty consistent through time....😉

          working pretty much 6am - 6pm min for 23 years. and being on call 24/7/365 for 12 straight years .....every day was the same before getting to leave the race...

          So joking, and not joking, aside, I have no perspective. Except that i change my smoke alarm batteries on the clock changes.👍😁
          Last edited by Gtkgasman; 03-17-2022, 06:08 AM.

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            #6
            Many people have no idea what this clock-switching does to someone with horrific sleep disorders and chronic illnesses. Poor G always has a terrible time with the forward/back bit.

            Ditch it, I say—and good riddance.
            Memorare, O piissima Virgo Maria, non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia, tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia, esse derelictum. Ego tali animatus confidentia, ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro, ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto. Noli, Mater Verbi, verba mea despicere; sed audi propitia et exaudi. Amen.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Gilly Goodness View Post
              I just don't like the extra sunshine.

              It fades the curtains! 🙄
              I hope you're joking.

              There is no "extra" sunshine. They merely stole the daylight from the morning and gave it to the evening. Same amount of sunshine per day whether or not it's DST or Standard Time

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                #8
                Originally posted by pianozach View Post

                I hope you're joking.

                There is no "extra" sunshine. They merely stole the daylight from the morning and gave it to the evening. Same amount of sunshine per day whether or not it's DST or Standard Time
                I wonder how much money they’re paying the morning to not file a lawsuit.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by pianozach View Post

                  There is no "extra" sunshine. They merely stole the daylight from the morning and gave it to the evening. Same amount of sunshine per day whether or not it's DST or Standard Time
                  Next you're gonna tell me the moon is not made from cheese? 😂

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                    #10
                    I'm in the year round standard time camp, personally.

                    Article:

                    The US Senate voted to get rid of twice-yearly time changes this week. But sleep experts warn they’re taking the wrong approach to a real problem


                    Excerpt:

                    The American Academy of Sleep Medicine (AASM) released a statement in response to the Senate’s move, hailing the end of clock-changing but arguing that it should be standard time, not daylight time, that is made permanent. The organization cited an earlier position statement pointing out that “daylight saving time is less aligned with human circadian biology” than standard time.

                    “Permanent, year-round standard time is the best choice to most closely match our circadian sleep-wake cycle,” said the statement’s lead author, Dr M Adeel Rishi, in an accompanying release. Tinkering with our bodies’ natural rhythms could lead to “increased cardiovascular disease risk, metabolic syndrome and other health risks”, the AASM said.

                    “The reason it’s called standard time is because when they came up with these time zones, they did their best to pick the time when the sun was immediately overhead at noon,” said Dr Beth Ann Malow, a neurologist and sleep expert at Vanderbilt University Medical Center who recently testified before House legislators on the issue. “So the idea is that it’s most aligned with getting light when we should get light biologically.”

                    Malow agrees that we should eliminate the twice-yearly changing of the clocks, which she says is associated with medical risks including heart attack and stroke. But of course, by moving the clocks forward, we’re not actually “protecting the sunshine” as the bill claims. We’re just moving it later in the day, meaning more trudging to work or school in the wintry dark.

                    [...]Sleep experts are “big believers in the idea that morning light is really healthy for the body and helps synchronize biological rhythms,” Malow says. “I worry that going to permanent daylight, which is what the Senate just voted to do, is going to hurt a lot of people who really need that morning light.”

                    And contrary to what I’d thought, that includes night owls like me. With the world conspiring to make us operate on a schedule tailored to earlier risers, those who have what’s known as delayed sleep phases – which are all the rage among teenagers – need the morning light to help them. “When I’ve taken care of people with delayed sleep phase, let’s say high school students, and they have to be in school at a certain time, I make sure that they get that light in the morning. We get them light boxes if they need, just to try to get them awake,” Malow says.
                    "A lot of the heavier conversations I was having with Chris toward the end were about his desire for this thing to go forward. He kept reiterating that to me. [...] He kept telling me, 'No matter what happens, Yes needs to continue moving forward and make great music. So promise me that that's something you want to do.'. And I have to keep making music. It's just what I do. [...] I'm a fan of the band and I want to see it thrive and that means new music." -Billy Sherwood

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gilly Goodness View Post

                      Next you're gonna tell me the moon is not made from cheese? 😂
                      I don't know about that, but I've heard that there's a man in it:

                      "A lot of the heavier conversations I was having with Chris toward the end were about his desire for this thing to go forward. He kept reiterating that to me. [...] He kept telling me, 'No matter what happens, Yes needs to continue moving forward and make great music. So promise me that that's something you want to do.'. And I have to keep making music. It's just what I do. [...] I'm a fan of the band and I want to see it thrive and that means new music." -Billy Sherwood

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by downbyariver View Post
                        I'm in the year round standard time camp, personally.

                        Article:

                        https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ings-permanent

                        Excerpt:

                        ". . . morning light is really healthy for the body and helps synchronize biological rhythms . . ."
                        I get the logic, but I don't really agree. People all over the world have natural circadian rhythms, and the morning light is still there.

                        Plenty of folks still get up a 6AM to get to work at 7. Our school is moving it's start time from 7 to 7:30 next semester.

                        For many folks all that "morning light" is wasted as they don't have to start work until 9 or10 . . . they sleep through that morning light.

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                          #13
                          They tried this back in 74 and reversed due mainly to kids going to school in dark.

                          In October 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation reversing permanent daylight saving time. Though approval of the initiative had increased during the long summer days, the prospect of another long, dark—and potentially deadly—winter led lawmakers to end the planned two-year experiment early.

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                            #14
                            I’d rather have permanent standard time than permanent DST (I absolutely abhor late sunsets), but I’ll take what I can get just as long as the knob-fiddling ends, so to speak.
                            Memorare, O piissima Virgo Maria, non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia, tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia, esse derelictum. Ego tali animatus confidentia, ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro, ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto. Noli, Mater Verbi, verba mea despicere; sed audi propitia et exaudi. Amen.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by downbyariver View Post

                              I don't know about that, but I've heard that there's a man in it:

                              Why?

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