**Starship Stumpers**

[Mike Park]

Stumper #1:

Ok, Troopers, it is 07:00 PDT and the meter's running!

What is Jon Anderson singing on Yessongs just before he says "Ah....Mr. Rick Wakeman....

The flag is up!

:confused:

[gathernear]

That's an actual piece of music? I just thought he was drifting,again.

Larry

[Mike Park]

Originally posted by hotratslll
That's an actual piece of music? I just thought he was drifting,again.

Larry

Got all excited there for a sec, Larry, I thought somebody had gotten it...Yes it is an actual piece of music and very famous, at that!

mp

[haroldthebarrel]

Is it And you and I ?

Joe C

[Mike Park]

Nope. :(

Hint #1: It's not a Yes song.

[haroldthebarrel]

Gosh,
I KNOW i have heard this answer before, but I can't recall, I have to dig into my way distant memory!

[nightliner]

I'm not sure of the name, but it consists of a lot of la's.

[1yesfan]

Very interesting ?? I have NO CLUE! :confused:

[haroldthebarrel]

Baa baa black sheep?

[Mike Park]

Ok, here comes Hint #2:

One of the most famous riots in musical history occurred at its premiere performance...

...on May 28, 1913....

[haroldthebarrel]

Stravinsky's 'Rites of Spring'!?!?!?!?


Man..... I am straining my brain here!!!;)

It's either that or Berg's "Songs of Vienna"

Joe C

[Mike Park]

!!!WINNER!!!WINNER!!!

you got it, Joe...

I'm not sure where I learned that, it might've been the unauthorized biography of Yes I read a few years back.

I just got the Fantasia Trilogy for my birthday recently and I played Rite last night, and seeing the posts about Firebird made me think of this quiz.

To really, really appreciate the Firebird Suite finale Yes used to play before their concerts, one really needs to listen to the whole piece (45 min.). Like Rite of Spring, you're listening to it and you don't realize it's started...I mean, it comes from nowhere and all of a sudden, there it is. And then when the soft strains (oboe?) of the finale begin, it becomes all so familiar. Years ago, I made my own recording of the finale and blended in Rick's transformation of the final chord to minor and it came out perfect.

I'd also like to plug one of Stravinsky's teachers, Rimsky-Korsakov. My all-time favorite classical work is Scheherezade. It's about 50 minutes and is amazingly powerful, rich and passionate. Twice I've seen the Oregon Ballet perform an original dance to it and it was a stunningly beautiful visualization of the musical tale of 1001 Arabian nights.

Check it out!

[Mike Park]

Stumper #2:

"He's the only guy I know who's out to save the planet, while living on another..."

Who said it, and about whom??

(NOTE: Since the Stravinsky stumper was so hard, I'm really lightening up here...)

:rolleyes:

mp

Have a great Easter everybody!

[gathernear]

It's Rick Wakeman talking about Jon Anderson.

[Mike Park]

You got it, rat.

(From the Live in Concert 2000 DVD).

mp

[Mike Park]

**STARSHIP STUMPER #3**

Ok, Troopers, get out your thinking caps for this one!

What does Close to the Edge have in common with The Legend of Bagger Vance?

It's now 4/23/01 14:41 PDT - the meter's running! :p

[haroldthebarrel]

Well Close to the Edge is based on "Siddhartha" the book by Herman Hesse which explains how one man finds the meaning of life by looking in the river. Enlightened by an old river-boat tendant the man becomes spiritual and finds the real meaning to his existence.

In "The Legend of Bagger Vance", a man finds the meaning of life through playing golf, and is enlightened to this by a mysterious Caddy named Baggar Vance. That is the only similarity I could come up with!

:cool:

Joe C

[1yesfan]

TEST

:bncsmls

[Mike Park]

Dang, you're too good, Joe - That's exactly right.

And you didn't even need the clue that I was referring to the most excellent book by Steven Pressfield, and not the smarmy Redford movie he plagarized from the book.

I heartily recommend SP's other book "Gates of Fire" - about the 300 Spartans.

mp

[1yesfan]

:confused:

Hey this topic is sorta cool. Do you guy want me to set up a forum for it?? Yesfans Trivia area?

[haroldthebarrel]

Yes Tim,
I think it would be an interesting section, I am in full support of it!

