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yessongs72

10-02-2003, 05:23 PM

I just want to know if everyone else reads this is as disappointed as I am. I can't believe that the group that I loved and respected for the last thirty-one years are releasing a documentary. I for one was pumped for a DVD of a show,from the Full Circle Tour. But now they are releasing this crap and expect us to buy it. Well, I for one will be saving my money,again I am very disappointed. I want to know how everyone else feels about this DVD,now? Here's the Official Release ;(.

news

October 2, 2003

YesSpeak DVD

October 2, 2003 - Classic Pictures is planning to release YesSpeak, a double DVD of the band filmed during the Full Circle Tour of Europe. It is scheduled to be issued in Europe on November 24, and in North America in January 2004.

The three hour film is an intimate and humorous observation into their music, their life on the road and their own personal views. The DVD shows footage from the worldwide Full Circle Tour as well as providing revealing interviews with all of the band members.

DVD Format:

Part One: Sacred Ground
Part Two: Full Circle
Part Three: There'll Always be a Yes
Part Four: Spotlight on Chris
Part Five: Spotlight on Jon
Part Six: Spotlight on Steve
Part Seven: Spotlight on Alan
Part Eight: Spotlight on Rick
Part Nine: On the Road
Part Ten: Yes Music

Extras to include:

The Making of the Movie Documentary
Audio Only Feature (150 min Set)
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Again,I can't believe that Yes is doing this to their fans and I hope that what I'm reading is a nightmare.

yarstruly

10-02-2003, 05:35 PM

I am actually looking forward to it. They have released 3 full concert DVDs in recent years: "Keys," "House of Yes," & "Symphonic"....They have not put out a full documentary since 91: YesYears. I think this is due.

yessongs72

10-02-2003, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by yarstruly
I am actually looking forward to it. They have released 3 full concert DVDs in recent years: "Keys," "House of Yes," & "Symphonic"....They have not put out a full documentary since 91: YesYears. I think this is due.

Maybe a documentary is due,as a second disk,IMHO that's what they should do. Disk 1 being a show,Disk 2 as a documentary,that way everyone can be pleased.This really stinks and is just a way that they are trying to make $$$ off us(the fans of music) and this one just might, bite them where it hurts. Geez, lol three hours of documentary,with footage,I won't be buying.

nightliner

10-02-2003, 07:10 PM

Granted, a full concert dvd would be better, but I'll buy it the day it comes out.

We as Yes fans are actually very lucky. There are a lot of Yes dvd's out. Rush is about to release their first concert dvd, Pink Floyd have none, Genesis has one...

Thoughtbecontact

10-02-2003, 07:17 PM

I see nothing wrong with this Yessongs. In fact, this is so much better than the so-called greatest hits package that my or may not have some new tracks added on. This is something that I would buy.

yessongs72

10-02-2003, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by nightliner
Granted, a full concert dvd would be better, but I'll buy it the day it comes out.

We as Yes fans are actually very lucky. There are a lot of Yes dvd's out. Rush is about to release their first concert dvd, Pink Floyd have none, Genesis has one...

Haha,and I'm so closed minded I don't like any if the mentioned groups.If we YES FANS are lucky then they should give a DVD show. But,I do have Fleetwood Mac,James Taylor,Simon& Garfuncle,and Gordan Lightfoot,so I guess I'm not that closed minded.My last rebutal,we know how I feel about this,atleast durring January I will have Carolina Basketball to watch!

BredYes

10-03-2003, 04:28 AM

I would love to have this DVD. A documentary should be great. I loved the Yesyears video and this should be a nice addition. Maybe the next DVD should be a live concert including material from a new album. So I disagree with you Yessongs72.

R'tanys

10-03-2003, 04:39 AM

I like documentaries and I love Yes, so I'm looking forward to this.
I really enjoyed YesYears, but that was a dozen years ago. I think stories of what the band has been up to since will be most interesting.

Mr. Holland

10-03-2003, 05:38 AM

I'm actually looking forward to this dvd. I have the Yesyears video and the only way I could be disapointed by the new dvd, is when they're telling the same things as they did on Yesyears. I'm hoping to get some inside info on all that has been happening to Yes 1992-2003, so I'm going to buy it, for sure!

Andersonic

10-03-2003, 05:53 AM

We as Yesfans are lucky that almost every year something new is released on DVD anyway and why judging something that you haven't seen yet? They are talking about a humerous observation and that would be something new, although the 'Dreamtime' piece on Yessymphonic was quite funny at times too. This reminds me of the time that The Ladder was slammed long before the music was heard, some people didn't like the title.
What are we talking about, come on please...

I too want to see what's been going on in the last few years and I would love to see the personal view on each member.

Maybe Jon will show the ladder from which he fell last december? ; )

And I understand that a Audio only set of 150 minutes is being included as well, this means a live CD??

BredYes, come to the YF meeting and be suprised what we will show on the video screen...

deelovesyes

10-03-2003, 07:02 AM

I can't wait!! I think it will be great to see.

Dee

BredYes

10-03-2003, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by Andersonic

BredYes, come to the YF meeting and be suprised what we will show on the video screen...

Andersonic, I am not sure I can come because I lost some of my "freedom" because of our little boy. He is doing well but I can't go out as much as I was used to and Eindhoven is not so close for me. I would love to go but I am not sure. What are you showing on the video screen???

