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  • Gtkgasman
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    My two cents on RRHOF. It’s a business. It’s an entertainment venue, an attraction, to visit. That’s all.

    Now - did I want YES inducted? Absolutely. Cause, when I eventually find my self in Cleveland (😳) for whatever reason, in my travels, I will visit, and I want to see some Yes Stuff!! Wear a shirt, take my obligatory thumbs up photo in front of a display, etc.

    id like to see elp, and deep purple, and Iron Maiden get in. Yeah. Cause i like them! But I don’t feel less about em if they don’t, and I don’t listen to jay z cause he did get in. Not my cup of tea, but it’s somebodys. It’s a business for them. Just a casual afternoon stroll thru for me.

    I cant comment on an individual artists desire. Sure it’s diff for all.

    ***Oh, and yeah, with The Police in there, I gotta have some semblance of equal ground in my household with the Mrs’ band. 😂😂😂😆😆😆😉😉😉🤣***

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  • Soundwaveseeker
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    RRHOF isn't something a lot of bands take too seriously, really. A lot of the time they only want to get in because their fans want it. I think people realize that long term success with album sales, musical innovation, successful tours and a good fanbase is a better gage of being 'Rock & Roll' enough than whether they are accepted by a panel of critics and hipsters. Artists realize being in the RRHOF isn't the be all pinnacle of their career, and aren't really bothered too much if a gangsta rap guy or a one-hit wonder squeaks in first. Lesser, 'cooler' and more current artists have gotten in quicker than a lot of more deserving artists, but it seems to be how they operate.

    So really, nobody really takes it all to seriously over here - people just like awards shows and Grammys and stuff. Usually RRHOF waits until somebody croaks, then it's all 'rock & roll legend' and 'visionary icon' and all that. I'm sure that if Jon Anderson was found dead in a tub od'd on azalea and peony dust or if Steve joined a cult and slew his family with a Gibson Les Paul, Yes would have been in there way sooner. Your chances are higher if you can be perceived as a rock & roll rebel. RRHOF does occupy some attention here, but really because people like awards shows and seeing people in tuxedos. RRHOF can't be taken too seriously, but I suppose they can't put in all the legendary groups and artists in at the same time, can they? I'm not even sure who's up for it this time this year, haven't kept up.
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  • pianozach
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    Originally posted by Ash Armstrong View Post

    I think his lack of interest in the whole thing is genuine, not sour grapes or envy, from what I've read and heard. As a European I find it an odd kind of set up, but it seems to occupy a lot of people's attention within the US, though why that is isn't something I've troubled to look into. I personally don't see the point of it at all, but I have the same view of honours and awards and titles and such over here anyway.
    As near as I can figure, the RRHOF is a promotional device to bolster the standings of artists that the producers and distributors can still squeeze profits from.

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  • Ash Armstrong
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    Originally posted by pianozach View Post

    Todd and the RRHOF . . .

    Like many artists that were unjustly excluded for so long, while cr*p bands got in ahead, well, they became "disenchanted" with the whole concept of the RRHOF.
    I think his lack of interest in the whole thing is genuine, not sour grapes or envy, from what I've read and heard. As a European I find it an odd kind of set up, but it seems to occupy a lot of people's attention within the US, though why that is isn't something I've troubled to look into. I personally don't see the point of it at all, but I have the same view of honours and awards and titles and such over here anyway.

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  • pianozach
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    Originally posted by Ash Armstrong View Post

    He has expressed his dislike of the Hall of Fame, both as an idea and in practice, on several occasions.
    The last time I saw him was touring with Joe Jackson about 15 years ago, along with a New York avant-garde electric string quartet called Ethel. Both Joe and Todd spoke high praise of Leicester De Montfort Hall's Fazioli grand piano... The show's climax was all of them jamming While My Guitar Gently Weeps. I think there's a live album been released of the tour.
    Saw Utopia at Knebworth in 1979 supporting Led Zeppelin, and Todd at The Venue in London on several occasions, as well as various places on his 1982 solo tour.
    Todd and the RRHOF . . .

    Like many artists that were unjustly excluded for so long, while cr*p bands got in ahead, well, they became "disenchanted" with the whole concept of the RRHOF.

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  • Soundwaveseeker
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    I think he was supposed to put out a new album last year called 'Space Force', but haven't heard anything new about it. Another great Utopia album is that self-titled one from 1982 where they kinda look like The Cars. Catchy stuff all the way through. Came out as a 3-sided double album or actually album-and-a-half. Side three and four were the same! Of course on CD it's just a regular album. The Beatles one he did (Deface The Music) was clever but one I don't play too often. Rather listen to the actual Beatles. Back To The Bars is a great live album.

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  • Cast Iron Leader
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    Originally posted by Soundwaveseeker View Post
    Lots to love with mr. Rundgren - A Wizard A True Star and Todd are just off the wall magic. And yes, Healing - with the bonus Time Heals 45 that came with it - MAGIC. Dreamy stuff. He has his own sound which you can hear a mile away, the production, the harmonies. Magic, I tell you. Saw him a few times as well, solid stuff. And I enjoyed his set at the Yestival 2017 tour because it was a different pair up and added variety to the evening. One of the more recent albums from the 2000's I really like a lot is State. It's one of the more 'techno-y' ones but it's got that production, that glow.

