Where does Supper's Ready rank against the Yes epics to you?

[soundchaser09]

Simple enough, what are your thoughts on the Foxtrot behemoth against the Yes masterpieces?

For me:

Awaken
Close to the Edge
Supper's Ready
Gates of Delirium
Ritual
Mirror to the Sky
The Revealing Science of God
Fly From Here
Endless Dream
The Remembering
Mind Drive
The Ancient
That That Is

[Mr. Holland]

Contrary to most proggers I don't rate Supper's Ready that high. It has some excellent separate movements, but those don't form a whole IMO. It barely makes my top 20 Genesis songs at no. 20.

So I would rate almost all Yes epics higher with the exception of The Remembering, The Ancient, Mind Drive and That, That. I also don't consider Mirror To The Sky an epic.

[Gtkgasman]

The only Yes song that you have listed that I would place it above is MTTS. Simply because I prefer to hear JA, and I love FFH suite.

This is not to say that I don’t like Suppers Ready, cause I do, and when I get in one of those “Gabriel classic Genesis moods” for a week, I’ll wear it out. 😉.

[Chrisklenox]

Apples and dump trucks really. I hear Supper's Ready more as a suite. Kind of like Fly from Here.

I am in Mr. Holland's boat here, though I don't know if it even cracks my top 20 Genesis tracks. I am not crazy about "prog" rock beyond Yes, Genesis, Crimson, and Pink Floyd if they qualify, so Supper's Ready having all of the prog epic hallmarks does not impress me particularly... I do find it moving when in the mood for it though. Chalk me up for mixed feelings I suppose. Haha

Awaken
The Revealing Science of God
Close to the Edge
Gates of Delirium
Ritual
The Remembering
The Ancient
The Gift of Love
Endless Dream
Mirror to The Sky
Mind Drive
Fly From Here
Supper's Ready
That That Is

The only thing in this list that I do not love is That That Is

[madbear]

Suppers Ready is great, but Genesis are so different to Yes the comparison seems like a strange one. i certainly prefer Topographic, Relayer and Close to the Edge over anything Genesis did, although i do like Selling England, Lamb Lies, Trespass and most of Trick of the Tail a lot, along with Suppers Ready. I wish I had seen the Lamb Lies tour, partly because i have a friend who has enever forgiven me for not agreeing to go with him...

[Chrisklenox]

The only Yes song that you have listed that I would place it above is MTTS. Simply because I prefer to hear JA, and I love FFH suite.

This is not to say that I don’t like Suppers Ready, cause I do, and when I get in one of those “Gabriel classic Genesis moods” for a week, I’ll wear it out. 😉.

We're on the same Genesis cycle it seems. They are my favorite band for a week once every 3 years or so. Not a diss. they absolutely hit the spot when I need it. It's just that I get my fill rather quickly for some reason.

[Gtkgasman]

We're on the same Genesis cycle it seems. They are my favorite band for a week once every 3 years or so. Not a diss. they absolutely hit the spot when I need it. It's just that I get my fill rather quickly for some reason.

Yeah. I agree. That’s how it is with me for most of all the other prog bands(I get immersed in an entire collection for week to a month), or any band/genre for that matter (like right now it’s Skynyrd. Lol. Next month might be ELP or Deep Purple, or Maiden, who knows. 😁).


But, Yes, is just understood as the fave and a go to at any time, and during those binges as well…….🥰.

[soundchaser09]

Genesis was my prog entry point, so I've always been a huge fan,

Tony Banks is a GOD

[Spiritual Architect]

Never heard Supper. Never heard any Genesis except Tail and Wind, the latter which I actually saw in concert. Maybe someday I will give those old albums a quick stream.

[Oldie on the Goldie]

I didn't particularly like Supper's Ready the first few times I listened to it. To me it sounded like a bunch of poorly connected individual songs all strung together. But then all of a sudden it clicked and made sense as a whole composition. Now I love it. I wouldn't compare it to Yes though - too different.

[michelforest]

Contrary to most proggers I don't rate Supper's Ready that high. It has some excellent separate movements, but those don't form a whole IMO. It barely makes my top 20 Genesis songs at no. 20.

To me, it's the whole song that makes the different parts come together. The song goes through different moods: pastoral (Lover's Leap), dark (How dare I...), comical (Willow Farm)... When it reaches the "Apocalypse in 9/8" part, the shift to a dark, dramatic mood is simply amazing and it leads to the climax of the song, when Gabriel sings "666 is no longer alone" which sends shivers down my spine every single f***ing time. Tony Banks has said that in his opinion, this is one of the very best moments in Genesis music, and I agree. And then, the song concludes in the best possible way, with the majestic finale. Without the variations of moods and tones, the song would not work so well.

[michelforest]

SR is my favorite "epic", I rank it above CTTE and Gates by a very, very tiny margin. These three songs are my favorite epics, no question. I think that, contrary to most people on this board, I am as much a Genesis fan as a Yes fan. I simply can't pick which band I like the most.

Maybe a little difference between SR and the other two is that I prefer the studio version to the live one. I never felt that Collins really "got" the song and he had a tendency to overdo it, whereas Gabriel really sings it with his soul. But the two Yes epics sound better live to me.

[michelforest]

Never heard Supper. Never heard any Genesis except Tail and Wind, the latter which I actually saw in concert. Maybe someday I will give those old albums a quick stream.

If you are about to discover the early Genesis album, I envy you! I wish I could listen to these all over again for the first time...

[Ash Armstrong]

This Wikipedia entry reproduces Gabriel's 1972/3 Foxtrot Tour programme notes regarding Supper's Ready.
I think the piece stands on its own just fine, and trying to insert it into some kind of hierarchical list of long-form excellence, by which such disparate pieces by this or that artist can be set against each other is anti-musical.

[Ceasar’s Palace]

Don't like it. Don't like any Genesis epics. Don't like any non-Yes epics.
Wait, that's not true. I like Tull's Baker Street Muse. And Oldfield's Ommadawn. And that's about it. I'm not counting Floyd's Shine On You Crazy Diamond as it's in two seperate parts.