9 people killed in mass shooting at Monterey Park dance club

[Mr. Holland]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-01-22/la-me-monterey-park-mass-shooting

Now I know exactly what's in order here; some thoughts and prayers! Thoughts and prayers people.

I'm sure the victims and their loved ones of the next mass shooting will be helped by those much, much more than by actual much stricter gun control laws and a ban on automatic and semi automatic guns.

[alex peters]

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-mass-shooting

Now I know exactly what's in order here; some thoughts and prayers! Thoughts and prayers people.

I'm sure the victims and their loved ones of the next mass shooting will be helped by those much, much more than by actual much stricter gun control laws and a ban on automatic and semi automatic guns.

About 800 people are killed in gun violence every year in Chicago. That is about 16 per week. About 520 are killed in Philadelphia. The media ignores this. Why? Not as sensational as a mass shooting and the majority is black on black crime. The media ignores black on black crime. It does not fit their agenda.

How about those 4 Idaho students murdered in their beds a few months ago by a man with a knife. If anyone of them had a gun by their nightstand maybe they would have survived.

How about that 23 year old young woman out of college taking her 1st job in an American crime infested city. The American cities are the Wild West today. I guarantee you she feels much safer with an automatic weapon by her nightstand at night.

Look at the violence in Atlanta last night because a man was killed by police after shooting a policeman.

You allow 3 million illegals to cross the border illegally every year into your country bringing drugs and guns across the border and you want to curtail the legal law abiding citizen the right to choose the weapons they need to protect their families?

A ban on semi automatic and automatic guns will not prevent 1 killing anywhere. Hard drugs are illegal in the United States. But look at the fentanyl crisis in America due to the garbage coming into the country illegally.

Make guns illegal and the criminals will still have them

[alex peters]

How about that 20 year old girl with autism that was murdered by an MS 13 illegal gang member in Maryland? Yes! MS 13 is everywhere.

The government allows this garbage to come into the country and you want to prevent law abiding folks the ability to protect themselves.?

Oregon just passed an unconstitutional gun control law last November. It has not gone into effect as judges have stopped it until all the legal challenges have finished.

In the meantime almost all the Eastern County of Oregon's sheriffs have said NO matter what the outcome they will not enforce the law.

[pianozach]

About 800 people are killed in gun violence every year in Chicago. That is about 16 per week. About 520 are killed in Philadelphia. The media ignores this. Why? Not as sensational as a mass shooting and the majority is black on black crime. The media ignores black on black crime. It does not fit their agenda.

How about those 4 Idaho students murdered in their beds a few months ago by a man with a knife. If anyone of them had a gun by their nightstand maybe they would have survived.

How about that 23 year old young woman out of college taking her 1st job in an American crime infested city. The American cities are the Wild West today. I guarantee you she feels much safer with an automatic weapon by her nightstand at night.

Look at the violence in Atlanta last night because a man was killed by police after shooting a policeman.

You allow 3 million illegals to cross the border illegally every year into your country bringing drugs and guns across the border and you want to curtail the legal law abiding citizen the right to choose the weapons they need to protect their families?

A ban on semi automatic and automatic guns will not prevent 1 killing anywhere. Hard drugs are illegal in the United States. But look at the fentanyl crisis in America due to the garbage coming into the country illegally.

Make guns illegal and the criminals will still have them

It's astonishing how much your pro-gun stance appears to be blatantly racist as well.

Of course, you're NOT a racist, right? You just SOUND like one.

[alex peters]

It's astonishing how much your pro-gun stance appears to be blatantly racist as well.

Of course, you're NOT a racist, right? You just SOUND like one.

What is racist about the post? Is it the fact that black on black crime in Chicago is a fact. Is a true statement mean that someone is a racist. The biggest racists are the liberals like Maxine Waters and AL Sharpton .

[pianozach]

What is racist about the post? Is it the fact that black on black crime in Chicago is a fact. Is a true statement mean that someone is a racist. The biggest racists are the liberals like Maxine Waters and AL Sharpton .

I realize that you simply don't see what's racist about your posts. In YOUR mind you are merely posting facts, but in reality they are mere factoids devoid of context, small details that don't give an accurate picture of an entire issue.