Jonah

10-03-2003, 08:12 AM

I just hope that Jon Anderson does not participate in the humourous parts. He's SO unfunny !

It doesn't say how much is documentary or how much is music.
I hope it's more of the latter.

It's getting harder and more expensive each year to catch up with all Yes output. It's great that we can see so much Yes stuff, and maybe this will go some way to increasing their audience. Or will it be the die-hard fans shelling out for something not really that different ?

Yes have frustrated the hell out of me over the past couple of years but I will buy this DVD as it does sound interesting, even though the tour to which it refers actually put me off going to see the band ever again.

J

Simon B

10-03-2003, 08:32 AM

I'll buy it - it does say it includes concert footage and I was in Birmingham when they were recording some of that footage. I will have to have it just to see, maybe, there in the distance, a handbanging TOTAL MASS!

PS what's this about no Pink Floyd live video material? Have they not DVD'd up the Mission Bell/Dark Side of the Moon (in full) video - I copied it off theTV with a documentary on Sid Barrett too? I know there was a double CD of the gig, but did they seriously not release a video/DVD??

I can see a bright future in profiting from unreleased gems Genesis, Tull, Floyd, if only I had some cash hanging about....

Total Mass:bash: Is this how you headbang?

yesindeed

10-03-2003, 08:40 AM

have a concert dvd also. I focus on the music not on the artists... Having said that, I will likely buy it to support the band anyway.

Dantalion Rides Again

10-03-2003, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by yessongs72
This really stinks and is just a way that they are trying to make $$$ off us(the fans of music) and this one just might, bite them where it hurts. Geez, lol three hours of documentary,with footage,I won't be buying.

I think they should try and make money off us, don't you? Isn't that how they generate their income?

Seriously though, I don't see this as any more of a 'fan rip-off' than anything else they've ever done. This is gonna sound strange to some of you, but I might feel that way if they put out another live DVD. How many times do I have to buy live versions of "Starship Trooper" and "Roundabout"? I definately prefer to see something informative instead of something redundant.

You make a good point at any rate yessongs72 ~ they have put out a lot of products that don't seem to have material or purpose enough to substantiate them. When I heard "Ultimate Yes" was coming out I asked myself (cuz I was the only one there :D) "Didn't they just put out a friggin boxed set?? And weren't there about 5 other 'Best Of Yes' compilations already released??!?!?!!"

James Taylor just released his second Greatest Hits CD, and I am impressed that it contains zero repeats of the first zillion-selling James Taylor's Greatest Hits. It simply picks up where the last one left off. Too bad Yes doesn't do something similar (with their set list too!) and show the world some respect for their own later period music.

One more thought on this (and forgive me if I'm off topic here) but speaking of redundant/arguably-pointless releases ~ wouldn't we all really appreciate it if they put out a disc of JUST the 'new' tracks from the boxed set and the new studio stuff that's coming on Ultimate Yes? Sort of like they did with Keystudio, except you know, . . . maybe a few years sooner in proximity to their respective mammoth repackage releases?? I'd like In A Word, but I'd be much closer to actually buying it if it were only the rare & unreleased stuff. Would it really hurt sales of the redundant releases to release a disc that compiles only the new tracks for those of us who already have everything? Twice?

To attempt to get back on topic, I'd like to see Yesspeak. I wanna see why they think (see 'Part Three' on the track list) that years from now Yes can be the same band with a different band running the band. ;)

Andersonic

10-03-2003, 09:47 AM

Jon being not funny...well you may be surprized there Jonah...

BredYes, good that the little one is doing well, on the screen there is a very very good chance we can show the cut-down version of the Yes-Speak DVD, to be aired in the UK and Europe in November...I'll keep you informed when everything is 100% certain.

We are in negotiations with something else too regarding the DVD and if that goes ahead it would be very very special.

OzzieYes

10-03-2003, 09:50 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jonah
[B]I just hope that Jon Anderson does not participate in the humourous parts. He's SO unfunny !

I think just the opposite. Having seen him 3 times in 5 days on the recent tour of Oz I think he has a typical English sense of humour. he came across quiet "quick witted" and at time sontanious. But then I am bias because as soon as he opens his mouth if it is to sing or talk I just "melt".

Jonah

10-03-2003, 10:01 AM

Andersonic: I was referring to the original news item where it mentioned that there would be humourous stuff.
Sorry for the confusion :D

Jonah

10-03-2003, 10:03 AM

Andersonic: now I'm really confused! I'm sure your last post said something different last time I looked ??

ycantibu

10-03-2003, 05:41 PM

What time period will the documentary cover?

tardistraveler

10-03-2003, 07:02 PM

Well Yessongs, I would love to have a full concert video. But, this also sounds interesting, and I will probably buy it - since I'm interested in all things Yes.

Sonoacustico

10-03-2003, 09:42 PM

I believe anything they could release is worth, with a very simple restriction that the band does not understand very well (IMHO): DON'T RELEASE PREVIOUSLY RELEASED MATERIAL!!!!!!!!!!
I hope they focus on the 1992-present this time, if not, why to release YESYEARS on DVD? well, they seem to like to release previously released material, maybe they will want to release another compilation, or another studio boxset!!!!
Please GOD, give a few common sense to the band and management!

Greetings!

