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PO 03-09-2005 06:35 AM

What Yesshows SHOULD have been !!!
 
There is a note about Yesshows in a Discography of Yes recordings.

Here is what it said about Yesshows:

(The band could not decide between a triple-album including all of Tales From Topographic Oceans, The Gates Of Delirium & Awaken or
a double-album with some different tracks. A July 1979 release date was set, then canceled. Atlantic then took demo mixes and released this
double-album in Nov/Dec 1980.)

ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGH! ALL of Tales, Gates, and Awaken all set for a 3 disc Live LP and it gets cancelled. THIS is THE BIGGEST blunder Yes/Atlantic/management/whomever has ever made.

However, what recordings did the band intend to use? Now I think we know there are recordings of Tales that the band has (or Atlantic or ??).

Cough up those Tales recordings!!!! NOW !!!

PO 03-09-2005 06:39 AM

Re: What Yesshows SHOULD have been !!!
 
bondegezou listed the Discography in this thread:

http://www.yesfans.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19220

I'm still just FUMING over this.

PO 03-09-2005 05:20 PM

Re: What Yesshows SHOULD have been !!!
 
Well, I still think the live version of six epics, in one release, would have been better.

zenslinger 03-09-2005 06:54 PM

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I thought Chris chose the songs on Yesshows himself.

PO 03-09-2005 09:03 PM

Re: What Yesshows SHOULD have been !!!
 
That's not what that discography says.

Either way, I cringe every time I think about it. Imagine the CD set:

Disc 1:
The Revealing - live
The Remembering - live

Disc 2:
The Ancient - live
Ritual - live

Disc 3:
Gates of Delirium - live
Awaken - live.

ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGH !!!!

cinderella 03-09-2005 09:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paostby

ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGH!

ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGH !!!!




I think Paul needs a hug.

Earl Grey 03-09-2005 10:08 PM

Re: What Yesshows SHOULD have been !!!
 
Yessongs II: I think this would be perfect for a disc and a half of the new boxed-set...

Alas, Yessongs II should've, could've, almost, and no joy there...

What really bothered me about 'Yesshows' was how they edited 'Time & A Word' from the rest of the medley. The rest of the medley was SO amazing! Yipes, the things that could have been.

:yesbird:

Suntower Asking 03-10-2005 11:47 AM

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Ok so that basically would have been the greatest release ever! lets just hope the boxed set that is coming out does well enought to warrant a second one! They should actually make three boxed sets. One of shorter songs ,one of the ten minute stuff ,and one of 20 minute material.

Too bad i dont own a record company.

tardistraveler 03-10-2005 11:52 AM

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Wow - that WOULD be an amazing set!

Perhaps they can still be encouraged to "cough up" those Tales recordings! Those of us who experienced the magic of the complete Tales live KNOW how incredible it was! ;)

Vic Anderson 03-10-2005 12:03 PM

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i wonder if they still have the tapes for the tales
cuz if they would have had them they would have put at least revealing i think

PO 03-10-2005 04:36 PM

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On Yesshows, they included Ritual and Gates of Delirium from a Detroit show on the Solo's tour in 1976. Pat Moraz played keyboards. Ritual was like 28 minutes!

Oddly, Wakeman's participation was pretty much easy songs. Moraz's contribution was the epics (excellent job on Ritual).

betterdeadthanred 03-10-2005 07:28 PM

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About the version of Time and a Word on the as-is Yessongs, was it ever played straight into Going For the One, or does it just appear that way after it got removed from its right and proper spot in the medley?

Siberian Firebird 03-11-2005 04:56 PM

Re: What Yesshows SHOULD have been !!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by betterdeadthanred
About the version of Time and a Word on the as-is Yessongs, was it ever played straight into Going For the One, or does it just appear that way after it got removed from its right and proper spot in the medley?


The latter...as far as I know it never segued directly into GFTO, as it appears to on Yesshows. It suprised me to find this out, years after Yesshows came out...I thought that segue sounded pretty cool! TAAW was the first part of the big medley from the Tormato tour, that we'll finally hear in its entirety on the new box set. And a great medley it was: TAAW/Long Distance Runaround/The Fish/Perpetual Change/Soon.

