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    #16
    I do admire Jon's spirit of adventure and experimental vision. I do think though that Yes brought the best of that out of him. From TYA to Relayer was such a magical time... Regarding R2D2 sounds, I think a lot of people had those sounds on the primitive 70's synths. It was no wonder of programming.... LOL

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      #17
      Originally posted by rabin105 View Post

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      i miss you how is life
      DANNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYY

      I miss you, too. I’m barely on Facebook anymore, but I’m here and on IG. Life is good, but challenging with my health and Geoff’s health. We’ll get by. It’s good to see you—I hope all is well witchoo!

      Memorare, O piissima Virgo Maria, non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia, tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia, esse derelictum. Ego tali animatus confidentia, ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro, ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto. Noli, Mater Verbi, verba mea despicere; sed audi propitia et exaudi. Amen.

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        #18
        Just like Tom Cruise is a high priest of Scientology, or just full of it at times, Jon Anderson as a human has reached the Eighth Dimension, or is just full of it at times.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Somis Sound View Post
          I do admire Jon's spirit of adventure and experimental vision. I do think though that Yes brought the best of that out of him.
          True to that.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Close to the Edge 72 View Post

            If there were a guy on here who wrote about Trevor as you have I would have said the same thing so I don't think that is very fair. But it is very 2022. There are plenty of people with many negative things to say about Jon and the rest of the band on the old and new Yesfans I've noticed. There is plenty I could say about the guys through exchanges I've had over the years. But since this is a site for Yesfans, I choose to keep them to myself. Many others criticize them. I choose not to not matter who I'm friendly with in the band. It's just easier that way for me. I respect them too much and I don't need to pile on when there are so many who do. Not directing that at you. It's just the way it is here.
            To me being a fan, fan-ship, is a lot rounder than just loving the music, people and performances. I respect them very much as well, and I certainly don't think that critism equals disrespect. I've invested my heart and soul into the band for 37 years now. It sort of feels like family and as with family it's not only love and sunshine all around. It's exactly because of that bond, that there is critism as well. It's because I care. And a fan forum IMO is for sharing feelings and the bond, that IMO means the love, the sunshine, as well as the critism.

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              #21


              I always love this clip where you see a young Jon, with his brother Tony singing lead with the Warriors

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                #22
                Originally posted by luna65 View Post
                Kate was ahead of her time...well, unless you ask Hugh Padgham.
                I'm intrigued, tell me more !

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                  #23
                  He was her engineer on The Dreaming, and he wasn't impressed. He thought she was trying too hard to be like Peter Gabriel; and in all fairness she did really admire PG and of course they are friends. To my mind, Padgham is the only one of his ilk who has been less than kind about her.
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mr. Holland View Post

                    To me being a fan, fan-ship, is a lot rounder than just loving the music, people and performances. I respect them very much as well, and I certainly don't think that critism equals disrespect. I've invested my heart and soul into the band for 37 years now. It sort of feels like family and as with family it's not only love and sunshine all around. It's exactly because of that bond, that there is critism as well. It's because I care. And a fan forum IMO is for sharing feelings and the bond, that IMO means the love, the sunshine, as well as the critism.
                    Mr. Holland, so much of the criticism has been mean and ugly, that even band members have had to come on here and defend themselves. Respectful criticism is fine, but since so much on here hasn't been over the years (counting the old site), I just choose to lay off. It's not that I have so many bad things to say, it's just that so many say horrible things, they don't need one more person piling on. Yes are people too and people are imperfect.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by luna65 View Post
                      Okay I get that, but you did directsomething at me.

                      And if you're wanting to say I'm "woke" - I'm not insulted by that. I'm an old woman and therefore 150% done with what I perceive to be sexist BS. However, if you'd really come for the guys the same way, okay fine. I will take your word for that. But you understand that there was no way for me to know before you said so.

                      But all that aside, I'm still confused as to why you're coming for me over that specific comment in this thread.

