Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album?

06-10-2002

Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album? The reason I am asking is that I have read that the Yes album Drama is not considered a real Yes album by Jon Anderson because he is not on it. I guess this is a matter of opinion and it doesn't really matter but the reason I ask is that I really love the Emerson Lake and Powell album!

I think the keyboards on "Touch and Go" are really great and I like "The Score." And my favorite song on the album is "Mars the Bringer of War," which is an extended piece in true progressive style, that is a reinterpretation from Gustav Holst's "The Planets."

Does anyone else like this album?

Martin Riley · 06-10-2002

I'd say it was OK to class it as an ELP album. Carl Palmer - great drummer that he is - was never a major creative force in the band so on that score(pardon the pun) I think we can say it is. Certainly it's more ELP than 3 were.

Joedude · 06-10-2002

I think it's a great ELP album. Besides, it still can be condensed to the initials ELP anyway.

I really liked Mars too, The Villager. My favorite though is still Learning To Fly. In my opinion, this album is also pretty progressive for anything that was made in the 80's.

"Searching for sanity, to break the force of gravity"

prem895 · 07-02-2002

It's not in the top 5 but YES it is a credible ELP work

Scooty · 07-02-2006

I love this album!!!

And, yes, it is a real ELP album...

Those who have seen the tour would know...

plodder · 07-02-2006

Absolutely. It sits there proudly amongst all my ELP discs.(As does 3)

Scooty · 07-02-2006

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Originally Posted by plodder

Absolutely. It sits there proudly amongst all my ELP discs.(As does 3)

Oh Man

3 has some excellent moments!!

Talkin' Bout and Desde La Vida rock!!!

I wish I would have known about the club tour 3 did..I would have gone...years before I had internet!!

Buglunch · 07-02-2006

Emo played "Touch and Go" solo on Letterman after album was released.

Bought the tape late 80s and learned that cut, still cannot find peoples to back it up.

Listen to Holst first, THEN King Crimson In the Wake of Poseidon THEN ELPowell.
( and the black Jeff Beck album with Train Train, same Cozy, he be dead now, waaaaa )
I chuck the CD in with ELP but it is different, same with 3, sure would LOVE to do Desde onstage.

Yesgalaxy · 07-02-2006

Of course its an ELP album, If Carl Palmer playes tracks from it on his current tour, I think it qualifies.

umgekehrt · 07-02-2006

Is Love Beach a "real" ELP album? Now that's a thread material!

Yesgalaxy · 07-02-2006

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Originally Posted by umgekehrt

Is Love Beach a "real" ELP album? Now that's a thread material!

Oh Carl admits this right up front, but there are still a couple of tracks worth playing.

plodder · 07-02-2006

"I gave you all I could give, it was for you that I lived"

What great lyrics. I really like "For You" off Love Beach. I play it often.

Sweet Dreams · 07-02-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Riley

I'd say it was OK to class it as an ELP album. Carl Palmer - great drummer that he is - was never a major creative force in the band so on that score(pardon the pun) I think we can say it is. Certainly it's more ELP than 3 were.

Do me a favour !!! never a major creative force .

Show me a better drummer and I'll sleep out. Carl palmer was and still is the best drummer ever.......never seen any one hit the drums so hard and his speed is....well not possible. Beggars belief.

No one comes near this guy IMO, even now at his age his solos are mind blowing.

Orbert · 07-02-2006

I love it when these ancient threads come back. I won't do it (got blasted on another forum one time for "necroposting") but I'm okay with others doing it, I guess. Four years!

Anyway, I vote Yes. I'll let others argue about Carl's contributions to ELP, but I hear Keith's keyboards and classical influences; Greg's bass, guitar, and voice; and Cozy's last name does start with a "P", so there you go. And I have it filed with my ELP discs as well.

Whitefish · 07-03-2006

You better believe it!

But it is Emerson, Lake & Powell!

A great band that lasted way too short. Glad and lucky that I saw them 5 times on that one and only tour!

podo · 07-03-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Villager

Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album? The reason I am asking is that I have read that the Yes album Drama is not considered a real Yes album by Jon Anderson because he is not on it. I guess this is a matter of opinion and it doesn't really matter but the reason I ask is that I really love the Emerson Lake and Powell album!

I think the keyboards on "Touch and Go" are really great and I like "The Score." And my favorite song on the album is "Mars the Bringer of War," which is an extended piece in true progressive style, that is a reinterpretation from Gustav Holst's "The Planets."

Does anyone else like this album?

Yes it is an ELP album.. Even if its E, L, and Powell. I woulndt say its great, but its still an ELP album

Now, if what you say is true, and Anderson thinks that Drama isnt a true Yes album because he isnt on it, then perhaps Mr Anderson should pack up his ego and see Drama for what it is, a truely great YES album.. but thats another thread

heartofthesunrise · 07-04-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Villager

Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album? The reason I am asking is that I have read that the Yes album Drama is not considered a real Yes album by Jon Anderson because he is not on it. I guess this is a matter of opinion and it doesn't really matter but the reason I ask is that I really love the Emerson Lake and Powell album!

