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    Will we ever get an official release of a full 9012Live show?

    I succumbed to temptation and purchased the silver vinyl version of 9012Live the Solos. It is still a puzzling mini album all these years later. I guess the slightly extended CD that added two songs was a step in the right direction, but what I really want is as much of a full show as possible on an official release.

    To me this is such low hanging fruit - a live record would be the perfect accompaniment to the popular film and would be a nice way to celebrate their best selling album. I know there are probably good boots (please recommend what the best ones are!) but the Rabin era deserves more official live releases than the solos album and the handful of songs on the Word is Live . I guess if I'm shooting for the stars, I'd also want an official BG, and Talk tour release. but I suspect those are less appealing from a commercial standpoint.
    Last edited by WindOfChange; 12-22-2022, 09:47 AM.

    #2
    Howe controls Yes and Rabin seems to have little interest in the archives so I wouldn’t hold my breath. Fortunately there are plenty of great sounding boots on Forgotten Yesterdays from the 90125, Big Generator and Talk tours to fill the gaps where official live YesWest should be. I suppose that eventually “ Takeaway Records” or whatever might take the boots you can download for free and try to sell them to you in a fancy overwrought package.
    Last edited by Frumious B; 12-22-2022, 09:51 AM.
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      #3
      It seems so obvious, to release the soundtrack of the video as a standalone CD...but nothing about Yes ever seems to be easy. As I've said before, the window of opportunity for these releases is slowly closing, as the hardcore fans that want the archival stuff are getting older and dying off. Yet all we get are tantalizing comments about there being "plenty in the vaults," or an early years release is "coming soon," but nothing materializes.

      At the other end of the spectrum is King Crimson, which has released tons of stuff over the years. I don't expect Yes to put out that much...but it'd be nice if they could find some happy middle point.

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        #4
        Years ago I ripped a cd-r of the 9012Live DVD, I think it came out on DVD around 2005? The 1-disc CD-R contained:

        1) Intro
        2) Cinema
        3) Leave It
        4) Hold On
        5) I've Seen All Good People
        6) Changes
        7) Make It Easy
        8) Owner Of A Lonely Heart
        9) It Can Happen
        10) City Of Love
        11) Starship Trooper
        12) Roundabout (bonus track)
        13) Leave It - Hello Goodbye Mix (bonus track)

        also made a CD-R from the Yesyears and Word Is Live box sets into Live In Houston 1988:

        1) Rhythm Of Love
        2) Hold On
        3) Shoot High Aim Low
        4) Make It Easy/Owner Of A Lonely Heart
        5) Changes
        6) And You And I
        7) Heart Of The Sunrise
        8) Big Generator - remix (bonus track)

        I guess, other than various bootlegs, these will have to do for live Rabin-era live Yes albums. But it sure would be nice to get an archival release of some sort. Weird how one of the more popular Yes periods is so underrepresented with live releases. A Talk tour live album would be fine by me.

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          #5
          I don't think so, for various reasons.
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            #6
            Originally posted by luna65 View Post
            I don't think so, for various reasons.
            I was hoping that you would weigh in on this! Curious to know what the reasons are, but I suspect they are not meant to be shared. I know you discussed this topic at least once on your blog in 2016: Rabin-esque: "Music is magic"...making a case for curating YesWest (rabinesque.blogspot.com)

            You ended with "I may represent just one fan of many, but I hope someone with influence hears me, and attempts to redress this imbalance before it's too late."

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              #7
              I would certainly purchase an expanded release from the 90125 tour

              I imagine they probably filmed some of the songs that did not make it onto that DVD - I'd love to see an expanded video release

              What did they leave off? Hearts - Yours is no Disgrace - AYAI - Long Distance ?

              Did they do Heart of the Sunrise on that tour? I can't recall

              It would be great to have an official release of those tunes from that tour. I understand an expanded video is very unlikely, but I would not be shocked if someday Atlantic (or whatever label it's been assigned to by Atlantic) decides to put out an expanded audio collection including some of those tunes. The band probably would not even be consulted for any sort of blessing - the label would just make the call

              And I would buy it


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                #8
                Originally posted by True View Post
                I would certainly purchase an expanded release from the 90125 tour

                I imagine they probably filmed some of the songs that did not make it onto that DVD - I'd love to see an expanded video release

                What did they leave off? Hearts - Yours is no Disgrace - AYAI - Long Distance ?

                Did they do Heart of the Sunrise on that tour? I can't recall

                It would be great to have an official release of those tunes from that tour. I understand an expanded video is very unlikely, but I would not be shocked if someday Atlantic (or whatever label it's been assigned to by Atlantic) decides to put out an expanded audio collection including some of those tunes. The band probably would not even be consulted for any sort of blessing - the label would just make the call

                And I would buy it

                Heart Of The Sunrise wasn't performed on the 90125 tour to my knowledge, though they did play it on all the other Rabin era tours (BG, Union & Talk). As far as I recall, the 'old' songs performed on the 90125 tour were:

                Yours Is No Disgrace
                I've Seen All Good People
                Starship Trooper
                Roundabout
                Long Distance Runaround
                The Fish (Whitefish) with Tempus Fugit and Sound Chaser teasers
                And You And I
                Soon

                I think they may have performed Perpetual Change a few times then dropped it. I think there's a low-quality audio of that floating around. Any others?

