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  • Ceasar’s Palace
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    I think the Paris sessions have the most potential.

    Richard, The Golden Age, In The Tower and You Can Be Saved I would very much like to hear in ‘proper’ remade verisons..

    Since none of these songs are particularly heavy rocking, I can imagine Jon Davison doing them justice.

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  • Ash Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Khatrooper View Post

    There are / were. See

    and page down a bit to see ‘Statistics’ on the left. Many unofficial radio / soundboard / pro-shot audio & video recordings you can download for free.
    (these shows were formerly on Remy’s site Yessongs.nl, donated by tapers & traders, yours truly among them).
    Physical media of these shows would be made yourself, or arrange a trade with someone.
    You should never pay for unofficial releases. No one except the thieves and Amazon make money from those (side bar - it amazes me that Amazon can sell bootlegs with impunity. Where are the Music Industry lawyers?)
    Only exception I would make for myself is I wanted a particular artifact, like those LPs discussed on another thread.
    Even so, the same data, often in much better sound quality, with correct song titles, notes on the performance and the source, are available for free from other fans.
    I'm well acquainted with Forgotten Yesterdays and the Dutch YesSongs site. I don't have the means of creating my own physical copies of bootlegs I download, and I've downloaded quite a number over the years, that I used to listen to on my phone while walking to and from work. Unfortunately I'm no longer working, having been made redundant in the summer.
    I've bought the Ohio Runaround and Veteran's Memorial CDs from Amazon, as well as Live at Glastonbury, and happily I'm not consumed with guilt for having done so.
    I've got around 40 Yes bootlegs on CD that I bought from a fellow fan around 20 years ago, again quite guilt-free.
    Having spent god only knows how much over the last nearly-50 years, buying the albums, rebuying the albums, and buying them yet again in several physical media formats, not to mention concert tickets, over-priced t-shirts and tour programmes, DVDs, and then BluRays, and assorted other merchandise, I've no compunction whatever at purchasing whatever archive live recordings become available from whichever retailer.

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  • bondegezou
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    Originally posted by Khatrooper View Post
    You should never pay for unofficial releases. No one except the thieves and Amazon make money from those (side bar - it amazes me that Amazon can sell bootlegs with impunity. Where are the Music Industry lawyers?)
    The music industry management representatives (rather than lawyers -- lawyers are expensive) do regularly contact Amazon to get these things taken down. But it's a game of whack-a-mole and Amazon hardly prioritise preventative action and suffer no cost from their slowness and laxness.

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  • wilsoib
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    Originally posted by Ash Armstrong View Post

    The only Jack Douglas I know and love.....
    https://youtu.be/el5O5HIf2TU
    Alf Ippititimus - that takes me back

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  • Khatrooper
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    Originally posted by Ash Armstrong View Post

    I'm surprised there haven't been more unofficial live releases, particularly from radio broadcasts, as well as official live stuff from whichever archive collection. Loads of Zappa FM broadcasts released, Grateful Dead, CSN (+Y), Deep Purple, et al., many of which I've bought on CD straight away.
    I should emphasise by 'release' I mean physical media, CDs, not downloads.
    ​​​There must have been a lot of FM broadcasts in US cities in the 70s? Not to mention the 1998 tour, Ladder Tour, Masterworks?
    Apart from the Union box, I've bought all the live Yes CD releases issued so far.
    Even if a live recording made for FM broadcast isn't owned by the band, would they be able to block its release? There seem to be a number of labels that deal solely in these kind of releases, maybe buying them from radio stations, I don't know how it works.
    There are / were. See

    and page down a bit to see ‘Statistics’ on the left. Many unofficial radio / soundboard / pro-shot audio & video recordings you can download for free.
    (these shows were formerly on Remy’s site Yessongs.nl, donated by tapers & traders, yours truly among them).
    Physical media of these shows would be made yourself, or arrange a trade with someone.
    You should never pay for unofficial releases. No one except the thieves and Amazon make money from those (side bar - it amazes me that Amazon can sell bootlegs with impunity. Where are the Music Industry lawyers?)
    Only exception I would make for myself is I wanted a particular artifact, like those LPs discussed on another thread.
    Even so, the same data, often in much better sound quality, with correct song titles, notes on the performance and the source, are available for free from other fans.
    Last edited by Khatrooper; 12-29-2021, 09:35 AM.

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  • Ash Armstrong
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    Originally posted by rabin105 View Post

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_D...ecord_producer)

    in the age of internet its amazing what you can learn
    My brain is already full.

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  • rabin105
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    Originally posted by Ash Armstrong View Post

    The only Jack Douglas I know and love.....
    https://youtu.be/el5O5HIf2TU
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_D...ecord_producer)

    in the age of internet its amazing what you can learn

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  • Ash Armstrong
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    Originally posted by bondegezou View Post

    There was talk of Douglas producing the band. It didn't happen. There were no sessions.
    The only Jack Douglas I know and love.....
    Last edited by Ash Armstrong; 12-29-2021, 04:32 AM.

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  • bondegezou
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    Originally posted by Ash Armstrong View Post
    Even if a live recording made for FM broadcast isn't owned by the band, would they be able to block its release? There seem to be a number of labels that deal solely in these kind of releases, maybe buying them from radio stations, I don't know how it works.
    While they were signed to Atlantic, everything they did belonged to Atlantic. However, the radio station doing the broadcast would also have rights in the recording. You need both Atlantic (now Warner) and the radio station to agree to a release. Shouldn't be that difficult.

