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    Elon Musk Calls The New York Times For What It Is

    Elon Musk declares freedom of speech is back at Twitter and in the meantime says the New York Times is nothing more than "Far Left Brainwashing".

    Who would have thought 20 years ago a newspaper would get a Pulitzer for its reporting of the Russian Trump collusion that was completely false.

    Musk is a breath of fresh air. And he is no one's fool.


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    Musk is objectively running Twitter into the ground. The level of employee turnover there, created in part by firings and ultimatums issued from the new owner, has brought about a situation where a lot of people feel the site might literally start having trouble with traffic management and such. They don't have enough software engineers left to support a company of their size. There's also the blue check mark fiasco (Do a web search if you're curious and haven't heard about it.).

    And that's without even getting into him giving a platform back to a seditious former President who fermented a violent coup (Really, a domestic terrorist attack), in part using Twitter, to try to stay in power against the will of the electorate and the American constitutional system.

    As to your other point, though I don't think the New York Times is by any means a friend of Trumpism, and despite Trump's disparagement of the newspaper, I consider them a center-right publication. They were big cheerleaders for President Bush's (43) war in Iraq, and adopted outside of quotation marks or any context of a discussion of it's validity as a phrase to describe what was going on, to use the phrase "enhanced interrogation" instead of "torture", even though we convicted and executed Japanese soldiers who waterboarded people for war crimes after the second World War, and the army field manual at least at one time included waterboarding in a section on resisting potential torture techniques from enemy soldiers. An objective newspaper would have used the term "torture", or at least avoided taking a stand by arranging their articles so as to avoid both "enhanced interrogation" and "torture" outside of quotation marks or terminology discussions, and instead just named or described specifically what was being done (Such as simply using the term "waterboarding").

    Conservatives tend to demand real conservatism, or at least fealty to their favorite politicians, out of publications they'll consider conservative and read regularly. Liberals tend to more likely to want to feel like they are keeping an open mind and thus will accept stuff like The New York Times as if it is on their side or unbiased even when it very clearly sides with Republicans on some issues. Combine that with the Republican Party still more than ever embrace the "working the refs" strategy crafted by Spiro Agnew and Pat Buchanan to paint a largely objective or moderate press as liberal, causing them take the criticism to heart bend over backwards to appease conservatives, and to provide a means for grassroots conservatives to dismiss news from legitimate sources in favor of conspiracy theories, and I really don't think there are nearly as many liberal publications as people think. They exist- the Huffington Post is an example of a liberal medication- but the mainstream media by and large isn't liberal. Agnew, Buchanan, and their successors have just waged a very successful (For them- harmful to the country) PR campaign against them.
    Last edited by downbyariver; 11-20-2022, 02:39 PM.
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      #3
      Twitter's for twats. And they've got King Twat running the show now.

      You reap what you sow...

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        #4
        Originally posted by downbyariver View Post
        Musk is objectively running Twitter into the ground. The level of employee turnover there, created in part by firings and ultimatums issued from the new owner, has brought about a situation where a lot of people feel the site might literally start having trouble with traffic management and such. They don't have enough software engineers left to support a company of their size. There's also the blue check mark fiasco (Do a web search if you're curious and haven't heard about it.).

        And that's without even getting into him giving a platform back to a seditious former President who fermented a violent coup (Really, a domestic terrorist attack), in part using Twitter, to try to stay in power against the will of the electorate and the American constitutional system.

        As to your other point, though I don't think the New York Times is by any means a friend of Trumpism, and despite Trump's disparagement of the newspaper, I consider them a center-right publication. They were big cheerleaders for President Bush's (43) war in Iraq, and adopted outside of quotation marks or any context of a discussion of it's validity as a phrase to describe what was going on, to use the phrase "enhanced interrogation" instead of "torture", even though we convicted and executed Japanese soldiers who waterboarded people for war crimes after the second World War, and the army field manual at least at one time included waterboarding in a section on resisting potential torture techniques from enemy soldiers. An objective newspaper would have used the term "torture", or at least avoided taking a stand by arranging their articles so as to avoid both "enhanced interrogation" and "torture" outside of quotation marks or terminology discussions, and instead just named or described specifically what was being done (Such as simply using the term "waterboarding").

        Conservatives tend to demand real conservatism, or at least fealty to their favorite politicians, out of publications they'll consider conservative and read regularly. Liberals tend to more likely to want to feel like they are keeping an open mind and thus will accept stuff like The New York Times as if it is on their side or unbiased even when it very clearly sides with Republicans on some issues. Combine that with the Republican Party still more than ever embrace the "working the refs" strategy crafted by Spiro Agnew and Pat Buchanan to paint a largely objective or moderate press as liberal, causing them take the criticism to heart bend over backwards to appease conservatives, and to provide a means for grassroots conservatives to dismiss news from legitimate sources in favor of conspiracy theories, and I really don't think there are nearly as many liberal publications as people think. They exist- the Huffington Post is an example of a liberal medication- but the mainstream media by and large isn't liberal. Agnew, Buchanan, and their successors have just waged a very successful (For them- harmful to the country) PR campaign against them.
        Twitter was a financial disaster before Musk bought it. I am not sure how he got it financed. Firing people is the norm in a restructuring. The company is now a private company.