Claudio

Andersonic

10-04-2003, 05:46 AM

Jonah, I misread your first reply, I thought you were saying I was so unfunny...because of the ladder remark, the first time ever that I confuse Anderson for Andersonic, which in a way is funny...In the 'Animation' thread there's a picture that tells who's the real Anderson...

doctor_how

10-04-2003, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by Total Mass

PS what's this about no Pink Floyd live video material? Have they not DVD'd up the Mission Bell/Dark Side of the Moon (in full) video - I copied it off theTV with a documentary on Sid Barrett too? I know there was a double CD of the gig, but did they seriously not release a video/DVD??

There is going to be the Pink Floyd film Live At Pompeii: The Director's Cut to be released on DVD. It's actually already out in some countries (not USA!). There is also a DVD of the flim The Wall. A documentary on Dark Side of the Moon was just released on DVD, too. Any other releases you see on the internet or Ebay should be purchased with caution. The documentaries on Syd you've recorded is probably the one (of a few) that are being distributed by fans on VCD. The DSOTM and Division Bell show you must be talking about is probably PULSE, which is on VHS and Laserdisc, and a must-buy for any Floyd fan. I hope this helps.

nightliner

10-16-2003, 05:06 AM

I was just reading the latest description on Yesworld. Along with the 3 hour documentary, it also has a full concert in 5.1 and dts surround. You get the docu. as well as a dvd audio.

And, it says the European version (out long before the US) will be region 0. Which means if your US dvd player will convert Pal to NTSC (many do), we can get one without having to wait.

nightliner

10-16-2003, 05:11 AM

However, I just checked Amazon.UK website, and they say its region 2. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Bluetailfly

10-16-2003, 01:27 PM

I like the idea of a documentary. I also like the concert DVDs that they have done. The band has been playing in peak form IMHO the past couple of years, so capturing the "Classic" YES in state of the art reproduction of video and audio needs to happen. They could actually use different songs from different shows, wherever the best performances were. I think that would be more interesting then all from one show.
But a documentary is cool. I prefer that it uses archival material from all different eras of the bands history. A linear presentation that takes us from the beginning to now with all points in between would be amazing, and it would illustrate how amazing this group is to be out there in 2003 playing at such a high level. I look forward to the new DVD - it will give me a new look at the band that I love.

relayer_1

10-16-2003, 05:32 PM

as the Zep tune would put it: How many more times?

How many more times will YES and their management keep releasing the same old songs over and over again? With the advent of the 35th Anniversary comes the so called "Ultimate Yes" and when the 40th (I hope) anniversary comes along, there will be yet another release with those same songs we have bought before and beyond!

Asia has also been doing this but at least they re-recorded their classic songs (with John Payne - after Wetton) using new digital technology and added sound quality. No matter how great a remastered recording can be, it can never equal the sound quality of a brand new recording even if it is performing an old song in the studio (there already is plenty of live 90s stuff). Disclaimer: I am not saying that a new recording surpasses the landmark stature of an original. I would absolutely buy something like that instead of the same original (remastered and boy has Rhino done an excellent job) recordings that without a doubt most of us have bought!

oh, about that Yesspeaks DVD, if only we could get a chance to see and buy like some stores allow customers to hear CDs before they buy, that would be great considering that buying 3 hours of documentary and interviews would be a waste of time and $$. The annoying Yesyears and Welcome back by ELP are not worth re-buying. If you like documentaries, tune in the Discover channel.
Be on the lookout for those CD reviews after the euro release!

peace & love,
relayer

Earl Grey

10-16-2003, 05:43 PM

I always love to have another YES DVD out there. I wont balk at spending the $. I get a lot of pleasure from YES, it's the least I can do.
Let's keep YES happy: it will assure many more concerts in the future, and a long future for our reason to be here.

Hell yeah, I'll buy it! ...Looking forward to it, actually.

Earlie G :ele:

Mr. Holland

10-17-2003, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by relayer_1
as the Zep tune would put it: How many more times?

How many more times will YES and their management keep releasing the same old songs over and over again? With the advent of the 35th Anniversary comes the so called "Ultimate Yes" and when the 40th (I hope) anniversary comes along, there will be yet another release with those same songs we have bought before and beyond!

And I will say it again: YOU DON't HAVE TO BUY THEM!! I mean so there is "Ultimate Yes", I didn't buy it, because I allready have those songs, as all Die Hard Fans will, but what some don't seem to grasp is that those compilations aren't ment for the Die Hard fans anyway. Every 5-10 years a new genreration of music listners/buyers comes a long. When I was 9-10 years old I wasn't buying music, when I was 15-16 years old I was. And I think that I can safely assume that it is that way with most people. So there is a new buyer's market then, so to speak. To bring out a compilation, say every five years, means a band will attract new people the band, people who, from that compilation on (when they really like the music), will start buying the regular cd's and maybe will visit a concert now and then. And it seems to work, I mean "Ultimate Yes" sold 10.000 copies in the first week of it's release in the U.K., Magnification, the last regular album, didn't sell that many copies in the last two years, worldwide!

There is however one very big exception and that is when a band puts 2 or 3 new songs on a greatest hits album, that really is ripping your die hard fans of, because you force them to spent say $ 20,-, for 2 or 3 songs. That is something I refuse to do, so if Yes put's out "Ultimate Yes" in the U.S., with some new songs on it, I will be downloading them from the internet, without feeling the least bit guilty.........

