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    Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    Now I need to stress my answer to both is a resounding no in terms of "credibility" even without Alan you still have Steve (guitarist of the 70's and since 1995) Geoff (keyboardist in 1980 and since 2011 and on 3 albums) Billy (involved in yes pretty much since 1989) and I would argue Jon Davison (singer since 2012 and has an album under his belt)


    But what do the rest of people think?

    And if we can avoid the "only jon Anderson can give anything crsibilty" argument I would appreciate that
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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    My personal opinion is : yes.
    With Moraz on- board, the band could stretch their Progressive muscle a bit more as well as bringing back his amazing skills for both current performance and future recording.
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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    No. To me the band is credible as it is. It would however be very nice to have Pat guesting on either a tour or album or both.
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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    I only perceive Patrick adding credibility to performing Relayer - whether in whole or in part - rather than to YesOff as an entity.
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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    Yes doesn't need Moraz in the band to be more "credible."




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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    No
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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    No, other than as a guest player on Relayer material.

    But adds no "credibility" beyond that -- and I also have to disagree with you that Geoff Downes, and especially Jon Davison, gives this band actual Yes credibility. Howe, no doubt. White, no doubt. Billy... a certain degree I guess.

    To support, I would give Trevor Horn the same degree of credibility if he were to come in and guest sing song songs from Drama. Just a time-capsule moment. Had Moraz played on 5, 3, or even 2 albums, maybe more. But for one album, I think it's a cameo type of role.

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holland View Post
    No. To me the band is credible as it is. It would however be very nice to have Pat guesting on either a tour or album or both.
    Exactly, it isn't about credibility

    Based on what I saw Monday and heard subsequently, credibility clearly isn't an issue - from both a performance and perception angle

    What it IS about is two bands laying claim to the brand and making sure that YesO is fresh, with a great angle to create big excitement for the 50th tour

    This IMO, would clearly trump anything ARW might try, and even if ARW did something special, YesO would still present themselves in a great light

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    Another cerebral thread, thanks.

    Credible to who? For many, the only thing YES could do to be more credible would be to have Jon A. back in the band. I believe the shows would suffer with Anderson back, wouldn't be as kick-ass, the charade on stage would continue and Jon=no happy YES only. Having YES and ARW is a win, win for themselves in the fans. You should be asking if bringing Moraz into ARW would bring them more credibility. I hear Pat is even faster than Rick now. ;-)

    Relayer only, as someone previously stated. Perhaps we could get some more ticket sales for those expecting to hear Knights in White Satin?

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    the charade on stage would continue
    Please explain what you mean there, looks like another potshot at Jon from here.
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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    Just about everyone on stage would be wearing fake smiles. Money does cause more people to smile though. :-)

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    The current band is credible enough. Having Patrick guest for a tour would be great (lead the Relayer material, Geoff leads Drama and recent material and possibly work out combined parts with Geoff for some songs), but I wouldn't boot Geoff for Patrick. I'd like Jon A. back, but would see if Jon D. could also stay to lighten the vocal load and/or strengthen the delivery. I don't expect the latter but having Patrick as a special or occasional guest would be fun.

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    but having Patrick as a special or occasional guest would be fun.[/QUOTE]

    Fun is a good thing.

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    The closest thing to a Yes lineup with strong ties to their most influential periods would include Howe, White, Anderson, Wakeman, and Rabin with Sherwood or some other bass player. It's a shame that's highly unlikely to happen given that these important members are all still alive and touring.

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1yesfan View Post
    No
    A few years ago Pat would play your home for $650.00

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by weams View Post
    A few years ago Pat would play your home for $650.00
    Your point?

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by RickH View Post
    The closest thing to a Yes lineup with strong ties to their most influential periods would include Howe, White, Anderson, Wakeman, and Rabin with Sherwood or some other bass player. It's a shame that's highly unlikely to happen given that these important members are all still alive and touring.

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    Yes doesn't need Moraz to be credible but if he did return to the band Anderson would drop Wakeman and Rabin in a moment.

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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    I thought Jon and Rick were solidified as far as a Yes-ish partnership was concerned. So you mean he'd choose playing in Yes with Patrick instead of Geoff over playing with Rick in whatever configuration they have?
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    Re: Would Pat Moraz add more credibility to the Current lineup and do they need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuv View Post
    Yes doesn't need Moraz to be credible but if he did return to the band Anderson would drop Wakeman and Rabin in a moment.
    No. He wouldn't.


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