And to Mike P,
I am suprised I got that one! I haven't read the book, but knew it was based on a book, thanks for the suggestions of reading material!:cheers:

joe :cool:

[Alexander]

The book "Siddhartha" by Hesse is loosely based on the life of the Buddha, whose birthday by the way--April 8--is the same as Steve Howe's and mine.

I wonder what the significance of this trinity is (other than we all look good in a loincloth). It all seems to have come together at Yesfans.

[Mike Park]

***Who will score on Starship Stumper #4??? :crazy:

Starship Trooper is not the first place that Disillusion appears....

...what is (is)????

Straight up twelve PDT!
:p :p :p

[Mike Park]

27 hours and counting:

Plenty of looks, but no bites - - :confused:

What's up, peoples? Is it that tough?? :devil:

(where's joeC......)

[haroldthebarrel]

I am stumped on this one!
:eek: :confused: :eek: :eek: :WH: :confused:

[Mike Park]

I came across the song on a Yessessions boot, from a recording of the John Peel Sunday Show on April 7, 1970. The song does not appear on any standard release that I know of.

The name of the tune is "For Everyone".

Current score is Joe Campbell 2, HotratsIII 1, and the Stumper Deluxe, me, 1.:ohhyeah:

[haroldthebarrel]

Cool. I would have never got that one!

Let's have another!!:cheers:

[Mike Park]

While the rest of my family is glued to the set seeing who will "Survive", I'm over here with 'Stumper #5!


What Prokofiev composition is presented in a Yes song, and where does it appear?

Good luck, players!

(doo-dee-doo-do-doo-dee-doo...)
:crazy: :bncsmls :crazy:

[gathernear]

Sorry, I'm stumped by that one. Can I ask an easy one? I know Joe will get this but maybe he's somewhere else tonight. OK, which Yes member played on a Black Sabbath album?

[Mike Park]

Rick Wakeman!:D

[haroldthebarrel]

And it was Sabbath Bloody Sabbath!:bncsmls

[siberian khatru]

I'm not all that sure, but I'd like to take a stab at
guessing which song features Prokofiev. I'll say 'Dear
Father' from the 1975 release "Yesterdays". There's
a heavily orchestrated bridge in that song which might
be a Prokofiev piece.

I'd also like to enter a Stumper #6:

Which Yes song features material by the composer Holst?

[Mike Park]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by siberian khatru
[B]I'm not all that sure, but I'd like to take a stab at
guessing which song features Prokofiev. I'll say 'Dear
Father' from the 1975 release "Yesterdays". There's
a heavily orchestrated bridge in that song which might
be a Prokofiev piece.

***
Not sure about Dear Father, I haven't heard that in a long long time - but it's not the one I'm thinking of in this Stumper. As for Holst, he has quite a repertoire. I'll have to think about that one. Didn't ELP us Holst in something???

mp

SS#5 clue: It's in a cover.

[siberian khatru]

If it's in a cover, I'll bet it's eithers Steven Stills 'Everydays' or the Beatles' 'Every Little Thing'.
I know it's got to be from one of the first two albums, Yes seemed to shut off the musical quotes spigot once
Stevie jumped on the bandwagon.

As to the name of the Profokiev piece, someone else
will have to provide it. Carl Palmer used a bit of the
Scythian Suite called 'The Enemy God Dances with the Black Spirits' on the "Works" album so I'm familiar with
that. Apart from 'LoveSong43Oranges' and his rearrangements of other frosty-blooded Russians' work, I wouldn't know a Profokiev piece if it fell on me.

As to my Holst question, you're right about ELPowell using 'Mars, the Bringer of War'. In concert, they started the song with footage of a rocket launching (with countdown) and then let Cozy smash out his drum solo half-way through. That was the last song before the encores - one of the crappiest endings to a show I've ever witnessed. (Greg Lake also did 'Mars' during his short stint with King Crimson.)

As a hint, I'll admit that the Yes piece also quotes "The Planets". I'll be back Monday with the answer. Have a good weekend!

[haroldthebarrel]

Is it Something's Coming?

Otherwise, does nayone know about Siberian Khatru and what th main melody is ripped off from, i've read that Wakeman tood it from Mozart of Stravinsky or something, I tried to find the actual article so I could use it here, but oh well, I couldn't so I could be making this up for all i know, anyone have any clues?

joe c:confused:

[Mike Park]

Halfway there, Joe!

