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  • #31
    Originally posted by Yesed

    Trying avoid deep politics, but we never get the whole picture of what’s going on from corporate media. Zelenskyy has as much blood on his hands as Putin, for not try to broker peace. There’s just too much power and control involved. Biden is just another puppet.
    Zelensky has as much blood on his hands? So when someone starts an attack on your country, your sovereignty and invades you, your actually supposed to negotiate with them? There is only one here who started this and who is the agressor and that is Putin and Russia.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Mr. Holland

      It's all about you (singular or plural);isn't it? I'm sure the Ukrainian people will be so happy for you that Russia isn't a great danger for you and just a deflection. I can hear them cheer now.....🙄
      It is totally understandable that folks living in a European nation are more concerned with a militant Russia than a citizen of the U. S.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by alex peters

        It is totally understandable that folks living in a European nation are more concerned with a militant Russia than a citizen of the U. S.
        Talking about deflection. This isn't about being concerned about a nation. It's about being concerned with people, with people being slaughtered by the tenthousands at the hands a dictatorial maniac. That's what made Erik start this thread if you actually read and understand his post. It's called empathy, which is something one can have for people regardless whether your from a closeby nation or from one further away. Having to explain this to you, once again makes clear how completely devoid you are of empathy itself and its concept.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by alex peters

          That is a sick comment. I never said any such thing. The outcome of the Russia Ukrainian war will be whatever it is unless we put troops and fight and that will not happen.
          The sick comment was yours, by a sick commenter. Harping on your partisan obsessions while people try to have a civil conversation.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mr. Holland

            Zelensky has as much blood on his hands? So when someone starts an attack on your country, your sovereignty and invades you, your actually supposed to negotiate with them? There is only one here who started this and who is the agressor and that is Putin and Russia.
            This is the Putin narrative and is absolutely friggin insane. It's the narrative of Hungary's Orban and Serbia's Vuchich, that Ukraine is guilty of not giving up their sovereignty and territory to the barking mad Russian tyrant for the sake of peace. The same crap told by paid incels like Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson. Well no, Greene is that stupid, by Carlson is doing it for the dough.

            It's very easy to live in one of the biggest countries, protected by one of the biggest militaries, and take a dump on people fighting for their lives.

            On the other hand, I agree with Alex Peters that the USA is becoming a 3rd world country, but not for the insane reasons his voices told him, but because of the mass shootings, the amount of children massacred annually, the anti-trans, anti-lgbt laws, the criminalization of abortion, the lack of social security and access to medical help, half of a country totally devoid of empathy driven by money alone, driven by religious nuts who should be put away.

            I see the direction, and I see the target to become the Afghanistan or Iran of the west. I just don't see why,
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mr. Holland

              Talking about deflection. This isn't about being concerned about a nation. It's about being concerned with people, with people being slaughtered by the tenthousands at the hands a dictatorial maniac. That's what made Erik start this thread if you actually read and understand his post. It's called empathy, which is something one can have for people regardless whether your from a closeby nation or from one further away. Having to explain this to you, once again makes clear how completely devoid you are of empathy itself and its concept.
              Really, if I want to simplify, it's not left or right anymore, it's either being a human being feeling empathy, or sociopaths either driven by money and/or the religion sowing destruction wherever they turn.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Mr. Holland

                Zelensky has as much blood on his hands? So when someone starts an attack on your country, your sovereignty and invades you, your actually supposed to negotiate with them? There is only one here who started this and who is the agressor and that is Putin and Russia.
                Yep. Right from the beginning he flip flopped on the issue of inclusion with NATO. Only a month in on the war thousands of civilian and military were killed because of his hard stance and refusal to talk peace before it even started. Even now hes being pumped up by the war mongers and profiteers.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mr. Holland

                  Talking about deflection. This isn't about being concerned about a nation. It's about being concerned with people, with people being slaughtered by the tenthousands at the hands a dictatorial maniac. That's what made Erik start this thread if you actually read and understand his post. It's called empathy, which is something one can have for people regardless whether your from a closeby nation or from one further away. Having to explain this to you, once again makes clear how completely devoid you are of empathy itself and its concept.
                  Again, there is nothing in my post that is not true. People here thread crap constantly but when they do it it is ok. Quite frankly it does not bother me when they do it. I bring it up because it is Russia Russia Russia constantly in the Marxist American media. I agree with Somis post. But the media reports hypersonic missile. Bad bad Russia. Again, there is alot more to this conflict than is being reported. It goes back 1200 years.