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  • bondegezou
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    Originally posted by Soundwaveseeker View Post
    JACK DOUGLAS SESSIONS - I know nothing about this, what is this?
    There was talk of Douglas producing the band. It didn't happen. There were no sessions.

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  • bondegezou
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    Originally posted by rabin105 View Post
    Your site said it was happening.. I know Oliver said he did write some stuff with Jon and rewrote some of "dad's lines" on songs Jon was going to do with Rick... I am guessing that there are maybe 2-5 tracks of Anderson/Oliver Wakeman but Howe Squire and White probably passed....
    I don't believe anything happened with Douglas.

    Were the band members working on ideas in this period? Yes. But then they usually are.

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  • Soundwaveseeker
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    Another idea would be for a hybrid studio EP paired with some live cuts to make a full-length album which could be titled Keys To Ascension III. And the live cuts would be lesser played things from recent tours like Survival and Gates Of Delirium. Leave off Roundabout & Starship Trooper this time around. The last, like, four live albums end with those two very same songs, and I can't tell them apart. Is it really a selling point if only die-hard Yes fans are buying the album?

    ARW would be ideal, and Fragile(the song) should get an official release. I'm sure they could have slapped together something by now...

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  • Ash Armstrong
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    Originally posted by True View Post
    I'd be most interested in what ARW were working on - though I have read inconsistent reports on that. At one point ARW seemed to agree that they had some wonderful material which was coming together very well, later comments suggested they didn't get very far. And this is one set of band members who might still be able to come together and try to produce a record - as opposed tocleaining up older demos featuring Steve Howe and Chris Squire. I

    I would also be very interested in this early years box set if it ever comes out. Also, if they released an official live record from the Talk tour or Big Generator tour I would purchase those.
    I'm surprised there haven't been more unofficial live releases, particularly from radio broadcasts, as well as official live stuff from whichever archive collection. Loads of Zappa FM broadcasts released, Grateful Dead, CSN (+Y), Deep Purple, et al., many of which I've bought on CD straight away.
    I should emphasise by 'release' I mean physical media, CDs, not downloads.
    ​​​There must have been a lot of FM broadcasts in US cities in the 70s? Not to mention the 1998 tour, Ladder Tour, Masterworks?
    Apart from the Union box, I've bought all the live Yes CD releases issued so far.
    Even if a live recording made for FM broadcast isn't owned by the band, would they be able to block its release? There seem to be a number of labels that deal solely in these kind of releases, maybe buying them from radio stations, I don't know how it works.

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  • True
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    I'd be most interested in what ARW were working on - though I have read inconsistent reports on that. At one point ARW seemed to agree that they had some wonderful material which was coming together very well, later comments suggested they didn't get very far. And this is one set of band members who might still be able to come together and try to produce a record - as opposed tocleaining up older demos featuring Steve Howe and Chris Squire. I

    I would also be very interested in this early years box set if it ever comes out. Also, if they released an official live record from the Talk tour or Big Generator tour I would purchase those.

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  • Soundwaveseeker
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    Any lost album I would want, even if it was an EP or a bunch of one-off archive tracks that I can collect and make into a CD-r album. Let's see, what are the choices:

    PARIS DEMOS - released in parts, but it would be nice if they were collected up and polished up a bit and then released together. All it needs is some vox harmonies and for Steve to add some guitar. You know, Paris album wasn't really all that bad to me, it just wasn't done yet. The dish wasn't cooked thoroughly enough. None of the material song-wise was too horrible, though there were some lesser tracks like Flower Girl/Never Done Before. It probably needed an epic Awaken type album closer to add to the seven tracks already there.

    TOWNHOUSE SESSIONS - seems more like Drama-era stuff than Jon/Rick stuff, so hire Downes and Horn/Davison. Not sure they would want to revisit that era yet again, as they have both Fly From Here and Return Trip. But as Drama is my probably favorite album/era, Drama III is fine with me. Go Through This and Telephone Secrets need to be released somehow.

    1982 SESSIONS/CINEMA - seeing as Cinema became Yes quite late in the game, what the Cinema album would have been still intrigues me. Some of that's probably just Rabin solo demos, not sure. But I'd buy '90123' for sure.

    SAY GOODBYE/1989-90? - now this would interest me, but not sure what was lain down as Yes and what was Conspiracy. But are there any unheard tracks which didn't end up as Conspiracy etc? This would have been a cool, driving rock version of Yes in the Big Generator school of thought.

    ROYAL FAMILY/ROGER HODGESON - hmm, other than Walls, not sure what was even written. Might not be much to it in existence, but a Yes/Supertramp art-rock hybrid would have been interesting and pulled in two fan bases to hopefully maximum effect. I need to know more...

    FLY FROM HERE w/ DAVISON - not necessary, or if they really wanted to do it they could play it live as part of the album series.

    JACK DOUGLAS SESSIONS - I know nothing about this, what is this?

    HEAVEN & EARTH FOLLOWUP - certainly, especially this Horizons thing people keep talking about.

    Actually, an all new 29-minute EP with 5 new songs and maybe a remake of something like On The Silent Wings Of Freedom would be unexpected, but why not? A lot of modern prog people and neo-prog bands put out stop-gap EPs all the time. Time for Yes to try it out.

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