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  • New PG single released today

    In NZ and Oz first. Will report when drops.

    Called "Panopticon" from new album i/o

    Openin' line

    "In the air the smoke cloud takes its form"

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  • #2
    Thoughts on progears and other sites is that title and theme is a Forcault reference. Simply put that the design of Bentham's gaols where one guard in a central position can oversee every cell. True or not. The prisoners will think they are bein' observed always so modify behaviour accordingly. Think an omnipresent God or the city-state of Singapore. The threat of violence was not as powerful as the idea of constant surveillance for social control.

    Now Gabriel has said his idea of the song was like minded people around the globe linkin' up. More positive spin. So will wait and see.

    When I was at art school in the eighties. Forcault was the big Kahuna in art theory. Lecturers were in thrall to his post-modern ideas. I preferred readin' Roland Barthes. Funnier. Some esoteric subjects. Also some everyday subjects. Made you look at culture differently.

    NB some confusion wether its spelt panopticon or panopticom or ????
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    • #3
      OK. Listenin' to Panopticom (Bright Side Mix).
      Mid tempo song with catchy chorus. Some minor key passages. Picks up towards the end. Atmospheric. Levin on bass. Eno on synths.

      Sadly for Pete. It seems the world is embracin' another new song today. Shania Twain's Giddy Up. Tis a bangerπŸ˜‰πŸ˜†πŸ˜
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      • #4
        Because I was a lit major I took a seminar my senior year of college in Literary Theory/Criticism, and then my grad school profs were impressed with me because no one else in my MFA group had done so. So we read Derrida, Foucault, Barthes, Terry Eagleton, Stanley Fish, Harold Bloom, John Berger (for the third time in my college career, he was a loadstone of cultural theory in the '80s) and a few others.

        I think Barthes possessed more humor than Foucault, but overall I feel like the way Foucault interrogated so many systems and structures was fairly revolutionary.
        my labor of love (and obsessive research)


        • #5
          Well done if you could wrap your head around Forcault. Imagine. I was a humble furniture design student tryin' to come to terms with masterin' a dovetail joint. Never could. So for an one hour a week we all went to Art Theory to bathe in the glow of post-modern French theorists and philosophers.

          Liked Barthes because he would deconstruct TV shows or professional wrestlin'. That was excitin' and illuminatin'. Lowly pop culture discussed with ernest gravitas. Of course he gave the world The Death of the Author which has stood the test of time. And the myth of the tortured genius. Loved Warhol. There is no depth. Just surface. Just more commodities to sell to a consumerist culture.

          And then there was Baudrillard and the Simulcrum. He believed the USA did not truly exist. Was a simulation. Hahhahahaah. They were all shit-stirrers as only the French can be. Wonder where these cats would have stood in regards to the metaverse?

          Anyway. Life goes on or appears to....
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          • #6
            OK. After 4 listens. It's a solid, moody song. Catchy chorus. Can hear all the kids sing"panopticom". Not really. Don't know wether its Levin's presence but I got a Union vibe. Minimal moody synths. Bass. Percussion. Bigger Gabriel devotees will probly have a better, more insightful take.

            It's no Sledgehammer earworm or even Spank the Monkey wild πŸ˜‰ but more attuned to recent Tears for Fears. Moody. Dramatic. A bit dark. Then upliftin'.
            Lean modernist pop-prog. With something to say. Modern life. Humans. Technology.


            • #7
              Listening now, it is a smart step back to the 80's, catchy melody, nice vocals and a good change in tempo. Good one Pete!


              • #8

                It's live in the eastern time zone of the United States of America now.

                It sounds like it's the same situation we had with the Yes singles from The Quest where it became accessible to people time zone by time zone across the globe at midnight on the designated release day for each song. If that's the case, it should be available in the US Central timezone as well, with Mountain time to come in 37 minutes, and then Pacific time in 1 hour 37 minutes.

