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  • Davy
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    Originally posted by Homemade Parachute View Post

    Frankly, I'd be more than happy to buy the physical book/booklet, and have everything else as a download; even better would just be a nice PDF of everything (cheaper to mail to the Hinterland here, for one thing)… Physical media is, if not dead, dying: my last CD/DVD player is a c. 2012 iMac now finally put away in a closet, so my daze of ripping new CDs is over. And honestly, I was kind of ticked off (although not enough to not buy) some of the latest Marillion remasters, which put crucial songs (usually b-sides) on BluRay only, which a) no idea what the market for BR audio is, but I'm guessing not that big, and b) good luck transferring that to your playback device of choice (ie, mobile phone). Of all the Tull remasters, too, while I'm hoping they continue with Broadsword, if they do release a box, I'm really gonna have to jump through some hoops to fire up a 10 or 11 year old computer and move things around, but I really do like the packaging! Damnit.

    (Footnote: great example here was Springsteen's The Ties that Bind on iTunes: 4 "CDs" of audio, a full-length concert video, a smattering of other videos, and a 170 page PDF book.)
    Wow, I'm not alone. I haven't bought any CDs/vinyl/cassettes since 2014, but I do miss some of the physical product and artwork that would come along with them, especially as Yes doesn't seem to offer prints or small posters anymore.

    On the other hand, it is pretty easy to download the album covers and make prints (sorry, Roger!)

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  • Gtkgasman
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    Originally posted by rabin105 View Post
    its been rumored hinted and talked about by even yes official it is now what 3 years ago when they were asking for early Banks stuff with no legal ramifications.
    Yeah. I saw all that. Here and there. I just see it as SOP, normal advertising and hype. No excitement here until I see it happen. Although I AM in great favor of having this one come to fruition😊

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  • agentarmstrong
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    Originally posted by bondegezou View Post

    It is annoying that box sets these days often automatically come with vinyl. I have no use for vinyl: I'll pay good money for other stuff, but I'm not going to buy an expensive set with a double LP in it.
    Thanks for your honesty, Henry.

    I frankly feel often ALONE with all the excitement over vinyl lately. There was a time for it, I certainly agree the "big cover art" looks great - but it just frankly takes up too much room, is heavy, and the truth is I have cultivated a CD and DVD media collection I treasure more.

    Taking on new vinyl in 2022 - after so many years of "missing pieces" (like TALK through MAGNIFICATION for YES), why get in to new vinyl now (again, I speak for myself).

    Forcing me as a dedicated /ASIA\ fan to pay that much extra, to get 2 vinyls I don't really want, just to acquire a CD and DVD that I really DO want...? I don't know. It's just a hard sell to me, and at this age even if I CAN afford to buy it, I'm asking myself - "Do I really WANT to?"

    -/AgentA\
    Douglas

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  • Homemade Parachute
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    Originally posted by bondegezou View Post

    It is annoying that box sets these days often automatically come with vinyl. I have no use for vinyl: I'll pay good money for other stuff, but I'm not going to buy an expensive set with a double LP in it.
    Frankly, I'd be more than happy to buy the physical book/booklet, and have everything else as a download; even better would just be a nice PDF of everything (cheaper to mail to the Hinterland here, for one thing)… Physical media is, if not dead, dying: my last CD/DVD player is a c. 2012 iMac now finally put away in a closet, so my daze of ripping new CDs is over. And honestly, I was kind of ticked off (although not enough to not buy) some of the latest Marillion remasters, which put crucial songs (usually b-sides) on BluRay only, which a) no idea what the market for BR audio is, but I'm guessing not that big, and b) good luck transferring that to your playback device of choice (ie, mobile phone). Of all the Tull remasters, too, while I'm hoping they continue with Broadsword, if they do release a box, I'm really gonna have to jump through some hoops to fire up a 10 or 11 year old computer and move things around, but I really do like the packaging! Damnit.

    (Footnote: great example here was Springsteen's The Ties that Bind on iTunes: 4 "CDs" of audio, a full-length concert video, a smattering of other videos, and a 170 page PDF book.)

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  • rabin105
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    Originally posted by Gtkgasman View Post

    Promised??
    its been rumored hinted and talked about by even yes official it is now what 3 years ago when they were asking for early Banks stuff with no legal ramifications.

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  • bondegezou
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    Originally posted by agentarmstrong View Post
    I didn't really think this was a "necessary" addition to the catalog - yet in the CD/DVD/Digital era, maybe it is.

    I really have "zero" use for the LPs, unfortunately. While I have a record player, I find I use my CD player 100-1 more than my vinyl, easily.

    I would LOVE to own the DVD and the art goodies LOL. I love ALPHA so much. But with the price tag here, for all that vinyl I don't want, I have to kind of sit on this and weigh the benefits (BEYOND simply "being an /ASIA\ completist").
    It is annoying that box sets these days often automatically come with vinyl. I have no use for vinyl: I'll pay good money for other stuff, but I'm not going to buy an expensive set with a double LP in it.