                      But I try to tone-police myself these days not to sound fangirly (even though I fully admit to being a fangirl, which is not the same as worshipping someone). I have my moments, sure, but I don't think I've been specifically even partially worshipful-sounding since, say, 2013. Besides which, we're in a brand-new space and I've definitely not been fangirly-sounding here. If you think I have, please, point it out to me because I'd like to know.
                      Trust me, I've said a few things over time and wasn't always sure who I was talking to, but many times it was to guys. I don't pick too many fights on social media anyway since there is no winning with people you may not really know. Besides, as has been stated many times here, this is supposed to be a site for fans. Yes, I'm friendly with Jon, and the criticism, even if someone thinks it's justified, is annoying, but I've gotten thick skin over the years. He has done so many nice things for me and for those I know that people don't know anything about. I guess I recall you saying a few things over time about Jon, who has been a punching bag on here by many. I don't recall specifics from you. Anyway, let's move on, and take it from here if that is ok...

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                        #26
                        I guess I recall you saying a few things over time about Jon, who has been a punching bag on here by many. I don't recall specifics from you.
                        YOU GUESS? YOU GUESS?!? Then why, dude, why? What did I do to deserve that bitchy remark? Have you confused me with someone else who offended you?

                        I get wanting to defend someone you have a relationship with - I have someone like that in my life too. Someone in the industry who has been publicly criticized and ridiculed and doesn't deserve it, IMO. But I also recognize that as a bias of sorts. So I get why you feel that way. If I've offended you in the past then I'm sorry but that specific comment in this thread? No, I'm not apologizing for that.

                        So again, let's be clear: I don't worship Trevor. I have had some interactions with him and he's been kind to me and I am a loyal fan to a point. But he's not infallible and even on my own blog dedicated to him I have said that. I have a bias...to a point. But I am also capable of discernment. I don't need to defend my identity as a fan of Trevor or of Yes to anybody. But as a cultural commentator I want to view works and situations with thoughtfulness. Fans can be nuanced and still be fans.
                        Last edited by luna65; 03-02-2022, 04:11 PM.
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Close to the Edge 72 View Post

                          Mr. Holland, so much of the criticism has been mean and ugly, that even band members have had to come on here and defend themselves. Respectful criticism is fine, but since so much on here hasn't been over the years (counting the old site), I just choose to lay off. It's not that I have so many bad things to say, it's just that so many say horrible things, they don't need one more person piling on. Yes are people too and people are imperfect.
                          Well, I really think you're making too much out of it. First off, I think the only member that came on the old Yesfans in the last 10 years or so was Geoff. And Geoff was by no means a stranger to being mean and ugly himself, considering some of his remarks about Jon Anderson, Rick Wakeman and Trevor Rabin for instance, or for instance in his blogs at the start of his second tenure with Yes in 2011 (Yuppets anyone?). Secondly, yes there have been unpleasant remarks here and there, but the vast majorityt of the critisim towards the band or its (ex)members over the years has been either level headed or tongue in cheek.

                          Concerning Jon specifically, I think Henry made a good observation here: https://www.thenewyesfans.com/forum/...=8429#post8429

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by luna65 View Post
                            He was her engineer on The Dreaming, and he wasn't impressed. He thought she was trying too hard to be like Peter Gabriel; and in all fairness she did really admire PG and of course they are friends. To my mind, Padgham is the only one of his ilk who has been less than kind about her.
                            Interesting. I wouldn't say she was trying to be like Peter, they just became interested in the Fairlight around the same time. There was definitely a bit of cross-pollination going on

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by T.R. Brockbanks View Post

                              Interesting. I wouldn't say she was trying to be like Peter, they just became interested in the Fairlight around the same time. There was definitely a bit of cross-pollination going on
                              With Geoff Downes right in the middle!
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                                #30
                                The Fairlight was also an integral part of The Art of Noise's creativity, Anne Dudley making extensive use of it then and after. I think the Synclavier pretty much superceded it as the sampling technology of choice from the mid-80s. It was used on 90125 and Big Generator. Frank Zappa of course is the composer most associated with it.
                                I've no doubt it's potential is dwarfed by what can be done on an ordinary smartphone now... For good or ill.
                                Sometimes the lights all shining on me, other times I can barely see.
                                Lately it occurs to me what a long strange trip it’s been.

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