Q: Steve Howe has no "guitar heir"...Is Yes "done" after Steve's done?

[True]

Speaking of Rabin -and the original topic of this thread - Steve Howe had no "guitar heir" when Rabin joined the band, and the band was very successful due to the songwriting, playing and singing of the new guitarist. Of course, numerous other bands have had success when their famous guitarist had moved on: Yardbirds with Beck after Clapton, Deep Purple with Bolin & Morse after Blackmore, Megadeth with Hammett after Mustaine -there are others.
It's interesting that folks sometimes give a lot of thought to some person who had been in the Yes orbit in the past (Haun for example) - but there are countless guitarists who could play the Steve Howe parts very well. In the event Yes were looking for a new guitarist, its possible they could find one who not only plays, but sings and writes songs. But if Steve Howe were to leave the band, then there would be no one remaining who had been involved with either the classic 70's albums or the 80's albums, and then you'd have a Yes which would be several degrees from the Yes on those records.

[Soundwaveseeker]

It boggles my mind to realize that, instrumentally, the Marillion that recorded album #2, Fugazi, in 1984, is the same that just released AHBID, this year. Crazy. That helps, but they’ve also made choices, too, to foreground new material, take it out there and play it. And then beyond that, on any given night, you know they’ll play some (what passes for) hits, but which ones? Who knows! Maybe “Kayleigh”, but maybe “Neverland”.

(Parenthetically interesting that Fugazi, also my gateway album to the band, is the only album never touched by Steve Hogarth: no songs played in concert since, except for an instrumental version of “Jigsaw” when they needed a J song for an alphabetical Weekend theme night. Which but also, you’d kinda think would be the one Fugazi song H could maybe get behind, lyrically and vocally, but no such luck. I do wonder if any of the other band members would like to tear into “Assassing” or “Incubus” some night, but this is the price for band cohesion…)

Fugazi was the first one I got too, in 1988 just as Fish left. I didn't know it till well after Seasons End was out.

Jigsaw does sound like the one track from Fugazi which H could do well and the song isn't too far away from the vibe of other stuff like Splintering Heart or Berlin. I do believe they did Cinderella Search with Hogarth (acoustically?) which was a Fugazi-era B-side. Marillion are not obligated to play any Fish-era material. Nice when they do, but it's usually the same songs. I'm sure one or two Marillion members wouldn't mind pulling out some earlier stuff. They don't have to play it, but probably shouldn't ignore it either. But they have so much material for any given set. And pushing new stuff is a good move. I listened to An Hour B I D earlier today.

[Mr. Holland]

I’m biased in that Steve Hogarth is one of my favorite singers of all time where I think Fish is just OK. So Marillion sort of starts with Seasons End for me.

Pure singing I would agree. But damn, is Mr. Fish the storyteller. Both in his writing as well as in his vocal performance. With that said, after recently getting better and deeper acquaintaned with Hogarth Marillion my respect has rissen for Hogarth.

[Frumious B]

To me Marillion with Fish and Marillion with Hogarth are two different bands, that have little to nothing in common but the name.

I like creating career spanning concerts out of Live recordings for my own enjoyment. I have created one for Fish solo + Fish era Marillion and one for Hogarth era Marillion. For me the two don't mix together. And after being Marillion with Hogarth for 33 years now and with 15 studio albums under their belt I would be completely oké with it if Marillion never performed a Fish era song ever again.

I’m biased in that Steve Hogarth is one of my favorite singers of all time where I think Fish is just OK. So Marillion sort of starts with Seasons End for me.

[Frumious B]

Peter Gabriel and Tom Scholz are sort of my benchmarks for taking 10000 years between records, but Rabin is giving them a really good run.

[Frumious B]

I think Rabin has retired from touring, but I can’t imagine him not finishing whatever album(s) he is working on.

If rumors are to be believed we will get that new Peter Gabriel album first.

[Mr. Holland]

I think Rabin has retired from touring, but I can’t imagine him not finishing whatever album(s) he is working on.

Yeah? Can I remind you of the ARW album?😉😛

[Mr. Holland]

Why in the world would Rabin retire at 68 without putting out the solo album that he has been working on for years?

He was on the Outlanders album that was released at the end of last year. The song Rabin plays on, "Closer to the Sky", sounds great.