On the subject of the Yesspeak dvd. I am looking forward to that dvd, I want to know everything about the band there is to know. I've played my copy of the Yesyears video to bits and I am especially curious about all the things that happened to the band 1991-2003, so I hope we'll be getting some inside information on that........

BredYes

10-17-2003, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Holland
[B]. And it seems to work, I mean "Ultimate Yes" sold 10.000 copies in the first week of it's release in the U.K., Magnification, the last regular album, didn't sell that many copies in the last two years, worldwide!

[B]

Let's keep facts correct. Magnification did not sell 10.000 copies world wide, fortunately for Yes it was much more. Maybe that number is based on some old sales figures in the UK alone. Today it has sold around 14.500 in the UK (without internet sales). In the Netherlands almost 10.000 copies were sold of Magnification. The sales figures in US are much larger and there are much more countries in the world of course.
Indeed, the Ultimate Yes sold much better in the UK (now around 65.000 copies) because of a huge promotion campaign, which I do not see in the Netherlands so far by the way.

I think Yesspeak is not meant for the casual fans only. I think it is extremely interesting for the die hard fans as well.

stevie

10-17-2003, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Earl Grey
I always love to have another YES DVD out there. I wont balk at spending the $. I get a lot of pleasure from YES, it's the least I can do.
Let's keep YES happy: it will assure many more concerts in the future, and a long future for our reason to be here.

Hell yeah, I'll buy it! ...Looking forward to it, actually.

Earlie G :ele:

Well said Earlie!

I couldn't agree more!

Mr. Holland

10-17-2003, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by BredYes
Let's keep facts correct. Magnification did not sell 10.000 copies world wide, fortunately for Yes it was much more. Maybe that number is based on some old sales figures in the UK alone. Today it has sold around 14.500 in the UK (without internet sales). In the Netherlands almost 10.000 copies were sold of Magnification. The sales figures in US are much larger and there are much more countries in the world of course.
Indeed, the Ultimate Yes sold much better in the UK (now around 65.000 copies) because of a huge promotion campaign, which I do not see in the Netherlands so far by the way.

I think Yesspeak is not meant for the casual fans only. I think it is extremely interesting for the die hard fans as well.

Oops! Sorry for that, but that was the information as I had it, thank for correcting me, Bredyes. However, my others points still stand!

spock

10-31-2003, 03:24 AM

Well..well...I will welcome any DVD of the band in order to support them...however....it would be a major stupid marketing mistake to release a double DVD which wouldn't give an option to program to be able to see and hear the show in his entire lenght.
I don't want to see a DVD with the likes of P.Mc. Cartney's last one...where the songs are cut with praises of fans etc...
That said....we just have to wait ...hope...and see.
spock

Mr. Holland

10-31-2003, 05:25 AM

Well..well...I will welcome any DVD of the band in order to support them...however....it would be a major stupid marketing mistake to release a double DVD which wouldn't give an option to program to be able to see and hear the show in his entire lenght.

Well, I'm afraid that this is not the case. On the Yesfocus meeting here in Holland from last saturday we got to see one hour of material from the dvd and it is a documentary, not a concert dvd, so you see parts of songs and performances with interviews with the band, band being in the tourbus, band arriving in the concerthall etc. However, it looked really good and interesting, so i'm sure going to purchase it. From what I understand from Yesworld.com it is not so much a double dvd as one dvd + one audio dvd/cd, so I'll think that last one, will probably contain the full concert.......

nightliner

10-31-2003, 06:57 AM

I'll be buying it no matter what it is, but I'd prefer that the music that is on the documentary not be interrupted by interviews.

spock

10-31-2003, 12:29 PM

Anyhow...I'll buy it..but..it still sound to me a missed opportunity to give us a full-concert video with Wakeman on keyboards. ( 1 disc for docu, 1 for the concert )
Cause frankly..the Keys DVD is allright for music but is stitched together and doesn't really reflect a complete-flowing-show.....in that order the Symphonic DVD is still superiour in every department.( and is also a double :one with docu on the second disk )
An DVD-A could have been released seperate like Magnification and Fragile.
Come to think of it......where there no rumours of an upcomming DVD of the Masterworks Tour ?

stevepenn

10-31-2003, 06:13 PM

I guess some people just can't be pleased. I'll buy it. Backstage interviews, prolly alot of goofing around AND a concert on DVD audio sounds pretty good to me.

As for Jon Anderson not being funny, I can't agree there. I've had the pleasure to meet him on numerous occasions and spent a couple of days with him off and on while on tour and I thought he had a pretty funny sense of humor. Not knee slapping crazy or cutting like Wakeman, but a little dry and zany. Playful, light and affable.

Anyway, yeah, I'll buy the gas, too. What can I say. I like the boys.

stevie

10-31-2003, 06:54 PM

yessongs72

11-01-2003, 02:53 AM

I'll be buying it too. It beats me how people can criticise something they haven't seen. It sounds great to me.
The trouble is, some people seem to want so much from the band. The last DVD was a full show and the Symphonic DVD will take some beating, by any band, it's brilliant. This DVD sounds as though it will be a bit different again.
I just really don't care for three hours of documentary and little footage of seeing them play.Think of it this way,pay to see Yes live and you get three hours of them talking and playing 30 seconds to one minute of a song and then chatting again.This is the way I view the DVD,and by the way Symphonic is awesome.I have reconsidered and may buy the DVD,but in the end it will gather dust like Yesyears.
I also was just at Best Buy site and the Stones who I could really give a flip for have a DVD coming out 11-11-03,and it has three shows,and documentary,four disc's in all for $29.99.I think Yes should see what one of the most successful group's in R&R history and maybe take a lesson.

eri-chan

11-01-2003, 11:35 PM

whats wrong with yes releasing a documentary? I for one am very interested in teh stories and happenings behind their music, rather than just the music itself. I mean the music comes form somewhere, and I would think that most yesfans would want to know about it. And I don't really see how their ripping us off - it would be one thing if it was being touted as a concert DVD and then wasn't, but it was said from the get-go that it was mostly the band members talking and sharing tales WITH some concert footage.