                I've only listened to the song once so far, and that was while typing this, so I have no real thoughts on the song yet, but it's certainly nothing that would dissuade me from buying a download of the album when it is released. Definitely not shockingly bad or anything of that nature. Seems solid, but I really need to give it a few listens (More than that, really) to tell whether it's just okay (No small accomplishment for an artist at Gabriel's age/career stage), good, or great.
                "A lot of the heavier conversations I was having with Chris toward the end were about his desire for this thing to go forward. He kept reiterating that to me. [...] He kept telling me, 'No matter what happens, Yes needs to continue moving forward and make great music. So promise me that that's something you want to do.'. And I have to keep making music. It's just what I do. [...] I'm a fan of the band and I want to see it thrive and that means new music." -Billy Sherwood


                • #9
                  It does grow. Gettin' some internet heat for bein' too optimistic. JFC!!! Gabriel has some connection with a group called Witness. From the 80's. Yes. There is more immediate social media happenin' all a round. You can find out things. Am currently readin' a Paul Thoreaux travel book. Back in the day you had to rely on intrepid travellers what the wider world was like. Richard Burton. No. Not that one. The one who disguised himself to do the Haj. Mecca. Got out alive and wrote about it. So Pete is onto somethin'. Not anymore. With energy, you can find what is happenin' politically in every country on earth. In real time. Even North Korea. My father in law can actually tell you how corrupt every state in India is from a scale of one to ten.

                  5th listen. Good strong song. Album track. Moody. Hope he does a video. Could be hard hittin'. Main melody? Good. Main weapon? Acoustic guitar. Don't hear much electric guitar. All instrumentation serves the song. Expect him to be interviewed by Stephen Colbert and to perform the song live.

                  Finishes strongly. Great chorus. Synths are moody and understated. Pop- prog not to be embarrassed to enjoy in front of your adult children.

                  PS just googled Witness . Org. From '91. Helpin' citizens document injustice. Well hope Petey and his mates are lobbyin' the US government to drop espionage charges on Julian Assange. A publisher. Exactly the same as the Guardian. Who published the same material. PM Anthony Albanese, our centre left leader has been quietly engagin' with the Biden govt. to seek his release.

                  Watch this space. Esp. Now we have bought billions of new missile machines from Uncle Sam.
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                  • #10
                    Same day release. As of AEST 7 PM

                    Panopticom 2.7 k views on the tube

                    Giddy Up 240 k views on the tube

                    Never the twain shall meet πŸ˜‰

                    OK. Accordin' to his website, he'll release new songs each new moon. Reminds me of Jack Nicholson's joke in Chinatown. πŸ˜‰ The one he tells in the elevator to his buddies as the classy lady appears. About the Chinaman and his way of makin' love to his new wife. And the moon. Oh. Justforgetaboutit.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Gilly Goodness
                      OK. Listenin' to Panopticom (Bright Side Mix).
                      Mid tempo song with catchy chorus. Some minor key passages. Picks up towards the end. Atmospheric. Levin on bass. Eno on synths.

                      Sadly for Pete. It seems the world is embracin' another new song today. Shania Twain's Giddy Up. Tis a bangerπŸ˜‰πŸ˜†πŸ˜
                      Oke, that Bright Side mix was released three weeks ago, so what's the fuss now with "single released today" and in different time zones? Is the single drop today going to be a completely different mix, sounding different?

                      And why is the Bright Side mix called PanopticoM and the yellow and pink artwork (shown with a 31 second snippet on YouTube) says PanoticoN??

                      A little bit confused here.....
                      Last edited by Mr. Holland; 01-06-2023, 01:51 AM.


                      • #12
                        Have listened to the song once. My considered opinion is that it's OK. Why the change from Bentham's "Panopticon" to "Panopticom"? The main rhyme is with the word "on", so the change makes the rhyme less fitting.

                        (I work at UCL. We keep Bentham's body in a case in the student centre.)
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                        • #13
                          It sounds like it was all played on a laptop, apart from some acoustic rhythm guitar. All probably perfectly tuned and finessed to the nth degree, nothing organic allowed to persist.
                          I think back to the drum sound and the guitars on 'Melt', then I come back to Panopticon, and my interest dissipates like an exhalation.

                          Sometimes the lights all shining on me, other times I can barely see.
                          Lately it occurs to me what a long strange trip it’s been.


                          • #14
                            The new song was released on the first full moon of this year and apparently the plan is to release a song from the new album every coming full moon and each song will be accompanied by a piece of art.

                            Peter Gabriel's i/o features Brian Eno and is the groundbreaking singer-songwriter's first studio album of new material since 2002's Up


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mr. Holland
                              The new song was released on the first full moon of this year and apparently the plan is to release a song from the new album every coming full moon and each song will be accompanied by a piece of art.

                              That is bonkers. I approve.