From a comment on youtube about the album:

"From what I researched, this is a great album that promises and with the collaboration of great music artists! Joe Satriani; Walter Giardino (Rata Blanca); Jennifer Batten (Michael Jackson); Steve Rothery (Marillion); Trevor Rabin (Yes); Al Di Meola; Mike Oldfield; Ron “Bumblefoot” Thal (Sons Of Apollo); Vernon Reid (Living Colour) and Marty Friedman. Tarja's voice is unique"

Well, why he would retire at 68? Because he can, financially speaking. He can live very comfortably without ever working again. Because he perhaps has no longer the motivation and lust for creating music. Because he finds other things in life taking priority, like family. Bill Bruford retired at 60.

Perhaps he is still working in his studio on that album. But I certainly don't see much urge from him to release something, to go public.

[JMKUSA]

I think Rabin has retired from touring, but I can’t imagine him not finishing whatever album(s) he is working on.

[yamishogun]

For the record; I don't think Rabin is working on it anymore. If anything I think Trevor has sort of silently retired.

Why in the world would Rabin retire at 68 without putting out the solo album that he has been working on for years?

He was on the Outlanders album that was released at the end of last year. The song Rabin plays on, "Closer to the Sky", sounds great.

From a comment on youtube about the album:

"From what I researched, this is a great album that promises and with the collaboration of great music artists! Joe Satriani; Walter Giardino (Rata Blanca); Jennifer Batten (Michael Jackson); Steve Rothery (Marillion); Trevor Rabin (Yes); Al Di Meola; Mike Oldfield; Ron “Bumblefoot” Thal (Sons Of Apollo); Vernon Reid (Living Colour) and Marty Friedman. Tarja's voice is unique"

[Mr. Holland]

What's doppelganger in Dutch Arno?

Dubbelganger. Not much difference there.

[Ash Armstrong]

Are… are you my doppelgänger… ?

What's doppelganger in Dutch Arno?

[Homemade Parachute]

To me Marillion with Fish and Marillion with Hogarth are two different bands, that have little to nothing in common but the name.

I like creating career spanning concerts out of Live recordings for my own enjoyment. I have created one for Fish solo + Fish era Marillion and one for Hogarth era Marillion. For me the two don't mix together. And after being Marillion with Hogarth for 33 years now and with 15 studio albums under their belt I would be completely oké with it if Marillion never performed a Fish era song ever again.

Are… are you my doppelgänger… ?

[Mr. Holland]

According to Henry's "Yes: Where Are They Now?" site, Rabin announced in 2014 that his vocal album would be out soon, whereas in April 2020 he said it was 60% finished and that he thought it would be released at the end of that year. I don't think many albums were released that year. Maybe he will release the album as a download without putting it on a CD or vinyl but there will be new music, dammit.

In terms of perfectionism and time to make an album, Trevor Rabin is the new Eric Johnson.

So if in 2014 he said it would be released soon and in 2020 he said 60% was done, how much was finished in 2014? Let's say 20%. That means he did the next 40% over 6 years. So by those maths, the album should be out in 2026.

For the record; I don't think Rabin is working on it anymore. If anything I think Trevor has sort of silently retired.

[Mr. Holland]

It boggles my mind to realize that, instrumentally, the Marillion that recorded album #2, Fugazi, in 1984, is the same that just released AHBID, this year. Crazy. That helps, but they’ve also made choices, too, to foreground new material, take it out there and play it. And then beyond that, on any given night, you know they’ll play some (what passes for) hits, but which ones? Who knows! Maybe “Kayleigh”, but maybe “Neverland”.

(Parenthetically interesting that Fugazi, also my gateway album to the band, is the only album never touched by Steve Hogarth: no songs played in concert since, except for an instrumental version of “Jigsaw” when they needed a J song for an alphabetical Weekend theme night. Which but also, you’d kinda think would be the one Fugazi song H could maybe get behind, lyrically and vocally, but no such luck. I do wonder if any of the other band members would like to tear into “Assassing” or “Incubus” some night, but this is the price for band cohesion…)

To me Marillion with Fish and Marillion with Hogarth are two different bands, that have little to nothing in common but the name.

I like creating career spanning concerts out of Live recordings for my own enjoyment. I have created one for Fish solo + Fish era Marillion and one for Hogarth era Marillion. For me the two don't mix together. And after being Marillion with Hogarth for 33 years now and with 15 studio albums under their belt I would be completely oké with it if Marillion never performed a Fish era song ever again.