I personally plan on buying it, and I certainly won't feel bad about it. I really love to listen ot the band members talk, and I love hearing their stories. It adds a whole new dimension to the music, for me.

And as for Jon being funny, he actually makes me laugh quite a bit when he talks. He has a good sense of humor, and he can laugh at himself, which I love :)

eri-chan

11-01-2003, 11:41 PM

I just really don't care for three hours of documentary and little footage of seeing them play.Think of it this way,pay to see Yes live and you get three hours of them talking and playing 30 seconds to one minute of a song and then chatting again.This is the way I view the DVD,and by the way Symphonic is awesome.I have reconsidered and may buy the DVD,but in the end it will gather dust like Yesyears.
I also was just at Best Buy site and the Stones who I could really give a flip for have a DVD coming out 11-11-03,and it has three shows,and documentary,four disc's in all for $29.99.I think Yes should see what one of the most successful group's in R&R history and maybe take a lesson.

First of all, if you don't think it interests you, then don't buy it - no one will give you a hard time about it, But I don't see what good complaining about it will do - they're releasing it, and a lot of us are looking forward to it.

Second, it isn't as if yes is UNsuccessful. This site is proof enough that they have a hugely supportive fanbase. Maybe they don't WANT to be as big as the rolling stones, and in all honesty I don't think I'd want them to be anyway. It'd make us seem less special and unique :-P and anyway, its not like they've neevr released concert material either. YesSymphonic and Keys are both great concert DVDs, and there's nothign to say they won't decide to release another one in the future. But let the rest of us enjoy hearing our favorite musicians talk, and maybe try to understand someone else's opinion.

spock

11-02-2003, 04:02 AM

First of all, if you don't think it interests you, then don't buy it - no one will give you a hard time about it, But I don't see what good complaining about it will do - they're releasing it, and a lot of us are looking forward to it.

Second, it isn't as if yes is UNsuccessful. This site is proof enough that they have a hugely supportive fanbase. Maybe they don't WANT to be as big as the rolling stones, and in all honesty I don't think I'd want them to be anyway. It'd make us seem less special and unique :-P and anyway, its not like they've neevr released concert material either. YesSymphonic and Keys are both great concert DVDs, and there's nothign to say they won't decide to release another one in the future. But let the rest of us enjoy hearing our favorite musicians talk, and maybe try to understand someone else's opinion.

Still..and again...managment could have released a 2 disc-set, with docu and concert seperate....and made everybody happy.
In this case the second disc is audio-only. ( and how many live-cd's we have already ? )
I've been lucky to see this show twice this year...so I have the memories.
Many other's haven't...and this was an opportunity for them to see Rick live.
The symphonic DVD stands in my collection on second spot..only to be passed by Roger Waters "Flesh".
The Keys DVD ...is NOT...a concert DVD : it has footage of 3 shows stiched together.
For my part ...I'm happy with this release...but am still waiting for a good version of Heart of the Sunrise on DVD.
The song is superiour brought on the AWBH-video...which brings me to...when will the AWBH-DVD be released again ? Anybody knows ?

stevepenn

11-02-2003, 08:43 AM

We Yes fans sure are a demanding lot aren't we? It just always amazes me how many folks out there piss and moan about how the band does things. Or doesn't. I am certain a full-blown concert will appear on DVD at some point. I'd love it. And if it doesn't, well, it doesn't. So what. It's just a band for crying out loud. But in the meantime, I'll prolly pony up the cash and buy the Yesspeak package. Because, like eri-chan and so many others, the experience becomes more complete for me when I hear about their perspective on music, art, life or anything else for which they offer up their thoughts. It informs the music for me. It's no different than studying any other artist, writer, painter or musician. Their lives and their views inform the work and they are necessarily intertwined for many of us. Yet, if you simply prefer to listen (or watch) the music, that's great. But it gets sooooo old to hear all the babbling and complaining about why they did or didn't do this. Good lord. Nobody has to buy the bloody DVD if its not your cup of tea. But why take the trouble to grouse about it?

I for one am thankful for this extended time with Yes. It's a great time to be a fan and a lover of their great music. And I personally feel good things coming 'round by the corner.