With the previous post, it's not your facts that are racist: It's the facts that you present, and the facts that you don't present.

With THIS post you don't even realize that you're doubling down with the racist rhetoric; you again pick only facts that seem relevant to YOU, then close with a racist non-fact about how two black politican/leaders are racist - and not JUST racist, the "BIGGEST racists". You don't even SEE how racist that is.

So again, you may see yourself as "NOT being a racist", but you are commenting with selected "facts" and non-facts in a racist manner. You don't see the racism inherent in your posts because you KNOW you are not a racist, so how could your comments be racist? The problem is you have selective vision when selecting your facts. Anyone can walk into a forest pull a handful of weeds, then exit that forest and tell everyone else that forests are nothing but weeds, then show them your "proof".

[alex peters]

I realize that you simply don't see what's racist about your posts. In YOUR mind you are merely posting facts, but in reality they are mere factoids devoid of context, small details that don't give an accurate picture of an entire issue.

With the previous post, it's not your facts that are racist: It's the facts that you present, and the facts that you don't present.

With THIS post you don't even realize that you're doubling down with the racist rhetoric; you again pick only facts that seem relevant to YOU, then close with a racist non-fact about how two black politican/leaders are racist - and not JUST racist, the "BIGGEST racists". You don't even SEE how racist that is.

So again, you may see yourself as "NOT being a racist", but you are commenting with selected "facts" and non-facts in a racist manner. You don't see the racism inherent in your posts because you KNOW you are not a racist, so how could your comments be racist? The problem is you have selective vision when selecting your facts. Anyone can walk into a forest pull a handful of weeds, then exit that forest and tell everyone else that forests are nothing but weeds, then show them your "proof".

Thanks for the incoherent lecture.

[pianozach]

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-mass-shooting

Now I know exactly what's in order here; some thoughts and prayers! Thoughts and prayers people.

I'm sure the victims and their loved ones of the next mass shooting will be helped by those much, much more than by actual much stricter gun control laws and a ban on automatic and semi automatic guns.

Up to ten deaths now.

Witnesses have described the shooter as an Asian male. The crime scene was a dance club/dance studio located in a mostly Asian community on the occasion of festivities for the Chinese New Year.

Tragic. Worst mass shooting since the Uvaldi school shooting last year.

[alex peters]

Approximately 41 other people will be murdered today in the United States. Maybe more with a weekend. My heart goes out to all the victims of these senseless crimes in a country that has become weak

[pjt]

Approximately 41 other people will be murdered today in the United States. Maybe more with a weekend. My heart goes out to all the victims of these senseless crimes in a country that has become weak

It's your choice to make it weak again. Guns make it weaker.
Looking from here it's a third world problem that could be fixed in a second if people weren't that damn cowards.

[alex peters]

It's your choice to make it weak again. Guns make it weaker.
Looking from here it's a third world problem that could be fixed in a second if people weren't that damn cowards.

No. It's weak because the border is not secure. And it is weak because the judges and DA's like this Philadelphia DA is weak.

Did you see where the man who ran over a 21 year old mother pushing her baby in a carriage last summer in Venice Beach spent 3 months in jail for attempted murder thanks to the weakness of the Los Angeles DA?

He got justice this week . He lives in Palmdale . He was walking down the street and a car pulled up next to him and someone in the car pumped a half dozen bullets into him. This is street justice. Weak liberal DA'a create an atmosphere where street justice takes hold

[pjt]

Oops, sorry Alex this just ends our future conversations.

[Mr. Holland]

How about those 4 Idaho students murdered in their beds a few months ago by a man with a knife. If anyone of them had a gun by their nightstand maybe they would have survived.

That is such an effing fallacy. You can just as well say if the man had a gun, maybe ten students would have been murdered instead of four.

[alex peters]

Oops, sorry Alex this just ends our future conversations.

Well, the Venice Beach story is true. Everything in the above post is true

[alex peters]

That is such an effing fallacy. You can just as well say if the man had a gun, maybe ten students would have been murdered instead of four.

My point is this intruder killed 4 people with a knife. Not easy to do. If any of the residents had a gun they may have been able to shoot the intruder(killer) before he murdered all 4.