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RobAdams
08-29-2003, 10:26 PM
The only way to hear this album more clearly is to hear the actual master tapes in the Yes vault. Finally a CD mix of TALES that sounds the way it ought to. The four suites have a new life! Then there are the two bonus tracks - rough studio runthroughs of RSOG (called DANCE OF THE DAWN) and THE ANCIENT (called GIANTS UNDER THE SUN). Both bonus tracks are quite REVEALING of what Yes sound like getting an epic into shape. Lots of nice variations here, and again, like on the other studio run-through tracks( on CTTE and RELAYER), Jon's voice is more or less a guide vocal. He was saving his best singing for the final vocal tracks for whenever they finally perfected the music. And hearing a rough version of THE ANCIENT was a blast and a half! What an intense piece of music, even in its' early stages.

All Hail Rhino!

Atlantic who?

RobAdams
08-29-2003, 10:28 PM
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RobAdams
08-30-2003, 01:34 AM
I forgot to mention...REVEALING SCIENCE OF GOD is the extended intro version as released on IN A WORD : YES.

David Momberg
08-30-2003, 04:28 AM
I'm so glad that I never bought any of the other CD versions of this before this new Rhino re-master! The packaging,liner notes,pictures, everything is exquisite!!! And for 16.99! And now for the sound-it is crystal clear in places that were muddy and so 70's sounding(well, it was 1974)-well now the sound matches the technical brillance of the music, which was light years ahead of it's time. Listen to the Alan White drum solo/break in Ritual at full volume! Now, for the extras-it took me awhile to get used to this version of RSOG, but I realize now as you said Rob, that Jon's voice is used more as a guide, and you realize on this song on the other run-throughs on GFTO,CTTE,and Relayer, that a lot of the best lyrics were changed at the last. As for the run-through of The Ancient-this is the highlight of the whole CD for me. Again, the vocals are very rough, but Steve and Alan's work esp. are amazing. I never thought I'd like an electric version of Leaves of Green-but it is truly majestic. I wonder if Rick has listened to this yet-his keyboards are lost alot in the mix, but are great on the alternate RSOG. Overall, I recommend this for everyone-Those who hated Tales,those who only like RSOG and Ritual,those who always loved it.and even those who have never heard it. So what,as Rick says, if there was so much experimentation going on through the recording process. Experimentation is what Yes has always been about-if they remained stagnant they wouldn't still be around for 35 years with legions of loyal fans!!!! I implore you to check out this classic!!!!

Phat Khatru
08-30-2003, 09:17 AM
It's GREAT isn't it ! BRAVO Rhino !

SonicDeath10
09-03-2003, 02:06 AM
i really want to get all the new remasters, i only have close to the edge out of the recent ones. i have to ORDER them from sam goody (Booo). should ig et tales next?

Sheerah
09-06-2003, 04:29 PM
I love the clarity of the voices on the CD. And the Bonus tracks are so cool! But I have to tell you, I am quite unhappy with (and pardon my lack of technical jargon here) the mix of the drums. I had a bunch of running around to do yesterday, and I played the Rhino's Tales all day long while in my car. My car stereo is my best stereo. I just wasn't hearing the drums very well. I was really disappointed. I tried adjusting all of the levels, but I just wasn't getting the drums.

Earl Grey
09-06-2003, 05:12 PM
The sound is such, that I feel I've never really heard this great album until now.

Even the original LP sounded bland and uninspired 'production-wise'.
You could see the treasure down there, an elaborate montage of jewels and artistry, frustratingly occluded by an uninspired mix of sea-sludge.

NOW.
Now
now
NOW!


At last we can hear TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS for the first time ever: this amazing, most ambitious of all progressive rock albums finally sounds as it was meant to sound: with clarity, lucidity, and presence.
~~~~~~~

Listening to TALES was once like diving for pearls: I could enter the realm, I could perceive the wonders... But they all seemed just out of reach.

Finally, the clouds have lifted, the multifaceted gem is brought to the surface... It was worth the wait.

Tales From Topographic Oceans is a masterwork of masterworks.

You owe it to yourself to hear TALES. And you haven't until now. The remaster is that good.
~~~~~~

Our reason to be here...