*sigh*.

yessongs72

11-02-2003, 09:51 AM

When I first started this thread I was pissed and disappointed.Since I have decided that the documentary isn't bad,but how many times do you sit and watch a documentary compared to a ,say Symphonic? Thats is now my point and about the Stones,I only like a handfull of their songs and will use that $$ and buy the Two Towers DVD,again.But my point was id the Stones can release a four DVD set,three being shows and one being a documentary why can't Yes? It seems to me what better way of connecting to your fan base and gather new fans,which they are trying hard to do with the touring and Ultimate Yes Cd and the new live box set.
Yes also has fan's that can't see them every time they tour,ask the Aussies,it took them thirty years to make it back their and I'm sure our Aussie fans would love a show of Yes since Yes would be in their 80's if they wait another thirty years and the fans in England are pissed too,about tours and the Ultimate Yes release over hear containing new songs and not their.Yes also have fans that can't stop their jobs,or maybe have disabled fans unable to travel and this is just another means of communication in todays high teck world.The last time I saw Yes was 8-02 in Columbia,Md and I had to drive seven hours to see them and would do it again,if it's a weekend like this show was.But how many saw Yes two or three times that week because of geographic shows?That is just another point for shows and documentary together,instead of audio.Another is how many of us have got boot video shows with multiangles,well Yes would have to approve people to be in with camera's,thats another point they let boots be recorded and could be selling the shows themselves.
I know we demand a hell of alot from the group we love so much and me for thirty one,almost thirty two years.But at times I feel alot of the blame goes back in their corner.Now I am going to buy the DVD when it's released and watch the documentary when I feel like ,but I will more than likely listen to the audio show that's in 5.1 sound more than the documentary and also burn it to cd so I can have a good recording of a show to listen to in the car.
And finally Spock I'm happy to have you in my corner!One more point of rambling while I'm on a roll.When we go see Yes we walk out thinking how they just kicked butt and took names,but as time passes we forget the power and msytic of a Yes concert.But when you are able to see the show,especially of songs that hadn't been played in years,again thats very special.With that,I hope everyone now understands my point and yes I understand everyone elses point too.So,now we await the January release and lets hope everyone then is happy,it will be interesting to read post at release and then a month or two later about feeling of the DVD.

eri-chan

11-02-2003, 12:18 PM

The Keys DVD ...is NOT...a concert DVD : it has footage of 3 shows stiched together.

OK, so its a live music DVD, I don't see the difference, but if you say so.

And I'm glad you agree, stevepenn :-D

yessongs72

11-02-2003, 08:42 PM

OK, so its a live music DVD, I don't see the difference, but if you say so.

And I'm glad you agree, stevepenn :-D

Well, Spock I agree with you about the Keys DVD.Now not trying to upset anyone,(stepping lightly on eggshells):). Keys was a three night show put together into one DVD as a show and yes you can argue that it's a show.But IMHO a show is a HOB or Symphonic where they go out,perform and no editing like Keys picking the best,just accepting what come's out,it does make them play better.if you compare Key's to HOB and Symphonic,the latter two are much better,more emotion,you can feel the magic in the music as the show builds.
Now another subject, and just a bit off base bt Iwould love to see some feed back.As you all know Yessongs and Philadephia are missing over an hour of music.Wouldn't it have been great that they would have given us full shows on these tours,man Yes in 1972 and 1979 playing in their youthfull prime(thats kicking butt) just being able to see these grreat shows,but someone left it out.Has anyone ever wondered why?

spock

11-03-2003, 12:16 PM

Well, Spock I agree with you about the Keys DVD.Now not trying to upset anyone,(stepping lightly on eggshells):). Keys was a three night show put together into one DVD as a show and yes you can argue that it's a show.But IMHO a show is a HOB or Symphonic where they go out,perform and no editing like Keys picking the best,just accepting what come's out,it does make them play better.if you compare Key's to HOB and Symphonic,the latter two are much better,more emotion,you can feel the magic in the music as the show builds.
Now another subject, and just a bit off base bt Iwould love to see some feed back.As you all know Yessongs and Philadephia are missing over an hour of music.Wouldn't it have been great that they would have given us full shows on these tours,man Yes in 1972 and 1979 playing in their youthfull prime(thats kicking butt) just being able to see these grreat shows,but someone left it out.Has anyone ever wondered why?

Mmm.It could be quiet possible that for the remaining songs the images were in a bad state or impossible to edit or worse...that the master-tapes got lost...or...but this is a bit far fetched....that somebody objected on basis of certain rights ? Who knows. Stange things happen.
I'm searching since years for Beefhearts "Lick my decals ...."....no dice ( rights issue )
I got all Bond -movies except...Living daylights..( rights issue ) ( apparently will be available soon )
And then again....when will AWBH appear on DVD ?

stevepenn

11-03-2003, 01:10 PM

Could be glitches in the performance they weren't happy with. Quality of the audio or video or some other technical problem. It might also very well be that they never intended to shoot the whole thing and weren't necessarily thinking about doing a "concert" film as opposed to a creative "project" (which might explain the silly and totally uncessary animations.)

spock

11-05-2003, 11:05 AM

But why take the trouble to grouse about it?

*sigh*.[/QUOTE]

Why,
because if nobody speaks his mind ever about anything..whether it's about buying a car, a DVD, or even your daily bread....companies will deliver you a bad car, an image-quality-lacking dvd, and bread of 1 day old...that's why we have a free market which allows people to speak their mind and influence the marketing-business.
Buy the way...I'll buy the DVD as I always do in support of the band....but don't expect me to jump in the air, or shut my mouth.
It seems to me that some or grousing about the grousing.
:nono:

stevie

11-05-2003, 12:07 PM

But how can you grouse about something you haven't yet seen?

spock

11-05-2003, 12:27 PM

But how can you grouse about something you haven't yet seen?

I hope we get a recording of one of the 35 years-shows ( Wembley ? ) and Rick is still in the band. would make me happy.

