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    #31
    Saga is an old person's holiday and insurance company. Styx is something in a Rush song.

    I can't say that I've knowingly heard anything by either band. Am I missing something??

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      #32
      Originally posted by Yorkshire Square View Post
      Saga is an old person's holiday and insurance company. Styx is something in a Rush song.
      Harsh but fair assessment…

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        #33
        Originally posted by Yorkshire Square View Post
        Saga is an old person's holiday and insurance company. Styx is something in a Rush song.

        I can't say that I've knowingly heard anything by either band. Am I missing something??
        You’ve never heard a Styx tune, even by accident, in 50 years....😏..😯..ok....🤔😂

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          #34
          Styx and Saga are both accessible melodic rock outfits with progressive elements, closer to Asia, GTR, Rush, Queen, Trevor Rabin, and many others. No, they don't sound like any of those, but are closer to that than, say, Larks Tongues In Aspic part 4. I was hearing a harder rock Supertramp on a couple of those early Saga albums. And I hear straight on Beatles throughout the Styx catalogue despite being labeled by many as some vapid bone-headed AOR juggernaut. But then again, Beatles is in the fabric of most of those bands anyway. Are you missing something? Maybe, maybe not. Depends on personal musical taste. Like any established brand group, they have their moments of brilliance and moments of cringable 'what were they thinking?'.

          Fine music to be heard from both to be sure, there is much by both groups worthy of attention. Might not be the stuff for a Gates-Of-Delirium-and-nothing-else type music fan who would prefer Gentle Giant all day long, though nothing wrong with that either. Music is food, everyone gets different nutrients from it. Could be a slow burn artist where one could go from 'their ok, I guess' to 'I kinda like 'em' to eventually 'I gotta get some more of their albums'.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Gtkgasman View Post

            You’ve never heard a Styx tune, even by accident, in 50 years....😏..😯..ok....🤔😂
            Not that I was aware that it was Styx. I've just pulled up "Styx Greatest Hits" on Amazon and I didn't recognise a single song. All I can say is I'm glad I haven't got to listen to the tracks didn't make the cut... 🙄

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              #36
              Tonight, when I've recovered, I will try Saga. I hope that they turn out to be the better outfit, you couldn't get much lower.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Yorkshire Square View Post
                Tonight, when I've recovered, I will try Saga. I hope that they turn out to be the better outfit, you couldn't get much lower.
                Nah, don’t bother. You won’t like them either. Wakeman played with both bands so you won’t like em. 😉

                Enjoy your tea and crumpets, and your freedoms, which the USA had happily saved and provided for you, enjoy what you like, and have a glorious day.
                Last edited by Gtkgasman; 03-06-2022, 04:52 AM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Gtkgasman View Post
                  Enjoy... your freedoms, which the USA had happily saved and provided for you...
                  Really??? 😒😒😒😒😒

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Yorkshire Square View Post

                    Really??? 😒😒😒😒😒
                    Yup. I know you are not fond of us “crazy Americans” as you so politely put it anyway.

                    And I don’t particularly like your new picture. If it wasnt for the USA you would be waiting in line for your borscht and coffee, or goosestepping to get your morning paper. I’d rather you just said thanks and be on your way.
                    Last edited by Gtkgasman; 03-06-2022, 06:13 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Gtkgasman View Post

                      Yup. I know you are not fond of us “crazy Americans” as you so politely put it anyway.

                      And I don’t particularly like your new picture. If it wasnt for the USA you would be waiting in line for your borscht and coffee, or goosestepping to get your morning paper. I’d rather you just said thanks and be on your way.
                      Sorry, my apologies. I didn't realise this was your own private thread where no-one was allowed to call out your personal whack-off ideas.

                      Of course the Allied victory had nothing to do with French, Polish, Indian, Russian, Chinese or British soldiers and everything to do with a few Yanks who arrived long after the match had actually started...

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                        #41
                        Well Saga proved a little more difficult. There are a lot of acts called Saga and not all of them American rock bands, viz:

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                        Anyway, I found an album called Sagacity and another one with the same logo, but I can't remember what it was called.

