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    Ranking the Yes and Genesis Albums of the 1980s together

    These two bands have always been my at the top of my list. I thought a comparison of their more commercial 80s material was in order. Both bands released 4 albums in the decade if you include ABWH (which I certainly do); incidentally both bands released 8 albums in the 70s also which is interesting.

    Anyway I digress, I am guessing the Collins era Genesis material will not do well here but lets see, my personal list at the moment would be:

    1. Drama- 9/10
    2. 90125- 9/10
    3. Duke- 9/10
    4. Big Generator- 8/10
    5. Invisible Touch- 8/10
    6. Abacab- 7/10
    7. "Genesis"- 7/10
    8. ABWH- 7/10
    The Definitive YES Albums

    -The Yes Album-Fragile-Close to the Edge-Tales From Topographic Oceans-
    -Relayer-Going for the One-Drama-90125-Big Generator-Union-Talk-
    -The Ladder-Magnification-Fly From Here-The Quest-

    #2
    Drama
    90125
    Invisible Touch
    ABWH
    Big Generator

    I really don't like the rest of the Genesis 80s albums. It's not the Phil Collins influence that I don't like - A Trick Of The Tail is one of their best albums IMO. It's the absence of Hackett and the over-dominance of Banks's keyboards. Invisible Touch is when they stopped trying to be half a prog band and fully embraced becoming a superior pop act built around Collins' songwriting
    Last edited by ragtime; 03-03-2022, 01:55 PM.

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      #3
      ABWH by leaps and bounds.

      And the rest is much of a muchness, or less of a lessness, depending on which end of the sonic telescope you're looking through.

      Good name for a band, Sonic Telescope. A bit 60s psychedelia perhaps, but I'm all for that.
      Sometimes the lights all shining on me, other times I can barely see.
      Lately it occurs to me what a long strange trip it’s been.

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        #4
        Yes in the 80s was like four totally different entities despite the line-up continuation from 90125 (top ten Yes album IMO) and BG (bottom of the heap). 20th century schizoid men.

        Genesis were cool and calculating (despite the American Psycho connection). Those four albums are the pinnacle of progressive pop.

        Excuse me, I have a shower curtain to clean and a wall to wipe down...

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          #5
          Hmmm. Ok, let's go through both bands through the 80's.

          If we do it year by year:

          1980: Drama vs Duke: evenly matched, in fact Duke has been reassessed by the band and public in recent years and that current Genesis tour seemed to bring back a lot of Duke material. However, with Drama my favorite album, nostalgically I go for Drama.

          1981: Abacab vs ...well, Clasic Yes? Can't really match a studio effort of original tunes with a compilation, so Abacab.

          1982: Three Sides Live vs...no Yes activity.

          1983: 90125 vs Genesis (Shapes): 90125 by a hair. Strong throughout, though Shapes side one holds its own. But two sides vs one side, well. If Shapes side two were a little more cohesive, we may have had a tie.

          1984: both bands on tour

          1985: no releases

          1986: Invisible Touch vs.... GTR?

          1987: ...Big Generator: we'd have to match these two up despite being a year apart. So here we have a tie. Both totally 80's, big sound. But I can't put one over the other, I think it's a tie. If we cheated and went for GTR, I'd say GTR by a guitar string.

          1988: no, nothing to see here. Moving along...

          1989: ABWH vs....I dunno, Bankstatement?

          ranking them, I'll go:

          1) Drama
          2) Duke
          3) Abacab
          4) 90125
          5) Big Genertor
          6) Invisible Touch - though 5 and 6 could switch places at a moments notice.
          7) ABWH
          8) Genesis/Shapes - though on some days, I could switch 7 & 8 as well.

          Even tougher would be the match up of Yes & Genesis 70's albums. There would be way too many ties.

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            #6
            There's almost no post-Gabriel Genesis that I DON'T like, but I'm actually pretty unfamiliar with their albums, even though I'm pretty familiar with a lot of their SONGS. That said, Genesis/Shapes has some pretty odd sh!t on it.

            And I'm VERY fond of DRAMA, 90125, and ABWH. Big Generator is just OK.

            1) Drama
            2) 90125
            3) ABWH
            4) Duke
            5) Abacab
            6) Invisible Touch
            7) Big Generator
            8) Genesis/Shapes

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              #7
              Love the 80s albums from both Yes and Genesis:

              01) Drama
              02) Duke
              03) Invisible Touch
              04) Big Generator
              05) Genesis/Shapes
              06) 90125
              07) Abacab
              08) ABWH

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                #8
                Drama is the only one I will listen to. I'm afraid I want Gabriel in my Genesis (though I do like A Trick of the Tail), can't stand 90125 or Big Generator Yes and find ABWH tedious.

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                  #9
                  My Ranking:

                  1. Drama- 9/10
                  2. 90125- 7/10
                  3. Duke- 9/10
                  4. Big Generator- 8/10
                  5. Invisible Touch- 5/10
                  6. Abacab- 8/10
                  7. "Genesis"- 8/10
                  8. ABWH- 8/10

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pianozach View Post
                    That said, Genesis/Shapes has some pretty odd sh!t on it.
                    "But if you're sitting there beside her
                    And a bear comes in the room
                    And you keep on going 'cause you're unaware
                    Oo, then you know that you are there"


                    What's so odd about that ?

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                      #11
                      I'm doing a tier thingie again (because I find it a much more nuanced way of expressing my preferences (because they're mine and not yours).

                      10/10, would listen to forever: Big Generator, Duke
                      Mighty fine: 90125, Genesis (shapes)
                      Not bad, but not quite better: Invisible Touch
                      Meh: Drama, ABWH
                      I do not want this (mostly): Abacab
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by T.R. Brockbanks View Post

                        "But if you're sitting there beside her
                        And a bear comes in the room
                        And you keep on going 'cause you're unaware
                        Oo, then you know that you are there"


                        What's so odd about that ?
                        Personally, I love that Tony wrote a song about losing your virginity.
                        Rabin-esque
                        my labor of love (and obsessive research)
                        rabinesque.blogspot.com

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by luna65 View Post

                          Personally, I love that Tony wrote a song about losing your virginity.
                          Then Yes did Rhythm Of Love, and the rest is history!

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                            #14
                            Back in the day I would probably have put AWBH as my favourite and Duke was least favourite but that has turned on its head recently. if Duke didn’t have Please Don’t Ask and Alone Tonight it would be even higher on my list
                            So…
                            1)91025
                            2)Big Generator
                            3)Invisible Touch
                            4)Drama
                            5)Duke
                            6)Genesis Shapes
                            7)AWBH
                            8)Abacab

                            Actually all are great albums even though the last four have some dodgy tracks.
                            if you compare them to the 70s output from either band they are are step down. If you compare them to The Quest they are masterpieces.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Esthe View Post
                              Then Yes did Rhythm Of Love, and the rest is history!
                              And we didn't know if we were coming or going ... I actually love Silver Rainbow, and Genesis Side 2 in general, and Rhythm of Love too.

                              1) Duke
                              2) Drama
                              3) Abacab
                              4) Genesis
                              5) 90125
                              6) Invisible Touch
                              7) Big Generator
                              8) ABWH

                              Chronological, more or less.

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