I think the keyboards on "Touch and Go" are really great and I like "The Score." And my favorite song on the album is "Mars the Bringer of War," which is an extended piece in true progressive style, that is a reinterpretation from Gustav Holst's "The Planets."

Does anyone else like this album?

It is most definitely an ELP album. How could it not be? You had your thoughtful songs, your radio-friendly songs, your jazzy numbers, your long instrumentals, your songs with long intros--this is a true keeper, one I cherished way back when. And this tour kicked serious booty! (as did the 3 tour--got Carl's sig on a T-shirt!)

Heathcliff · 07-04-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Villager

And my favorite song on the album is "Mars the Bringer of War," which is an extended piece in true progressive style, that is a reinterpretation from Gustav Holst's "The Planets."

Yes, that's my favorite on the album .I thought they did a really good job of it.

And I do consider it to be an ELP album.

cinderella · 07-04-2006

I loved that album and yes, I considered it an ELP album.

Cozy Powell was another of my favorite drummers.
Cozy's real name was Colin Flooks.

Good thing he changed it or they'd have been ELF. Yikes!

RIP Cozy. (1947-1998)

rahtreelimbs · 07-04-2006

Definitely an ELP album. Bands like to move on and if Palmer didn't want to why should the band not?

Cozy and Carl are apples and oranges. I saw that Emerson,Lake and Powell tour and Cozy was a force to be reckoned with!!!

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The Villager Posts: n/a	Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album? Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album? The reason I am asking is that I have read that the Yes album Drama is not considered a real Yes album by Jon Anderson because he is not on it. I guess this is a matter of opinion and it doesn't really matter but the reason I ask is that I really love the Emerson Lake and Powell album! I think the keyboards on "Touch and Go" are really great and I like "The Score." And my favorite song on the album is "Mars the Bringer of War," which is an extended piece in true progressive style, that is a reinterpretation from Gustav Holst's "The Planets." Does anyone else like this album?

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Buglunch YesGianting since 1970 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vancouver Island, Soviet Canuckistan. Age: 57 Posts: 3,789 Rep Power: 107374480	Re: Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album? Emo played "Touch and Go" solo on Letterman after album was released. Bought the tape late 80s and learned that cut, still cannot find peoples to back it up. Listen to Holst first, THEN King Crimson In the Wake of Poseidon THEN ELPowell. ( and the black Jeff Beck album with Train Train, same Cozy, he be dead now, waaaaa ) I chuck the CD in with ELP but it is different, same with 3, sure would LOVE to do Desde onstage.

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Martin Riley SR Mega Yesfan Join Date: May 2002 Location: Middlesbrough,England Age: 52 Posts: 11,419 Rep Power: 107374904	I'd say it was OK to class it as an ELP album. Carl Palmer - great drummer that he is - was never a major creative force in the band so on that score(pardon the pun) I think we can say it is. Certainly it's more ELP than 3 were.

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Joedude Nathan's daddy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Suburban Chicago Age: 46 Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 73231584	I think it's a great ELP album. Besides, it still can be condensed to the initials ELP anyway. I really liked Mars too, The Villager. My favorite though is still Learning To Fly. In my opinion, this album is also pretty progressive for anything that was made in the 80's. "Searching for sanity, to break the force of gravity"

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prem895 Cryovac My Head Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beijing, China Age: 48 Posts: 3,443 Rep Power: 107374505	It's not in the top 5 but YES it is a credible ELP work

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Orbert Recovering Musician Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago Age: 48 Posts: 2,349 Rep Power: 107374420	Re: Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album? I love it when these ancient threads come back. I won't do it (got blasted on another forum one time for "necroposting") but I'm okay with others doing it, I guess. Four years! Anyway, I vote Yes. I'll let others argue about Carl's contributions to ELP, but I hear Keith's keyboards and classical influences; Greg's bass, guitar, and voice; and Cozy's last name does start with a "P", so there you go. And I have it filed with my ELP discs as well. __________________

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Whitefish Insane Yesfan Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 1,115 Rep Power: 107374344	Re: Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album? You better believe it! But it is Emerson, Lake & Powell! A great band that lasted way too short. Glad and lucky that I saw them 5 times on that one and only tour!

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cinderella Princess Cin Join Date: May 2004 Location: ♥ Dazzled ♥ Posts: 58,316 Rep Power: 107377212	Re: Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album? I loved that album and yes, I considered it an ELP album. Cozy Powell was another of my favorite drummers. Cozy's real name was Colin Flooks. Good thing he changed it or they'd have been ELF. Yikes! RIP Cozy. (1947-1998) __________________ _ Waiting For Autumn These mouths can't speak... Will you be their voice?

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rahtreelimbs Yesfan Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 120 Rep Power: 23377008	Re: Is Emerson Lake and Powell a "real" ELP album? Definitely an ELP album. Bands like to move on and if Palmer didn't want to why should the band not? Cozy and Carl are apples and oranges. I saw that Emerson,Lake and Powell tour and Cozy was a force to be reckoned with!!! __________________ Drums, Guitars, whatever..........it all starts with a chainsaw!!!

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