Sheerah

11-05-2003, 01:14 PM

I for one, am looking forward to this DVD. I think it will be cool to get to know our Yes men more personally. Admittedly, however, I think I will try to rent it, verses buying it first. If I think it's worthy of a re-watch (which I think it will be) then I'll go ahead and purchase it.

stevepenn

11-05-2003, 01:50 PM

Well, since I just got back in from seeing and meeting Rick in Cleveland last night and since it's my birthday, I'm in a great mood. Spock, my only response is simply this:

I'd hardly compare Yes in any "caveat emptor" fashion to buying a car or bread. It's art and that's different. But that's just my opinion. Of course you have a right to your thoughts and to express them. We all do.

Have a great day everybody!! Rick was awesome last night. Sadly, the last of his shows although he confirmed a west coast swing in January. (Sheila!!!).

Jon and Rick on tour in January. Great time to be a fan, isn't it?

relayer_1

11-05-2003, 02:58 PM

[QUOTE=spock]Anyhow...I'll buy it..but..it still sound to me a missed opportunity to give us a full-concert video with Wakeman on keyboards. ( 1 disc for docu, 1 for the concert )
Cause frankly..the Keys DVD is allright for music but is stitched together and doesn't really reflect a complete-flowing-show.....in that order the Symphonic DVD is still superiour in every department.( and is also a double :one with docu on the second disk )

You are right on the money, bones, oops, I mean spock!

Having spoiled the SLO shows with those horrible and annoying so-called "effects" that were mixed in the Keys video, it was a golden opportunity to have Rick back in fold and shown with YES in a complete concert. Of course this is a missed opportunity! In my books, the Symphonic dvd is a hard act to follow and could only be surpassed by the release of ABWH or Queen's Park. BTW, did Yes ever film a complete show of the '76 tour with the Roger Dean props and Laser show? Now THAT would be a fan's dream come true.

Now on that Yespeaks, mmmm...let's see, oh just spotted these new Flower Kings and Peter Gabriel concert DVDs!! Ahh, the freedom of choice.

relayer

tardistraveler

11-05-2003, 05:19 PM

Well, since I just got back in from seeing and meeting Rick in Cleveland last night and since it's my birthday . . .

Happy Birthday Steve! Hope you have a great one!

And what's this about Jon and Rick touring in January?

stevepenn

11-05-2003, 05:39 PM

Thank you. Just watching my new DVD of Journey To The Centre Of The Earth recorded in Melbourne in 1975. Cool to see it done live.

Sorry to confuse about Jon and Rick. They are touring, but NOT together. Separately. According to his site, Jon's doing his solo thing on the east coast January 20 through February 10. And Rick told us for sure last night he'll be taking the show he just finished up back on the road on the west coast around the same time.

But wouldn't it be grand if they did do a little gig together?

tardistraveler

11-05-2003, 05:51 PM

Thanks for clarifying that one, Steve! And I'm glad you're enjoying your birthday!

spock

12-01-2003, 11:06 AM

I bought the DVD.
For those expecting something new or revealing...stick to the Yesyears release...cause at least that one doesn't kill history.
As to the picture quality : very good...except for the stills which accompany the audio-tracks.
Sound : I found that the stereo-mode was far better than the 5.1 or DTS-mode.
At times Roger Daltrey's voice is on a same level as the background music which makes it difficult to understand what's being said. Same for parts in certain intervieuws.Normal stereo-sound fixed that problem.
The audio-track : as for me...I found in this case the stereo-sound also better than the 5.1 option....don't expect the quality at f.i. the Fragile DVD-A.
In my opinion this release had a time-table which made it impossible to deliver a top-quality product.
Proof of this is already to find on the sleeve which indicates the tracks Yours is no disgrace and No opportunity........those tracks are not a the DVD.
Buy it : if you are a new Yes-fan or support the band...or need another live-audio registration.....

Simon B

12-02-2003, 10:16 AM

Thank you. Just watching my new DVD of Journey To The Centre Of The Earth recorded in Melbourne in 1975. Cool to see it done live.
stevepenn

...did I ever mention that Rick signed my version of this DVD?

I agree, I like the bits where the band turn to the orchestra and really enjoy hearing their parts!! Magic - not too sure about the inflatables though? :hippy:

TM

Gerard

12-03-2003, 03:00 PM

I won this DVD (and a new DVD player) in a BBC Radio 2 competition last Saturday. I don't know what to put on my Christmas list now!

yessongs72

12-03-2003, 03:23 PM

tardistraveler

12-03-2003, 05:03 PM

I won this DVD (and a new DVD player) in a BBC Radio 2 competition last Saturday. I don't know what to put on my Christmas list now!

Congratulations, Gerard, on your win! That's fantastic! I won a VCR back in 1984 and a Cars video during a promotion - at the time, I thought THAT was pretty cool! But to win Yes - wow!

