An article in today's Guardian includes Yes: https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...-molly-hatchet
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I feel Yes is something of a special case as Steve may not be an original member but he's definitely part of the 'classic' lineup and the article does mention that so I see this more as the Axl led era of Guns N' Roses rather than a tribute band. Also, this started out as a reunion of 3/5 of the classic lineup and has continued after the sad passing of Chris and Alan so it is a bit different I feel. Plus, crucially for me, there's new music being put out (and it was listening to Mirror to the Sky that brought me back into the Yes fold and sold me on the current lineup).
I think sadly, with the passing of time this will only get more common. The Who's down to two original members and has been for years. The Stones sadly are now down to two as well (although Bill's back for the new record I believe). Indeed, I'm reminded of how many of my favourite bands/artists are no longer around due to people retiring or passing away. I think that's also made me more open to lineup changes. Whilst it obviously isn't the same, it's nice to know that Steve's still putting out great music and playing live and that the Yes name is still out there.👍 2 -
It's a great article and the writer is complimentary about Steve. I mean, to be fair, I wasn't enthusiastic about the band until I heard the new stuff. I feel any band with limited classic-era members is going to have to win people over.👍 2Comment
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There's also Tangerine Dream with no original members. Not only no original members, but the longest tenured member joined in 2005. That totally qualifies as a band with no original or classic members.Comment
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Less and less graceful endings, but more and more dribblings....
I have the utmost respect for bands like Led Zeppelin and Rush who once a magical member was gone they called it a day. So many bands that are way too derivative and like some bizarro version of the original. Makes me just shake my head. There's nothing wrong with paying tribute to the music, but call it what it is. Some people have no problem with this, and that'fine... The music should live on, but I'm not calling a Mazda Miata, a Porsche 911 Carrera GTS.Last edited by Somis Sound; 08-07-2023, 03:50 PM.👍 1Comment
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Less and less graceful endings, but more and more dribblings....
I have the utmost respect for bands like Led Zeppelin and Rush who once a magical member was gone they called it a day. So many bands that are way too derivative and like some bizarro version of the original. Makes me just shake my head. There's nothing wrong with paying tribute to the music, but call it what it is. Some people have no problem with this, and that'fine... The music should live on, but I'm not calling a Mazda Miata, a Porsche 911 Carrera GTS.Last edited by Mr. Holland; 08-08-2023, 08:49 AM.Comment
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And here we are again with Rock bands as a metaphor for the Ship of Theseus.
Does a ship which has had all of its original components replaced one by one remain the same ship?
It's a great thought experiment, with all sorts of examples that could sway you either way.
Yes is a perfect metaphor for both the Ship of Theseus AND it's corollary: "If some Man had kept the Old Planks as they were taken out, and by putting them afterward together in the same order, had again made a Ship of them, this, without doubt, had also been the same Numerical Ship with that which was at the beginnings and so there would have been two Ships Numerically the same . . . "
Is the new ship made with all the parts of the old ship basically the same ship as well?
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you ABWH and ARW. These two bands are made from the Old Planks of Yes, so are they now also Yes?👍 2Comment
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A shuffler 😉
I said this before but Freya Dean has painted a panorama called the Ship of Theseus. I would love a concept album about identity in the modern world. AI. Robots. LGBTQ+. Pan sexuality. It would be a ballsy move if the band featurin' Howe and Downes' replacements, did this. Imagine the outcry from the NoTonyO'Reilly/NoYES crowd? Hooley blinkin' Dooley. 😯😯😯
THE SHIP OF THESEUS
Freya has just had a baby and is back paintin' again. She named the child after Oisin, son of Finn McCool, Irish legendary hero. She is now deep into Irish mythology as is her dad. Intriguin', no?
Anyway back to Theseus who defeated the Minotaur and rescued the children of Athens. The moral of that story was to control your emotions and think clearly to win success. In other words...
PAUSE AND REFLECT. THE CAUSE AND EFFECT
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The Little river Band has no original members in it. In fact I don't think the current line up doesn't have any Australian in it as its exclusively a US Touring band- ironic given it was formed in Victoria, Australia by Australians ( with one Candian/italian) and named after a regional town- Little River!
Although the current lead singer and bassist Wayne Nelson has been with them since the late 70s early 1980s👍 1Comment
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It's all good with me, especially in the prog world because there was change from the beginning with those bands. They were going after it in different ways.
But there is a certain satisfying integrity to the bands that would not accept any change (Beatles Zep Rush) once the band was really established.
Aerosmith is really something and a miracle considering....and they did that short period with other members.
Hey it's all subjective, if you don't like it....Comment
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