It is Something's Comin', now what's the piece?
:rolleyes: :confused: :rolleyes: :confused: :rolleyes:

[Mike Park]

Got it, SK! :D

It's The Prophet, from T & W.

OK, that annoyingly familiar lead from Something's Comin' is still hanging out there....

[siberian khatru]

Mike: Yes, you got the right answer to Stumper #6:
'The Prophet' (from the album "Time and a Word") borrows heavily from Holst's 'Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity'. I think the band also worked a bit of 'Jupiter'
into 'Everydays' (from "Time and a Word").

Anyone who's heard the album "Renaissance - Live at
Carnegie Hall" has witnessed another theft from
'Jupiter'. The opening track, 'Prologue' borrows a whole
passage from the Holst work (I don't have the studio
album 'Prologue' is on, so I don't know if they used it there as well).

[siberian khatru]

I'm justing putting two plus two here, but 'Something's Coming' is a song from "West Side Story", an adaptation
by Lennie Bernstein of "Romeo and Juliet". I know that
Funkmaster Sergei P. scored this for ballet. While I couldn't identify the exact name of the passage, I'll submit R & J as my answer and hope for at least a partial credit. Please hang a flag out on the fire escape if I'm right.

[yesprod]

firebird suite

[Mike Park]

Originally posted by siberian khatru
I'm justing putting two plus two here, but 'Something's Coming' is a song from "West Side Story", an adaptation
by Lennie Bernstein of "Romeo and Juliet". I know that
Funkmaster Sergei P. scored this for ballet. While I couldn't identify the exact name of the passage, I'll submit R & J as my answer and hope for at least a partial credit. Please hang a flag out on the fire escape if I'm right.

Hmm, nice try but no cigar - shows you're thinking though.

There's a clue here in your thinking, kind of like an unturned stone? Speaking of R & J, there's another well-known keyboardist who's tackled the F-master's work you refer to, as well as the one we're looking for.....

[Mike Park]

Originally posted by yesprod
firebird suite

Right composer, wrong answer.

It's The Rite of Spring, and was already answered up the thread aways.

mp

[haroldthebarrel]

It looks as if this "stumper" has been so revised and reworded, that I am not sure of what the question is anymore, nor what question was answered, which one was not, and what the answer was if so. But as far as I can tell the 'other' keyboardist would be Emerson right?

Let's get a new one going!

joe Cbncsmls

[siberian khatru]

Mike: Just before reading your last post, the melody
popped into my head. Peter Banks rips off the Lt. Kije
Suite riff during his guitar solo in 'Something's Coming'.
Reading your post just confirmed it for me. Keith Emerson
and Greg Lake also ripped it for 'Father Christmas', which
wound up on the "Works Vol. 2" album after release as a
single.

OK, how about a Stumper #7?

What was the name of the song Trevor Horn wrote for Yes
BEFORE he was asked to join the band?

[wolfehollow]

Peter banks plays parts of Jesu Joy of Mans Desiring in a song on Time and a word.

[talkaboutsending..]

We Can Fly from Here.

[siberian khatru]

"We Can Fly From Here" is the correct answer.
Trevor Horn wrote it with Jon Anderson's voice
in mind before the departure of Jon and Rick from
the band. The song was performed on the "Drama"
tour (usually after the Geoff Downes solo), but
never released. Chris Squire sang a verse by himself
right after the song's bridge ('Along the edge of this
airfield...'). It's really a terrific song if you can get your
hands on a "Drama" live boot.

Stumper #8 :

Which Yes song was recorded by the Buggles after their
departure from the band?

[haroldthebarrel]

"Which Yes song was recorded by the Buggles after their
departure from the band?"

--As far as I know and researched, no song was recorded by the Buggles AFTER they left Yes, which was after Drama. But I could be wrong.

Joe C:confused:

[siberian khatru]

Joe: There was one Yes song which was redone
by Horn and Downes as The Buggles. If it helps, I'll
offer a hint: the song's name was changed.

[Squire*Fan725]

I think it may have been Into the Lens, and they changed it to I am a Camera, or something like that.