    I'm really half 'n half with Todd/Utopia. Like them both, probably equally. That first Utopia album from 1974 equals Relayer in many ways. And 1977's RA is great. Of the more new wave ones, Adventures In Utopia is an excellent blend, as mentioned.
    I am totally on the same page Soundwaveseeker! Healing by Todd and those 3 Utopia albums are terrific!

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  • Ceasar’s Palace
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    Agree with a lot of what’s been said. Just two more observations.

    1. When the Utopia single Set Me Free came out, it was the first time I’d really noticed him. But I actually thought it was......... Billy Joel!

    2. He also was great ca 1990. The Want Of A Nail and I Love My Life are great Todd “gospels”.

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  • Soundwaveseeker
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    Lots to love with mr. Rundgren - A Wizard A True Star and Todd are just off the wall magic. And yes, Healing - with the bonus Time Heals 45 that came with it - MAGIC. Dreamy stuff. He has his own sound which you can hear a mile away, the production, the harmonies. Magic, I tell you. Saw him a few times as well, solid stuff. And I enjoyed his set at the Yestival 2017 tour because it was a different pair up and added variety to the evening. One of the more recent albums from the 2000's I really like a lot is State. It's one of the more 'techno-y' ones but it's got that production, that glow.

    I'm really half 'n half with Todd/Utopia. Like them both, probably equally. That first Utopia album from 1974 equals Relayer in many ways. And 1977's RA is great. Of the more new wave ones, Adventures In Utopia is an excellent blend, as mentioned.

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  • Ash Armstrong
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    Originally posted by carlmarx38 View Post
    Todd was really good on the 2017 Yestival tour. Played a lot of his newer techno-y stuff. I hope fans know he is now in the RRHOF......last year's induction didn't get much publicity, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think TR even showed up for the show.
    He has expressed his dislike of the Hall of Fame, both as an idea and in practice, on several occasions.
    The last time I saw him was touring with Joe Jackson about 15 years ago, along with a New York avant-garde electric string quartet called Ethel. Both Joe and Todd spoke high praise of Leicester De Montfort Hall's Fazioli grand piano... The show's climax was all of them jamming While My Guitar Gently Weeps. I think there's a live album been released of the tour.
    Saw Utopia at Knebworth in 1979 supporting Led Zeppelin, and Todd at The Venue in London on several occasions, as well as various places on his 1982 solo tour.

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  • carlmarx38
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    Originally posted by carlmarx38 View Post
    Todd was really good on the 2017 Yestival tour. Played a lot of his newer techno-y stuff. I hope fans know he is now in the RRHOF......last year's induction didn't get much publicity, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think TR even showed up for the show.



    here's a clip of Pattis Smith's Tribute played at last year's HOF ceremony
    Last edited by carlmarx38; 01-26-2022, 10:18 AM.

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  • carlmarx38
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    Todd was really good on the 2017 Yestival tour. Played a lot of his newer techno-y stuff. I hope fans know he is now in the RRHOF......last year's induction didn't get much publicity, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think TR even showed up for the show.

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  • PeterCologne
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    Originally posted by Ash Armstrong View Post

    Healing is a very important album for me personally, for lots of reasons, as is Todd.
    I prefer his solo work to that with Utopia, for the most part, though obviously there's a lot of cross-over.
    Oh yes, Healing, I like the fragility of that album.

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  • Ash Armstrong
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    Originally posted by PeterCologne View Post
    His most perfect album to me is Utopias Adventures in Utopia, a fancy mixed bag of arranged art-rock with ingrediants of pop, prog and new wave-layers. Every track has a different mix of colours. And the souped up harmony-vocals are almost as artful as the ones of Yes:

    Hermit Of Mink Hollow is another fine album as well. And yes, thanks for the link! I will watch the movie and listen to the album again...
    Healing is a very important album for me personally, for lots of reasons, as is Todd.
    I prefer his solo work to that with Utopia, for the most part, though obviously there's a lot of cross-over.

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  • Ash Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Soundwaveseeker View Post
    Ever Popular Tortured Artist Effect is one of my favorite Rundgren albums from the 80's and I love Utopia. But I've never seen that film, in fact I didn't know of its existence until your post! Is it a long-form video of several songs from the album (like Roger Waters Radio Kaos video EP for example)? I'll have to check it out if its on youtube. I remember a number of Utopia videos like 'Feet Don't Fail Me Now' where Todd & the boys were dressed up like giant garden bugs. Reminded me of the Cars as well. Thanks for the info!
    It's a 90 min biographical video fantasy, using songs from across his solo career to illustrate/punctuate/puncture his own pretensions, linked by an interview with an unknown interlocutor.
    Despite the title and that it came out about the same time (1984?), I don't think anything from that album appears at all. I stayed up till after 3.00am watching it again, and it got me into a major Todd frame of mind!

    Spinning Something/Anything at the moment!

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