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                  #9
                  Would be an instant purchase, but no, I don’t see it happening at this late date.

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                    #10
                    I'd love to see hear an MP3 download release of a full concert from the 90125 or Big Generator tours. VHS quality audio cleaned up in a studio by someone who knows the music would work (Trevor Rabin or Trevor Horn are sort of obvious choices, but might not be interested or might be too expensive. Billy Sherwood would probably be the person I'd call, to be honest- you know he can get it done well, quickly, on a budget, and with care for and knowledge of the source material.).

                    If they have to source it from several different tour stops, that's fine with me. That's how a lot of recent live Yes albums have been released. Just don't do the barely cleaned up bootleg thing.

                    A boxed set would be out of my price range, but a regular live album would be perfect.

                    I'll be honest, that 9012Live thing has never really seemed worth buying to me. It's like, oh great, everyone's solos. The solos for me are kind of part where you understand when you're in a seat that it gives some of the other musicians time for a breather and the audience a chance to chill and hear stuff like that they might not otherwise hear that might be technically or otherwise impressive in some way (To a point, anywhere, too much of it live, is also a tad annoying- a couple songs, okay), but an album of the stuff when there is no album of them playing the full band songs? Kind of a bizarre choice IMO.

                    I have copies of versions of the Another Town and One More Show (90125 tour, Milwaukee, WI) and A Strange Peculiar Breed (Big Generator tour- Austin, TX) bootlegs and they're good bootlegs, but they're really the only Yes bootlegs I've bothered tracking down and retaining, and it's because of this huge hole in the Yes live catalog. If they've got something that is of release quality or could be made into something of release quality with some studio magic, that'd be much better.

                    It'd also be cool to one day hear a Yes lineup do a full album tour with 90125 and/or Big Generator, or even a mix of selection of songs from that era that include ones that haven't been played live since the 80s along with the one that the band played post-Rabin at times, and to hear that, the way they've released albums like Topographic Drama. It's not a substitute for an actual release from an 80s concert, and it obviously isn't going to happen while Steve Howe is in the band, but it'd be a nice thing to have one day.
                    "A lot of the heavier conversations I was having with Chris toward the end were about his desire for this thing to go forward. He kept reiterating that to me. [...] He kept telling me, 'No matter what happens, Yes needs to continue moving forward and make great music. So promise me that that's something you want to do.'. And I have to keep making music. It's just what I do. [...] I'm a fan of the band and I want to see it thrive and that means new music." -Billy Sherwood

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                      #11
                      A YesWest live boxset with at least one show from each tour and whatever live footage is available.

                      Including the 90125 Live video without the "effects".

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by RelayerI View Post
                        A YesWest live boxset with at least one show from each tour and whatever live footage is available.

                        Including the 90125 Live video without the "effects".
                        The 2005 9012Live DVD has the video with and without the effects - you got to see the whole program with only the live footage if you wished. There was also bonus live Roundabout and some interviews.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by WindOfChange View Post

                          I was hoping that you would weigh in on this! Curious to know what the reasons are, but I suspect they are not meant to be shared. I know you discussed this topic at least once on your blog in 2016: Rabin-esque: "Music is magic"...making a case for curating YesWest (rabinesque.blogspot.com)

                          You ended with "I may represent just one fan of many, but I hope someone with influence hears me, and attempts to redress this imbalance before it's too late."
                          Awww, thanks for the shout-out! 💖

                          Yeah I mean, I think it's definitely worthy of archival care and consideration, just as much as any other era. But there are rights and politics associated with such a project (again, much like any other) and because there's not someone (*ahem*) who cares enough about the YesWest legacy to champion such things, that's probably the main reason there isn't anything out there which isn't kind of half-assed, with the exception of the 9012Live DVD release.
                          Rabin-esque
                          my labor of love (and obsessive research)
                          rabinesque.blogspot.com

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Soundwaveseeker View Post
                            Any others?
                            "Sweet Dreams" was performed once, at the 5th gig.
                            Rabin-esque
                            my labor of love (and obsessive research)
                            rabinesque.blogspot.com

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by luna65 View Post

                              "Sweet Dreams" was performed once, at the 5th gig.
                              Oh yes, Sweet Dreams! I think I heard a poor sound quality version of that too, live in 1984. I read a Rabin interview where he said Sweet Dreams was one of his favorite earlier Yes songs. A shame they didn't perform that more often, that would have been great.

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