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    Re: Ideal encore show-closer?

    Whatever you bloody well want to do, ta!
    "(Their current bassist looks like he's a Dungeon Master into ham radio & I love it)"
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    Re: Ideal encore show-closer?

    Quote Originally Posted by luna65 View Post
    Whatever you bloody well want to do, ta!
    Thanks!
    I'm not a great fan of Owner. I'd rather be listening to Perpetual Change or Siberian Khatru, but it doesn't seem appropriate to do so while Owner is being played live!

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    Re: Ideal encore show-closer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Susanne View Post
    I fail on all counts. :(

    So what should I be doing during Owner?
    Just let it all go.... let your feeling run wild like this guy...


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    Re: Ideal encore show-closer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Susanne View Post
    I'd rather be listening to Perpetual Change or Siberian Khatru, but it doesn't seem appropriate to do so while Owner is being played live!
    Not to mention you probably wouldn't be able to hear it, concerts being rather loud and all.
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    Re: Ideal encore show-closer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Susanne View Post
    Thanks!
    I'm not a great fan of Owner. I'd rather be listening to Perpetual Change or Siberian Khatru, but it doesn't seem appropriate to do so while Owner is being played live!
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    Re: Ideal encore show-closer?

    Quote Originally Posted by crotale2112 View Post
    seeing a tune brought down to it's lowest form of melancholy does not thrill me. FOR ME many times the better entertainment is not what's on the stage... I have seen Yes almost 100 times and believe me I have seen some sad moments on stage... much better to hang with the fans sometimes, and you can hear the music anyways.
    Well, I just loathe "Owner"- don't even mind the rest of 90125, I'd sit for most of that. Fans at shows, in my experience, are largely miserable to talk to. I met one decent guy before an Asia show in 2007; he didn't believe the 17-year-old in the family before him was the big fan, and quizzed me on the band and the members' previous work, but was very friendly. One more very enthusiastic guy at a Yes show in 2014 near St. Louis, countered by another annoying guy behind me who kept trying to 'educate' me and everyone else on the band, to the point that I finally just started insisting that Keys to Ascension wasn't a real album but rather an elaborate hoax by "that Russian guy that skulked around the stage for a couple of years" just so he'd get flustered and stop talking to me. Sold it with crazy eyes, very easy to make on my face. He glared at the back of my neck for the whole show.


    Last show, this year, in Elgin, IL, I brought along my brother (amateur bassist, saw Squire in 2011 with me and wanted to see Sherwood) and my mother (only modern musician she seems impressed by is Howe, otherwise will just talk about Segovia and- odd to me- John Denver). We met a drunk lunatic who kept groping himself and dancing as if he were at a hoedown in a backwoods holler, and a real-life 'No Jon (A), No Yes' guy who seemed intent on starting an argument with whoever would take the bait.

    The first guy was annoying; when they introduced Dylan Howe, he asked which drummer was him, nevermind the age difference and Alan's name on his kick drum. Ended up insisting that Dylan Howe was the keyboardist, and kept 'yee-haw'ing, tossing his little hat into the air. I really wanted someone to physically strike him- kept hoping he'd fall into another drunk, an angry one, and the couple of cops in the park would remove him. As it happened, he just kept asking "which song is this" and forgetting the answer after about twenty seconds.

    The second guy, noticing my mom (who is about 5-10 years younger than most of the old-guard band members), decided that she was the one to seek affirmation from or to start an argument with, I'm sure based on age. They agreed that Howe was great, but he kept trying to say that this wouldn't sound like Yes. She kept trying to tell him that I was the fan of the band, and she hadn't seen Yes since 1977 or really cared since 1972, so he should talk to me instead, but I kept trying to brush that off, because I'm argumentative and won't let go, so I'd end up making a memorable impression, if you know what I mean. He hung around for twenty minutes (nowhere near his seat- we were in ours) just trying to stir up the mud. He only left because my brother eventually laughed and said he sounded as stubborn and silly as some Metallica fans he'd met (I guess they argue over their bass players). Worth noting he was wearing a Metallica tour shirt under my extra Yes shirt when he said it, somewhat visible from the sweat.

    I've mostly encountered people who want to relive whatever else they remember happening from a bygone time period- purest nostalgia, which explains some of the setlists people constantly moan about on here, both YesO and YesF. Rarely have I met anyone who wanted to discuss the actual music. Then again, I'm not flush with cash, and I'm not paying for great seats, meet-n-greets, or VIP packages, either. I just try to get close enough to the FOH station, and usually the sound is a bit better, but that's the best I can do. It means drunks and scoundrels in the audience there, sometimes, especially the outdoor summer and some casino dates, which are most of the dates in this part of the country.

    Oh, and some advice from my missteps: If you meet a "No Jon" guy, don't necessarily point out with a smile when Davison hits and holds a high C. ("Going for the One"? I have relative pitch, not perfect, so it gets sort of risky to guess from memories after a few hours. ) Ticks some of 'em off pretty bad.

    There's no kinship to be found in that crowd for me. I'd love to be surprised and proven wrong sometime, but honestly it's more entertaining to see someone hear that sort of music for the first time. My roommate's girlfriend, for instance, was a trained opera singer, and based on my brief comments on classical music recommended Dream Theater to me (I don't like it much, already knew), saying some song structures reminded her of sonatas. She knew nothing of Yes, and it was very interesting indeed to watch her hear "Close to the Edge" for the first time after I clumsily tried to describe the band's sound.

    Sorry! Not trying to rain out any parades, but that's been my experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holland View Post
    Nah.....it's just the proggers who feel their image of serious progger would be damaged if they were caught dancing and singing along with a popular rock tune that gather at the bar. Now taking into account most serious proggers dancing skills it's just as well....
    Not my problem! I wore an Asia shirt to the 2011 Yes show, wore it right out to the merch booth during "Owner", too! I just hate that song- some of Anderson's worst lyrics this side of "Circus" and a dearth of deep sound for most of it. Play any other tracks off that album, and I'm fine. As to the other matter, I did once make the point to a friend that it's not that I lack a sense of beat or rhythm- I'll keep pace with all sorts of screwy time signatures and syncopation if you want to test me!- but that I am totally deficient in gross motor skills. I'll count or tap out the beat, but for goodness sake don't make me move my whole body!

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    Re: Ideal encore show-closer?

    Same here on that last bit. Head, feet and even fingers are okay. But trying to put that together with the stuff in between doesn't generally turn out well. Just walking is sufficiently confusing, sometimes!





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