And welcome to YesFans - glad to have you join us, and I hope you come back and party with us often!

ken johnson

12-04-2003, 09:00 PM

Squire Fish

12-04-2003, 09:37 PM

i read in some other places that yesheads are having problems getting their yespeak free poster.
All they need to do is go to classic pictures website.
you only need pay 3 pounds postage and vat,
better still you dont need to buy the dvd.
i did and think its well worth the money but its a shame
they didnt release the birmingham gig iwent to because
the quality of the tiny clips you see are fantastic.
I suppose they will make us wait.

posters,smosters can they make up the poor sound quality of ths DVD?Let's hope when it hits the states the bugs are worked out,if not I will record the DTS show to a cd and have a good sound board show, What did Yes have in mind when they released a documentary,the way you di that is have a show then a documentary with the DVD.But there are Yes fans that would buy anything released ,including a burp in 5.1 surround sound.So my Christmas wish is to ripp the from the DVD and maybe we will get luckey and actually hear a burp or fart on the DVD for the true Yes fan. :dog:

spock

12-05-2003, 10:36 AM

In addition to what I already stated before...the DVD ( at least my copy ) has more than a few bugs..at which the image stops for 1 to 3 seconds.
Also some images were altered in order to create a kind of arty effect. ( read...cutting images so that you get a non-flowing effect...kind of what is done at some times with the KTA-dvd ).
The effect is to me rather annoying than being refreshing.
I can live with it...but not with Roger Daltreys...uplifting..overdone praise of the band...as if we are all little children....in fact...I'm starting to be rather pleased that his voice was not some levels UP.

Simon B

12-05-2003, 10:43 AM

...and another thing - have you taken time to look at the 'photo's that accompany the audio concert?

Obviously YES haven't, some of the stills make Jon look like my Grandad - who has been dead for 20 years!

...and another thing, is Steve chewing gum in his 'spotlight' piece, or is he foaming at the mouth?

I'm actually really enjoying all this carping.

It's nearly 2004, haven't I got a 3 and a half hour YES gig to go to in 2004!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEAD RUSH!!

Total Mass

rob1960

12-05-2003, 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=yessongs72]I just want to know if everyone else reads this is as disappointed as I am. I can't believe that the group that I loved and respected for the last thirty-one years are releasing a documentary. I for one was pumped for a DVD of a show,from the Full Circle Tour.

I actually have it! I preordered on amazon.co.uk cos I was looking forward to watch it. In yesworld.com pages its plainly said hat it ain't any concert type of film, such as House of Yes, I can say it shows what promised in first place. A fair deal in my view.

What I find slightly disappointing is that there are loads of videos out there, some of these ufficial, most unofficial. it would be great if Yes' merchandise/marketing machine decided to restore all this material (Yessong quality is fishy at its best) and release a few DVD's showing YES, and each individual component (there are a few even of each lad, i.e. Steve unplugged in Montreux 1979) in their heydays, something like what achieved with the excellent Rhino latest releases.

I'm sorry you didn't like the idea behind YESSPEAK.

stevie

12-06-2003, 08:24 PM

posters,smosters can they make up the poor sound quality of ths DVD?Let's hope when it hits the states the bugs are worked out,if not I will record the DTS show to a cd and have a good sound board show, What did Yes have in mind when they released a documentary,the way you di that is have a show then a documentary with the DVD.But there are Yes fans that would buy anything released ,including a burp in 5.1 surround sound.So my Christmas wish is to ripp the from the DVD and maybe we will get luckey and actually hear a burp or fart on the DVD for the true Yes fan. :dog:

So what exactly is your point?

I would prefer Yes to release concert DVD's all the time. But YesSpeak as never being advertised as such. I'm really looking forward to seeing the DVD, can't wait for Christmas.

I really don't get some peoples sarky comments.

spock

12-07-2003, 10:35 AM

Last night I had a friend over and since we saw Yes already 6 times live , no need to tell he's a fan too.
I smacked the new release into the player and his first observation made : does your remote-controle have a button to make Roger Daltrey shut up ?
Since my remote hasn't such a feature...we sat through the joy-ride and made an effort to sing during Roger's comments.
(Mind you it didn't work...since 1 day now ...I'm hearing his voice going round my head)
Fortunately I have Peter Gabriels new release in order to get us in the mood.
Next time hire a proffesional narrator...please.....and no friend-service.....and I hope hope hope they WILL release a dvd of 1 of these concerts...cause frankly it seems to me that the picture quality of those recorded scenes we come to see are just excellent .
spock

Kingfish

02-06-2004, 11:16 PM

i ain't buying a fricking documentary. give me music or give me death.

yessongs72

02-06-2004, 11:26 PM

i ain't buying a fricking documentary. give me music or give me death.
I did buy this DVD this week at Best Buy for $15.99.The only reason was for the audio,that I can listen to in DTS.The audio is well worth the money,but the most stupid thing is the still pics they throw up.They could have included video,IMHO.I still believe they could have released both,hell the Stones which I don't really care for released a 3 DVD video and 1 with documentary.LZ did the same this year with How The West Was Won,and we get Roger Daughtry,lol.

Kingfish

02-06-2004, 11:30 PM

I read this on bestbuy.com about the Yesspeaks DVD as one of the features, that it has a audio only feature. Is this true?

Audio-only feature capturing the entire live set

Kingfish

02-06-2004, 11:44 PM

Kingfish

02-06-2004, 11:47 PM

I did buy this DVD this week at Best Buy for $15.99.The only reason was for the audio,that I can listen to in DTS.The audio is well worth the money,but the most stupid thing is the still pics they throw up.They could have included video,IMHO.I still believe they could have released both,hell the Stones which I don't really care for released a 3 DVD video and 1 with documentary.LZ did the same this year with How The West Was Won,and we get Roger Daughtry,lol.

Thanks for advice yessongs... I was looking for your nick to contact you. Do you charge for reading minds? :)