        There is zero evidence Trump fermented a violent coup. Only in 3rd world countries can you not challenge the results of elections. The only unconstitutional event was by Democratic controlled states changing election laws due to covid. These unconstitutional actions were the reason Biden won. There were millions of votes cast without legal identification.

        As far as the New York Times the Bush Era is ancient history.. The New York Times today is not the New York Times of 20 years ago. That is the ancient past. The Times is no center right publication today.

        Agnew / Buchanan ? What are you drinking today Mr. Down by the river?

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          #5
          I hear that because oversight of posts at Twitter is now as thin as a funeral drum, use of the N-word has skyrocketed 500%.

          AND people are posting entire films on Twitter as no one is looking after flagging material protected by copyright. It's evidently a free-for-all.

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            #6
            Originally posted by pianozach View Post
            I hear that because oversight of posts at Twitter is now as thin as a funeral drum, use of the N-word has skyrocketed 500%.

            AND people are posting entire films on Twitter as no one is looking after flagging material protected by copyright. It's evidently a free-for-all.
            The good news for you is you got Truth Social amd Parler. Enjoy

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              #7
              Fermented coups are disruptive and intoxicating at the same time.

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                #8
                Originally posted by josuev80 View Post

                Fermented coups are disruptive and intoxicating at the same time.
                DEAD SET CLASSIC RIPOSTE!!!

                Well played sir. You see that's where Russ-bot gives him or her away. The slight slips that Anglophone speakers wouldn't make. A red flag.

                Snug in his or her Moscow apartment, earnin' a few extra roubles to "foment" trouble on social media, this Russ-bot has studied American way of life. Hobbies? Golf. Yes. That seems safe enough. It's a side hustle. Vodka and heatin' are gettin' expensive as the Russian Winter closes in. 😉

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by josuev80 View Post
                  Fermented coups are disruptive and intoxicating at the same time.
                  Challenging whether an election was constitutional is not a coup. No one was killed in the riot except nutcase Nancy's desk got pissed on.

                  The real question was why was there no security? Why? Because nutcase Nancy wanted the riot

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gilly Goodness View Post

                    DEAD SET CLASSIC RIPOSTE!!!

                    Well played sir. You see that's where Russ-bot gives him or her away. The slight slips that Anglophone speakers wouldn't make. A red flag.

                    Snug in his or her Moscow apartment, earnin' a few extra roubles to "foment" trouble on social media, this Russ-bot has studied American way of life. Hobbies? Golf. Yes. That seems safe enough. It's a side hustle. Vodka and heatin' are gettin' expensive as the Russian Winter closes in. 😉
                    Whiskey and heating oil getting expensive in New York also as Winter closes in

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by alex peters View Post

                      Whiskey and heating oil getting expensive in New York also as Winter closes in
                      OK. I'll pay that one. Whoever you are. Wherever you are. Hope you stay safe and warm. All good 😁




                      and maybe Google deaths on the day of Jan6.
                      Last edited by Gilly Goodness; 11-20-2022, 03:44 PM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gilly Goodness View Post

                        OK. I'll pay that one. Whoever you are. Wherever you are. Hope you stay safe and warm. All good 😁
                        Same to you.. California 1/2 of the year and Oregon the other half Dry dry dry and very pleasant in California. Dry dry dry and very pleasant in Oregon May thru October

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by alex peters View Post

                          Challenging whether an election was constitutional is not a coup. No one was killed in the riot except nutcase Nancy's desk got pissed on.

                          The real question was why was there no security? Why? Because nutcase Nancy wanted the riot
                          How quickly Ashley Babbitt is forgotten. And some Capitol police officers. One officer had his eye gouged out by a flagpole carrying a Trump flag.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by pianozach View Post

                            How quickly Ashley Babbitt is forgotten. And some Capitol police officers. One officer had his eye gouged out by a flagpole carrying a Trump flag.

                            I did not forget her. When I said no one got killed I meant a non rioter protester. Where is the justice for her? None as the killer was a Capitol policeman. How many died in Democratic Philadelphia and Chicago this weekend?
                            Last edited by alex peters; 11-20-2022, 04:19 PM.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by alex peters View Post
                              Elon Musk declares freedom of speech is back at Twitter and in the meantime says the New York Times is nothing more than "Far Left Brainwashing".

                              Who would have thought 20 years ago a newspaper would get a Pulitzer for its reporting of the Russian Trump collusion that was completely false.

                              Musk is a breath of fresh air. And he is no one's fool.
                              This statement is a broad based false assumption and most likely fake spews.

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