CybrKhatru 03-11-2005 05:39 PM

Re: What Yesshows SHOULD have been !!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paostby
There is a note about Yesshows in a Discography of Yes recordings.

Here is what it said about Yesshows:

(The band could not decide between a triple-album including all of Tales From Topographic Oceans, The Gates Of Delirium & Awaken or
a double-album with some different tracks. A July 1979 release date was set, then canceled. Atlantic then took demo mixes and released this
double-album in Nov/Dec 1980.)

ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGH! ALL of Tales, Gates, and Awaken all set for a 3 disc Live LP and it gets cancelled. THIS is THE BIGGEST blunder Yes/Atlantic/management/whomever has ever made.

However, what recordings did the band intend to use? Now I think we know there are recordings of Tales that the band has (or Atlantic or ??).

Cough up those Tales recordings!!!! NOW !!!



It may be futile---but I still keep hoping for a revamped 2CD Yesshows, with polished mixes and at least the rest of Tales live---since the current Yesshows fits nicely on one CD, the 2nd CD COULD have the remaining 3 TFTO tracks, and maybe one or two other tunes.

Paul, you're right though---that was a serious botch, not putting the "epic" collection out!

---Matt

BrianD 03-11-2005 06:46 PM

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I like the idea of an epic collection. I can understand why they vetoed it in 1979 - another version of Tales at that time would not have been commercially popular. But there is no excuse now.

But I think they should consider going the whole hog - add another CD that includes CTTE (say a remastered Yessongs version), Endless Dream and Mind Drive (combine the two parts from 2004)

Earl Grey 03-11-2005 06:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD
...I think they should consider going the whole hog - add another CD that includes CTTE (say a remastered Yessongs version), Endless Dream and Mind Drive (combine the two parts from 2004)


I agree Brian. I imagine that the Live Box s going to be marketed to the long-time Yesheads, it's not the sort of thing most newbies would be interested in.

I think most of us don't mind paying a bit more for a HUGE, all-inclusive Live Boxed Set, full of booklets, photos, posters... Make it lavish, and don't worry about the price-tag so much.

I would personally thrill to a 10 volume set that spans YES's entire career, and in this instance, price isn't as much of an issue as content.

uRlIe:yesbird:

BrianD 03-11-2005 07:33 PM

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A Dream Live Box set would be spectacular.

The content - well we already know what could be included from the various boots and weeds - how many of them are releasable in reasonable quality is another matter.

I am sure most of us Yesheads would purchase a good quality Yes rarities live - possibly defined as any songs Yes have played on only one tour; or less than about 20 times give or take; or where the arrangement is significantly different to the original.

And as Earl says, we'd probably pay more than the usual price given our addiction.

PO 03-11-2005 08:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD
I like the idea of an epic collection. I can understand why they vetoed it in 1979 - another version of Tales at that time would not have been commercially popular...


Yesshows didn't sell well, either. That's what happens when you water things down. Perhaps the Epic Collection would have done the same, but more people would buy it now than Yesshows as it is. At least the Epic Collection had a theme. Yesshows was just a live album of various tracks.

Yes was still popular in 1979. They were still well known as a large act on the stage. No one (the crowd. Forget the critics) started complaining a lot about epics until later in the 80's and the Internet.

A Live Epic collection would have me with 3 copies. 1 LP, and probably 2 CD's (one being a Rhino remaster). 9 discs total.

As for the impending live collection, I doubt I will buy it. Too many obscurities and too many repeats.

tardistraveler 03-11-2005 09:17 PM

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I'd buy most anything LIVE they put out!

YepMan 03-12-2005 01:49 AM

Re: What Yesshows SHOULD have been !!!
 
Note to Atlantic/Rhino:

Release the originally-proposed version of Yesshows and I won't have to hurt this stuffed bunny. It's all up to you now.


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