                        They were both pretty rubbish.

                        I deem this match a tie!

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Yorkshire Square View Post

                          Sorry, my apologies. I didn't realise this was your own private thread where no-one was allowed to call out your personal whack-off ideas.

                          Of course the Allied victory had nothing to do with French, Polish, Indian, Russian, Chinese or British soldiers and everything to do with a few Yanks who arrived long after the match had actually started...
                          Nope. Just expressing my point of view. You can say whatever you like. And I’ll do the same.

                          And you keep thinking that about the war and Cold War thereafter, if it makes you feel better to demean the Americans who fought for you. Hope that makes you real proud.

                          you put up the pic of an American with a Russian and North Korean. Not me. Hope that makes you feel real good about yourself, real funny guy at these times. Idiocy.
                          Last edited by Gtkgasman; 03-06-2022, 09:53 AM.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Yorkshire Square View Post
                            Well Saga proved a little more difficult. There are a lot of acts called Saga
                            This is the Saga you're looking for-

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_(band)

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_(band)#Studio_albums

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                            and not all of them American rock bands
                            The Saga in question actually hails from Canada.

                            Anyway, I found an album called Sagacity
                            I don't have that album, but it is a Saga album.
                            "A lot of the heavier conversations I was having with Chris toward the end were about his desire for this thing to go forward. He kept reiterating that to me. [...] He kept telling me, 'No matter what happens, Yes needs to continue moving forward and make great music. So promise me that that's something you want to do.'. And I have to keep making music. It's just what I do. [...] I'm a fan of the band and I want to see it thrive and that means new music." -Billy Sherwood

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                              #44
                              This seems like the best thread for this question.

                              My copy of Saga's 1987 album, Wildest Dreams has the title track appearing as both track 3, running 4:58, and track 9, running 4:59. Track three is the canonical placement and runtime.

                              Typically, since the second iteration of the track is tacked on to the end of the album (Which otherwise runs 8 tracks), I would assume track 9 to be a differentiated version like a "single version", "extended version", "demo version", "alternate lyric version", "acoustic version", or somesuch. I can not figure out any difference between the music on these two tracks.

                              Does anyone have a version of Wildest Dreams with an extra version of the title track and, if so, do you have any idea what the difference is between it and track 3?
                              Last edited by downbyariver; 03-06-2022, 12:17 PM.
                              "A lot of the heavier conversations I was having with Chris toward the end were about his desire for this thing to go forward. He kept reiterating that to me. [...] He kept telling me, 'No matter what happens, Yes needs to continue moving forward and make great music. So promise me that that's something you want to do.'. And I have to keep making music. It's just what I do. [...] I'm a fan of the band and I want to see it thrive and that means new music." -Billy Sherwood

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                                #45
                                Anyhow, I voted for Styx because they are basically iconic in the US and I have all their albums. I have a feeling it'd be the other way around had I grown up on Canadian radio, though, and it may be the other way around for me anyway eventually as I very slowly continue to accumulate Saga albums and eventually the "what was on classic rock radio when I was growing up" gap fades into the ether as time passes and the bands get on more equal footing in my collection in terms of volume and times listened to. Neither of these groups are tier 1A for me, but both have songs and albums to recommend- and both are groups I wouldn't mind seeing open for Yes (One of them even has, and the other has done Cruise to the Edge with Yes, so they almost have. I didn't go to that tour and I've never been out to sea, so I didn't get to see either of them with Yes, but I imagine some people here have.).
                                Last edited by downbyariver; 03-06-2022, 12:16 PM.
                                "A lot of the heavier conversations I was having with Chris toward the end were about his desire for this thing to go forward. He kept reiterating that to me. [...] He kept telling me, 'No matter what happens, Yes needs to continue moving forward and make great music. So promise me that that's something you want to do.'. And I have to keep making music. It's just what I do. [...] I'm a fan of the band and I want to see it thrive and that means new music." -Billy Sherwood

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