[haroldthebarrel]

But didn't the buggles break up after only one album? Then Trevor Horn went on to Yes with Downes, and then on to other projects?:confused:
Either way I guess I am sure stumped!silly: :WH:

joe C:crazy:

[siberian khatru]

Joe C and Squire*Fan72571:

'I Am a Camera' was a track on the album "Adventures In Modern Recording" (released March, 1982). The re-formed Buggles recorded "Adventures" at Sarm Studios with Horn playing lead and bass guitar as well as handling vocals. It was after this Buggles album (their last) that Downes formed Asia with Steve Howe.

'Camera' is a slow, moody version of 'Into the Lens'. It was released as a single as early as October, 1981. The album credits for this song only list "Horn / Downes". The single credits list Horn with a John Sinclair, who did some electronic drum machine and cymbals work.

[haroldthebarrel]

Very Intersting!:smksml:

[Mike Park]

I've been away for a couple of days, and looks like a lot of activity here.

Good Job, SK on the Lt. Kije Suite.. I stumbled on a set of Emerson demos and one of the numbers was "Troika" - after downloading it I played it and voila! There's that familiar melody. I just recently downloaded the orchestral version.

BTW (and tremendously off-subject) for the past few days I've been downloading Alberto Ginastera compositions (and even got a couple of CD's from the library) - way powerful stuff! I wonder if Wolfie is familiar with his work...I love Cuban/Afro-pop and now I've discovered Brazilian classical. ;)

Looks like all the open stumpers have been answered, glad to see there's more players now - both ways :cheers:

Okay, how about this one, ah-h-h-. looks like #9....#9...#9...

Rick Wakeman received a call in the middle of the night from Chris Squire, asking him to join Yes as their new keyboardist. But Rick already had another offer on the table, from the same day...who was that from????

GOOD LUCK!:cool: :) :cool: :) :cool:

[talkaboutsending..]

"I'm forming a band which I'm going to call 'Spiders of Mars' and I want you to be part of the band and be responsible for the arrangements as well...," David Bowie.
The following night, or at 3.00a.m. to be precise, the telephone rang...This one was from Chris Squire.

[siberian khatru]

Mike: See what you miss when you try to live a life away from your keyboard? Glad you're back providing stumpers. If you're
getting into Alberto Ginastera, I wanted to steer you to another piece of his which Emerson covered. I'm sure you're aware of 'Toccata' from "Brain Salad Surgery". The freakiest live version of this was done during the early-1973 European tour (before "BSS" was recorded). Instead of early in the set, after "Jerusalem", ELP started their encore with it, going into "Rondo" and the drum solo.

There's also a piece Emerson used during his solos for the Emerson Lake & Powell and Three tours called "Creole Dance", from Ginastera's "Creole Dances". Chew on that one if you can get your hands on it. If you want to suggest a trade (I do CDr's, audiotape and videotape) to get this or other ELP/Yes stuff, drop me a line.

[Mike Park]

Way to go, Talkabout - chalk one up for the Aussies! And right you are, the call came the following morning from Chris.

SK- Have you heard Toccata performed by orchestra? It's amazing how close ELP's cover is to the original. The first time I heard ELP do it, it was something like Mahavishnu - I'm thinking how the heck do they score this?? I'm still looking for Ginastera performing Creole Dance. I've got ELP both live and studio (or demo??).

Back to work!

mp

[Richard]

Something from Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring".:rolleyes:

[smatt]

That would be the correct answer. It really is a pretty good version of the song to.

Matt

[Olias_01]

Joe: There was one Yes song which was redone
by Horn and Downes as The Buggles. If it helps, I'll
offer a hint: the song's name was changed.

I believe the buggles changed the name of Into The Lens to I Am A Camera and used it as an album track. I don't think it was ever released as a single.

[fovman]

Broken foot/ankle questions:

Tony Kaye is shown with a cast on his foot on the cover of the Yes Album.
How did this happen and who was to blame?

Who was Alan White sporting with when he broke his foot?
...and what sport?

[Sheerah]

Bump!

[Jackaranda]

Well I can answer the 2nd half. Alan was roller skating with Richard Branson.

[new_sum_do_solve_ay]

Stumper #2:

"He's the only guy I know who's out to save the planet, while living on another..."


You kind of got it misquoted there. It was on Wakeman live 2000. He was very serious and said, "...only person I know who's out to save the planet."

...pause while everyone sobers up...

"Thing is... its not ALWAYS this one."

Big chuckle here. :)