                  It has nothing to do with empathy and you can go lecture someone else with your psychological exams.

                  When 15 people are killed on the streets of Chicago every weekend do you see the leftist media report it? No! Do they have any empathy for the nonstop gang killings ? No! They ignore it. The hundreds of businessmen who lost their businesses due to the violence of of the terrorist organizations BLM and Antifa. Does the MSNBC's of the world show empathy ? No

                  Did you see the attack on the Chinese restaurant last week where 20 scumbags came in and did $20,000 of damage right in front of customers and employees with their masks on? No arrests! The Leftist media ignored the story. Where is their empathy for this businessman?

                  American citizens living on the Texas Mexico border are having their homes broken in weekly by illegal aliens because this administration will not secure the border. Where is the empathy for these folks? Our President will not go to the border. Where is his empathy?

                  Our President still has not gone to Ohio and visited with the people affected by the train derailment. Shameful! Where is his empathy?

                  The war in Ukraine is tragic. Putin is evil. I feel for the Ukrainians But my point is the Leftist media picks and chooses what they report. They are fixated on a narrative and are just propaganda driven.

                  Six people are killed in the Russian Ukrainian war. Horrible.

                  Hundreds are killed in drug and gang related offenses every week in America.

                  The United States is collapsing . We need to stop policing the world and focus on America first.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Yesed

                    Yep. Right from the beginning he flip flopped on the issue of inclusion with NATO. Only a month in on the war thousands of civilian and military were killed because of his hard stance and refusal to talk peace before it even started. Even now hes being pumped up by the war mongers and profiteers.
                    Yes. But that is not the narrative the propaganda media who are taking their cues from the politicians want to present.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by pjt

                      Really, if I want to simplify, it's not left or right anymore, it's either being a human being feeling empathy, or sociopaths either driven by money and/or the religion sowing destruction wherever they turn.
                      Yes the corrupt politicians who are bought and paid for are sociopaths

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Yesed

                        Yep. Right from the beginning he flip flopped on the issue of inclusion with NATO. Only a month in on the war thousands of civilian and military were killed because of his hard stance and refusal to talk peace before it even started. Even now hes being pumped up by the war mongers and profiteers.
                        So basically because Putin told them not apply for/become a Nato member and Ukraine was toying with the idea, they deserved to be invaded by Putin and Russia. Because it's absolutely fine and rightful for one country to tell another what they can and cannot do and otherwise force them with violence.
                        Last edited by Mr. Holland; 03-12-2023, 06:49 AM.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by alex peters
                          I bring it up because it is Russia Russia Russia constantly in the Marxist American media. I agree with Somis post. But the media reports hypersonic missile. Bad bad Russia.
                          You're either totally ignorant, or just plainly a horrible person. A sociopath incapable of compassion and empathy. Seek help.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Yesed

                            Yep. Right from the beginning he flip flopped on the issue of inclusion with NATO. Only a month in on the war thousands of civilian and military were killed because of his hard stance and refusal to talk peace before it even started. Even now hes being pumped up by the war mongers and profiteers.
                            You simply don't understand what being a sovereign country means.
                            Which is okay knowing your general geography and world politics knowledge, but then would you please stick to banning drag shows, and books? Please?
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by alex peters

                              Yes the corrupt politicians who are bought and paid for are sociopaths
                              I totally agree with this notion. Not with your extremist partisan propaganda of who these people according to you are, though.

                              But thanks for not denying the rest.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by pjt

                                You're either totally ignorant, or just plainly a horrible person. A sociopath incapable of compassion and empathy. Seek help.
                                Look in the mirror. No one is more intolerant towards others you disagree with

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