Earl Grey:yesbird:

RobAdams
09-06-2003, 10:21 PM
Tonight I realized how cool it is to attempt lead guitar parts while playing along with the studio run-through of RSOG.

And now more than ever before you can hear how the heavily contructed arrangements of THE ANCIENT hinted at where they were heading on the NEXT album.

Sheerah
09-07-2003, 01:42 AM
So am I the only one who feels that the drums could be mixed a little more upfront in the mix?

RobAdams
09-07-2003, 04:35 AM
Well, Sheila...I'll have to say that the drums sound just right to me, and better than they used to sound. Especially on THE ANCIENT.

Faceintheplace
09-09-2003, 12:10 AM
I'm still trying to figure out all the bass parts to "The Revealing." I figured out the intro, I've been able to play "Into the Lens" for a long time and I realized that "Revaling" has a similar single note patern. I can also play the bit that repeats every now and then in E. Its hard to describe, but one part where it comes up, Jon is singing "La la la, la la, la la, la, la la" along with Chris' bass. Chris' work is always challenging to figure out, I can play a few things, "Yours Is No Discrace", "Perpetual Change", "Roundabout", "Into The Lens" and the original short version of "The Fish" I can play all of, and I've figured out bits of "H.O.T.S.", "The Revealing...", "Ritual", "CTTE", "Sound Chaser" and "I'm Running" (but I can only play it verrrrrrry slowly.)

Emops
09-09-2003, 05:14 PM
I don't like Tales that much.

I did, however, buy the remaster, and I have to say I find it more listenable now that the sound is ^10 better. I actually rather like ‘Revealing Science of God’ now, and I think the new intro has something to do with that.

Sheerah
09-11-2003, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by RobAdams
Well, Sheila...I'll have to say that the drums sound just right to me, and better than they used to sound. Especially on THE ANCIENT.

It's RSOG that I have a problem with the drums. The drums are strong on every other track.

SonicDeath10
09-12-2003, 01:07 AM
holy crap. new extended intro on revealing science. that's cool. this has never sounded better. wow. 3 minutes into the album holy ----. it never sounded thsi good my god. i can't believe the clarity. i'm in heaven.

SonicDeath10
09-12-2003, 01:36 AM
okay revealing science of god was amazing. the remembering? more beautiful than ever. can't wait for the an cient.

iamthatiam
09-16-2003, 12:19 AM
this has a sheen to it,it SHINES,THIS IS LIGHT IN A DARK AGE,THE SCOPE OF THIS SOUNDSCAPE IS BOUNDLESS ,TRULY TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS!

Faceintheplace
09-16-2003, 01:23 AM
Yeah, I think the extended intro really helps "The Revealing." Instead of suddenly being submerged into the Topographic Oceans, it lets us slowly wade in. I can't wait to get the new remaster. I've gotten "CTTE" and "Relayer" so far, so two down, two to go (although it looks like I might have to special order "Tales", unless Musicworld carries it after it moves back into the Rideau mall.)

How's the pakaging on the Rhino version? Any photos from the recording session with the farmyard motif?, Did they restore the pictures from the original gatefold? Is the lyric sheet black with white typeface? I can't wait to have all my questions answered.

SonicDeath10
09-16-2003, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by Faceintheplace
Any photos from the recording session with the farmyard motif? they mention it briefly but disappointgly no pics.

Earl Grey
09-16-2003, 02:22 AM
The packaging... Let's see.

I LOVE the slipcase: nice. The CD comes in a triple gatefold, with a nice booklet inclosed. Unfortunately, there are no 'barnyard' photoes from the studio (hyuck!): Mike Tianno wrote the liner notes, and he did a really fine job. There's a posed shot of YES that I hadn't seen before, and some nice concert close-ups of the band.