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  • Gtkgasman
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    Originally posted by rabin105 View Post

    maybe Yes can catch Boxset fever with that BBC boxset were promised
    Promised??

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  • rabin105
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    Originally posted by Esthe View Post
    First Bill Bruford, and now Asia. Boxsets are catching like the flu!
    maybe Yes can catch Boxset fever with that BBC boxset were promised

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  • agentarmstrong
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    I didn't really think this was a "necessary" addition to the catalog - yet in the CD/DVD/Digital era, maybe it is.

    I really have "zero" use for the LPs, unfortunately. While I have a record player, I find I use my CD player 100-1 more than my vinyl, easily.

    I would LOVE to own the DVD and the art goodies LOL. I love ALPHA so much. But with the price tag here, for all that vinyl I don't want, I have to kind of sit on this and weigh the benefits (BEYOND simply "being an /ASIA\ completist").

    ​​​​​​-/AgentA\
    Douglas

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  • Old Frothingslosh
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    Originally posted by Esthe View Post
    First Bill Bruford, and now Asia. Boxsets are catching like the flu!
    Bill needs the $ to upgrade his garden 😀

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  • downbyariver
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    Originally posted by Gilly Goodness View Post
    In the Budokan gig, Lake sings,

    "Now we find ourselves in '83
    The disco hotspots hold no charms for me."


    Will the next ASIA singer, sing this

    "Now we find ourselves in '22
    The covid hotspots hold no charms for you."


    ??????????????
    John Payne updated it to '92 in '92. I don't think he messed with any of the other words, though.

    I understand that John Wetton was referring to a club with "82", but that's kind of arcane knowledge. You don't release a song like that to a mass market in 1982 without realizing that when you reference finding yourself in '82 (the current year), and disco hotspots no longer holding charm for you (Disco also being something rooted in a time- the 70s, right before '82), people are going to assume it's the year and, in fact, some have mentioned that Wetton himself changed it to reflect the current year sometimes live (I haven't heard those tapes, but I believe people when they say it.). I feel like it always had a double meaning.

    I've read Eddie Vedder, the lead singer of Pearl Jam, mention several times that he wrote "Alive" as (this is a paraphrase describing it my own way- not a quote or anything close to a quote) being from the perspective of someone who'd been through a lot in life and had his father die, questioning why he personally was still alive in sort of a depressed anguished fashion, but that the fans started singing it and responding to it as an anthem about celebrating life despite tough circumstances, and it has actually influenced the way the band plays it live. Vedder sings it as more of an upbeat song now, responding to what people hear in his art rather than doubling down on his original intent.

    Honestly, I don't mind if they keep the line in "Heat of the Moment" as it is in the studio, or update it for "22" when they perform it live. Either works for me. If you change the year, you might also want to change the word "disco" to "techno" or "dance club", just because someone getting sick of disco hotspots in the year 2022 doesn't really match cultural history as we know it. I wouldn't go much further than that if they want to change it, though- change the year and change disco, but keep the bones of it the same.

    If I had to guess, the current lead singer being someone who's worked in Keith Emerson's band and a band started by a former member of Chicago to play early Chicago songs and other songs in a similar style, that he'll want to stick precisely to the source material lyrics wise, but that's just a wild guess based on his career to date as I know it. I have no idea, really.
    Last edited by downbyariver; 03-22-2022, 02:25 PM.

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  • Gtkgasman
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    Originally posted by cybrkhatru View Post


    I'd like the CD/DVD or CD/Blu Ray package. Don't really need the other stuff, even though I'm a n LP fan!



    Here is a link also to another description with ref to the extra tracks and second concert. Hmm
    https://www.kshe95.com/real-rock-new...e-out-in-june/

    Looks like it’s all in one package -

    Multi-platinum selling English supergroup ASIA announce they are to release ASIA In Asia – Live At The Budokan, Tokyo, 1983, as a Deluxe box set containing: 2LP, 2xCD, 40 page 12” book, Blu-ray video, printed memorabilia and ‘ASIA’ pin badge, through BMG Records on 10th June 2022.
    Last edited by Gtkgasman; 03-22-2022, 09:28 AM.

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  • cybrkhatru
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    Originally posted by bondegezou View Post

    There's a Japanese version with the Blu-ray + 2 CDs, but no vinyl: https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/%E3%82...1Rv67TJlmt64pM

    I don't know whether that will just be for Japan or whether we'll see that version in the UK.

    I'd like the CD/DVD or CD/Blu Ray package. Don't really need the other stuff, even though I'm a n LP fan!

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  • Gtkgasman
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    Originally posted by bondegezou View Post

    The box has material that wasn't previously released. The other releases are offering maybe better sound, but, yes, content we've heard b4.
    Gotcha. Thx!! I was just going to search for a tracklist now.

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  • bondegezou
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    Originally posted by Gtkgasman View Post
    So there is nothing new in the set that we all don’t have 50 times over already? Or am I missing the boat here?
    The box has material that wasn't previously released. The other releases are offering maybe better sound, but, yes, content we've heard b4.

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