Anderson, Wakeman and Rabin Working on New Album

[bondegezou]

What non-new stuff WOULD they play live?

Considering that Rabin and Wakeman never collaborated on any studio Yes album . . .

Indeed. This has always seemed to me a stumbling block. Why would Rabin want to return to playing Howe's parts on Yes songs Anderson/Wakeman were on, and why would Wakeman want to play on YesWest songs?

Henry

[Mr. Holland]

Indeed. This has always seemed to me a stumbling block. Why would Rabin want to return to playing Howe's parts on Yes songs Anderson/Wakeman were on, and why would Wakeman want to play on YesWest songs?

Henry

I can't answer the former, but to the latter: Wakeman has said more then once that in hinesight he would have loved to be involved in making 90125, so it seems that he just likes the music and therefore would want to play it.

[bondegezou]

I can't answer the former, but to the latter: Wakeman has said more then once that in hinesight he would have loved to be involved in making 90125, so it seems that he just likes the music and therefore would want to play it.

Has he? I'd missed that. He joked about "Owner of a Horse and Cart", but then he jokes about most things. He has been willing to play on numerous songs in the Anderson Wakeman set that he didn't originally.

But I still struggle to imagine that any YesWest song would benefit from added Wakeman.

Henry

[Mr. Holland]

Has he? I'd missed that. He joked about "Owner of a Horse and Cart", but then he jokes about most things. He has been willing to play on numerous songs in the Anderson Wakeman set that he didn't originally.

But I still struggle to imagine that any YesWest song would benefit from added Wakeman.

Henry

Well, I'm with you on that and would actually take it one step further: apart from being very good friends I don't see what Wakeman could contribute, keyboardwise, to a project, certainly a studio recording/album, that Rabin couldn't do (better) himself......

[Paul Allen]

I hope that this happens. I still put the odds at 50% at best. Rabin is busy. Anderson and Wakeman can be flakey. We will see. I think Rabin's involvement will make the project more cutting edge and interesting to be sure. I am not putting much value on the Something Else story.

[RelayerI]

Well, I'm with you on that and would actually take it one step further: apart from being very good friends I don't see what Wakeman could contribute, keyboardwise, to a project, certainly a studio recording/album, that Rabin couldn't do (better) himself......

I think that on any new music AND live versions of older Yeswest material we can expect more than the Rabin arrangements - on the shorter 'popsongs' a bit of a keyboard solo on some, and on any longer pieces a more thorough rearrangement.

No point having Wakeman there and burying him...

[luna65]

Something Else! are merely taking a quote from someone else's interview -- and adding a somewhat dubious headline. Go to the original at http://wzlx.cbslocal.com/2012/09/06/...abin-football/ for a bit more context.

Exactly; this is all fabricated just like the PROG article about Henry's interview with Trevor. I was inspired to rant about it on Rabin-esque.

[Orbert]

I always thought it was interesting that Rick took a synth solo at the end of "Owner of Lonely Heart" on the Union tour. It seemed to reinforce the blending/combining of the ABWH and YesWest factions, since Rick obviously didn't play on the original version. Yet at the same time seemed rather odd since "Owner" is pretty much the archetypical YesWest song. It was only later that I read about how both Trevor and Rick have said that they'd like to work together, so the Union tour was really their only chance to do something together. Until now, perhaps.

[bjlevine]

Trevor wanted Rick to play on Talk (which couldn't happen because of contractual obligations). I think that this could ultimately be a really nice project.

Let the talk about Union 2 commence!

[Punj Lizard]

Trevor wanted Rick to play on Talk (which couldn't happen because of contractual obligations). I think that this could ultimately be a really nice project.

Let the talk about Union 2 commence!

Union was IMHO a steaming turd, with only OYE slightly worse. Let's not commence talk of Union 2! Please!

[bondegezou]

Trevor wanted Rick to play on Talk (which couldn't happen because of contractual obligations). I think that this could ultimately be a really nice project.

Let the talk about Union 2 commence!

I thought they'd worked out the contractual issues re: Wakeman playing on Talk, but just didn't get the schedules to fit in the end...?

As for Union 2, given what Wakeman's said about Jonathan Elias in the past, I wonder what he thinks about Anderson making an album with him now!

Henry

[Punj Lizard]

In terms of any kind of Union happening what I'd be happy to see is ...

Yes (with JD) make a new album and tour in 2014;
AWR make an album and do a light (for Jon's sake) tour in 2014;
The tours are arranged such that at some point (or points) on the tour, the two meet up to play the talked-of residence shows that are less residencies than two or three nights in a few cities that combine shows by both acts and at which certain ex-members (Kaye, Sherwood, Horn, Moraz, David) turn up to guest.

[Sharp on Attack]

Union v.2 could be an opportunity to do it right this time.

[zenslinger]

I thought they'd worked out the contractual issues re: Wakeman playing on Talk, but just didn't get the schedules to fit in the end...?

Henry

It seems to me that it was originally said that all eight would record an album together. Once Howe dropped out, Bruford dropped out by default. My memory says they were waiting for Wakeman, but he could not make it for one reason or another. Whether he was ready to sign the Victory Records contract or not for the album or not, I don't know. But I remember Trevor saying that the long song on Talk and somewhat more classic-Yes direction was something that Victory wanted, so presumably they wanted Wakeman, too.

[Mr. Holland]

It seems to me that it was originally said that all eight would record an album together. Once Howe dropped out, Bruford dropped out by default. My memory says they were waiting for Wakeman, but he could not make it for one reason or another. Whether he was ready to sign the Victory Records contract or not for the album or not, I don't know. But I remember Trevor saying that the long song on Talk and somewhat more classic-Yes direction was something that Victory wanted, so presumably they wanted Wakeman, too.

I heard it the other way around and I even think Bruford mentioned it somewhere in an interview some years ago; Howe, Bruford and Wakeman were dropped because Victory wanted the 90125 line-up, thinking it had more commercial potential.

[Sharp on Attack]

If they toured, I guess they would play most of their album, and then they could do some of the quieter Talk songs (Walls ? Endless dream excerpt ?), surely Owner and possibly Hearts from 90125, why not Final Eyes and Holy Lamb too ? And Jon and Rick could have a duet moment to play what they've been doing as a duet. Trevor could have his solo spot too to play a guitar instrumental and a duet with Jon...I'm sure Rick would be more accomodating than Trevor as to what period music they play.

[zenslinger]

I heard it the other way around and I even think Bruford mentioned it somewhere in an interview some years ago; Howe, Bruford and Wakeman were dropped because Victory wanted the 90125 line-up, thinking it had more commercial potential.

He did say that, but I think it's a condensing of the events. I'm pretty sure a Notes from the Edge interview from the period, from Alan or Chris, would show that there definitely was an expectation of a six-man Yes at one point.

[zenslinger]

Or, rather, I think the interview (probably with Alan) said they had begun recording and were trying to find a time for Wakeman to come in and record parts. What that has to do with Victory, I'm not sure.

[Mind Driver]

Union v.2 could be an opportunity to do it right this time.

If they toured, I guess they would play most of their album, and then they could do some of the quieter Talk songs (Walls ? Endless dream excerpt ?), surely Owner and possibly Hearts from 90125, why not Final Eyes and Holy Lamb too ? And Jon and Rick could have a duet moment to play what they've been doing as a duet. Trevor could have his solo spot too to play a guitar instrumental and a duet with Jon...I'm sure Rick would be more accomodating than Trevor as to what period music they play.

We disagree in one thread, and on these two points we totally agree.

Did someone hijack your user name?

[Sharp on Attack]

No, it's always me...