The complete lyrics are printed in the booklet... Oh, and there's a nice shot of Howe standing under the old Sunset Blvd TALES billboard.

The package is pure class: my favorite so-far.

:yesbird:

Faceintheplace
09-16-2003, 02:31 AM
Are all those cool nature photos from the vinyl version restored?

Earl Grey
09-16-2003, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Faceintheplace
Are all those cool nature photos from the vinyl version restored?

Yes they are! The photos were taken by Steve Howe, weren't they?

I've been really enjoying TALES today... I brought it to work with my discman. Don't tell my boss! :D

:ele:

iamthatiam
09-19-2003, 09:33 PM
How cool it would be to have TALES turned into a state of the art animated movie starring YES with Roger Dean as art director on the project ,maybe get DREAMWORKS or WALT DISNEY involved,this would be incredible,who is with me ,how do we get the ball rolling on this,this can happen!

Faceintheplace
09-19-2003, 11:39 PM
I went to Record Runner today. They now have all the Rhino editions except TFTO, and they said that should be in by the start of October. So I'll be owning this shortly. I've been salivating about this reading through this topic, I can't wait to hold it in my hot little hands.

BredYes
10-02-2003, 06:33 AM
I bought it a few days back and I must say the sound quality is superior compared to the previous releases. It is well worth the money. All instruments and voices are much clearer.
I could live without the bonus tracks: RSOG is played very well but the voices are horrible: Jon is low in the mix and his voice is very thin. There are some changes in the melody lines but I prefer the original. The Ancient is a little bit more interesting because it has more differences with the original. The electric guitars on Leaves of Green are intersting but the known version is much better in my opinion.

ANTIOCH
10-02-2003, 11:51 AM
I picked this Rhino Re-master up and boy am I happy I did !
I need not add anything else . . it's all been said, but for those that feel 'Tales' was anything short of brilliant; PICK this CD up !!

RobAdams
10-02-2003, 12:27 PM
The bonus tracks are great. I think it's interesting to hear those great pieces in this "work in progress" stage. Of course the vocals are thin and a bit off, and of course the regular versions of the two tracks are superior. This is a glipse into the band's creative process!

Faceintheplace
10-29-2003, 11:50 AM
Just got mine today. This is sweet. The sound is good, I don't think its as good as some of the others in the Rhino series, but its very good.

I'm really liking the bonus tracks, espceially the mostly instrumental version of "The Ancient." I notice it features Rick a lot more than the finished version.
Great packaging too, and a good value. (Record Runner still had the Atalntic reissue of Tales, and it still had its $32.00 price tag. The improved version is nearly 10 dollars cheaper and was totally worth it.

Sticks
06-06-2004, 09:56 PM
What's with the release of Fragile on audio DVD ages ago yet no follow up with CTTE or TFTO? The levels of vocal and instrument interplay on TFTO is deeper than anything the band have achieved since. The sonic clarity is astonishing. Alan's kit sounds as crisp as a fresh stick of celery taken from a chilly refrigerator. The sitar sounds like...well it sounds like a sitar. Where were all of those extra guitar and keyboard notes hiding all this time? The punch of the bass guitar leaves me breathless. The harmony vocals sound so 'live' it's like the guys pop in for a visit each time I stick on the headphones.

Given the 5.1 treatment TFTO might just be the best sounding of all Yes albums.

Dantalion Rides Again
09-09-2004, 10:07 AM
I'm gonna get this one soon. I've only got TYA, Fragile, CTTE & 90125 so far. I can't believe I'm buying the Yes albums again!

But The Ancient on DISC ONE?? Too much for my OCD Right Brain!! You can't strand Ritual with only the bonus tracks to share disc two with!!!! haha!

Ryan
09-20-2004, 03:06 PM
would you say that its worth 26$ to buy the Rhino Remaster of Tales? I'm kind of debating on doing this. I have the Atlantic and Rhino versions of CTTE and to be honest i find there isn't a heck of a lot of difference. The only part that i really noticed a lot was that the birds chirping and the water droplets sounded clearer.