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90125yes
10-19-2009, 10:14 AM
just thought i would post about 90125
i go through periods without playing it becasue i like classic yes best
but when ever i do - i love it
grest music and i know it is YES's best selling album which is why i am called 90125YES
every track makes me happy and smile
i remember when OOALH was released - i got the single on vinyl and i played it and played it
90125 is a great record from an era when YES got great radio play
:beerchugr:
CybrKhatru
10-19-2009, 10:27 AM
We need a nodding smilie. :D :thumbs:
90125 was the period that properly introduced me to Yes, and my love of that album eventually led me to the 70s music.
TOBYSGRAPHICGOKART
10-19-2009, 10:36 AM
90125 was the period that properly introduced me to Yes, and my love of that album eventually led me to the 70s music.
That is its only saving grace.
For me,brought up on Classic Yes,90125 was,sadly,the beginning of the end.
crotale2112
10-19-2009, 10:50 AM
just thought i would post about 90125
i go through periods without playing it becasue i like classic yes best
but when ever i do - i love it
every track makes me happy and smile
:beerchugr:
yes!! To me songs like Hearts and It can happen have become classics in my book. And it's true for me, every track can make me smile aswell.
Lets not forget 9012live the solos which to me is a branch of the whole 90125 thing. I love every track from that recording and Whitefish to me is one of squire's best live bass solos out there. The whole Energy from that album and tour still resonates within me. I will never forget that show at madison square garden. Sorry howe fans but the version of And you and I on that tour was some of the most powerful I have ever witnessed at any yes concert. the version on the box set says it all.
The best thing about the whole 90125 tour was the opening act at MSG. Yes fans were blown away by bugs bunny and his sniffing of pure eather. anyone out there remember that one?
Dantalion Rides Again
10-19-2009, 10:51 AM
I'll always love a few of the tracks on that album, but somehow I don't really get into it on the whole.
My favorites are "Owner" and "Hold On", and I like "It Can Happen" and "Leave It" a lot.
Thing is, though, unlike Matt, this was an album I got in order to complete the collection when I was already way into Yes.
Interestingly, I really love "Owner", probably because that was the first thing I ever heard from them. So while I'm sorta indifferent to the album, that song will always sound cool to me.
90125yes
10-19-2009, 11:07 AM
That is its only saving grace.
For me,brought up on Classic Yes,90125 was,sadly,the beginning of the end.
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but then it carried YES on until the classic lineup returned
i would encourage you to listen to OUR SONG
it is great
:beerchugr:
Dantalion Rides Again
10-19-2009, 11:44 AM
Um. Isn't that the song with the lyric "Go go Toledo, Toledo gotta go"?
:D
rphheather
10-19-2009, 02:42 PM
just thought i would post about 90125
i go through periods without playing it becasue i like classic yes best
but when ever i do - i love it
every track makes me happy and smile
:beerchugr:
I feel the same way (except I have heard Owner enough times for my lifespan). I too prefer classic Yes and I go through long periods of time when I snub this album but when I do give it a listen I wonder why I waited so long. Solid throughout. When this was releasedit was a great time in my young life, maybe that is why I get a happy feeling from it. :headset:
yarstruly
10-19-2009, 02:48 PM
As Kevin alluded, Our Song has some cringeworthy lyrics, but I really LOVE 90125! Its not CTTE, but wasn't designed to be....I think it is progressive in its own ways, especially in the context of 1983....
Great album!
fovman
10-19-2009, 02:52 PM
Yes.... 90125 was Yes' last GREAT album! IMO
Big Generator was a good followup...except for the title song.
I was not really excited about any of their albums as a whole after that.
...but I should listen to them again.
bjlevine
10-19-2009, 04:20 PM
There is a lot of great music on 90125. But other than "It Can Happen" its just not Yes to me. Even early Peter Banks era Yes sounds like Yes to me. I guess that in the Trevor era, the style of music arrangement had really changed.
9012-jive
10-19-2009, 04:23 PM
90125 is a great record from an era when YES got great radio play
:beerchugr:
Hey, it STILL gets radio play!!!!
I couldn't agree more and I will add that when it IS played on the radio, I get this great boost to my day which is often stressful and that kind of smile goes a long way. I mean when you've been on the phone with some people, and get into your car feeling low, and hear that funky drum intro from OOALH, your whole mood can change in the blink of an eye!
jaynote1
10-19-2009, 05:07 PM
i agree, 90125yes......Cinema/Leave It, to me, is classic Yes...I had misgivings about the album because Steve Howe wasnt on it, and I felt guilty about liking it....Owner, It Can Happen, Hearts, are all wonderful Yes songs......It came about at a time that I was worried that Yes had dissolved completely....It wasnt the Yes that I was used to, but it was Yes that had a new idea and a new paradigm and a Yes that fit the zeitgeist and was immensely successful.....(it was also the first Yes tour that I saw....)
jaynote1
10-19-2009, 05:10 PM
I also wanted to reply to the remarks concerning Big Generator...I like it, i think its probably the most underrated Yes album to date, maybe other than Open Your Eyes.......
9012-jive
10-19-2009, 05:17 PM
Steve Howe is great in the way that a mandala is great. However, he would never have come up with Cinema.
Cimena is just awesomeness. The blending of sounds is just warp speed. And there is a healthy dose of imagination. I mean you can hear a horse galloping like a chase in the old west through the whole thing. But in the end it's like the engine of some great starship like a Star Trek movie. Cinema: fantastic. Trevor does not grab my imagination at low speeds -- he's not that meditative. But he's a high speed trip, no doubt.
jaynote1
10-19-2009, 05:29 PM
yeah, jive, i agree....Cinema is not something Steve Howe would have done....I like Trevor, but for different reasons that i like Steve.....They are both incredible, but in different ways....and Trevor provided the impetus for the album at a time that made sense.......
Imperatrix
10-19-2009, 05:45 PM
I love 90125, except Our Song doesn't really do it for me. I'll still listen to it, though.
My faves are Cinema/Leave It, Changes, Hearts.
Frumious B
10-19-2009, 05:52 PM
90125 has some really nice stuff on it, but it's not my favorite YesWest record. That award goes to Big Generator which I still maintain is the single most underrated entry in the entire Yes catalog. Yep, I even think it is more underrated than Yes and A Time And A Word which are pretty darned underrated as well.
Imperatrix
10-19-2009, 06:02 PM
90125 has some really nice stuff on it, but it's not my favorite YesWest record. That award goes to Big Generator which I still maintain is the single most underrated entry in the entire Yes catalog. Yep, I even think it is more underrated than Yes and A Time And A Word which are pretty darned underrated as well.
I love Shoot High Aim Low and I'm Running so much (actually, I could do without the single little quacky-squeaky noise in IR)!
Michelle Johnston
10-19-2009, 06:33 PM
I think 90125 is a really entertaining and accomplished album. I absolutely adore Trevor Horn's production. I think he makes a good job of keeping Trevors guitar tight and clear sounding. The only time I think Trevor becomes the riffy guitarist is on Changes but he gets away with it by singing the first section as well. If Jon's voice had been there from the start of the song it would have sounded incongruous. I often forget one of the attractions of the music is the incredible corporate vocal performance not just Leave It but Hold On as well.
I never had a problem with the fact that there was no Steve and Rick because I had followed how this came about very closely
Rabin/Squire/White
Chris invited TK and they were to be called Angel Dust spring 82.
Chris invited Trevor Horn to sing, who declined but agreed to produce what was now called Cinema.
Many months of work getting the vast majority of the music in place.
Then finally some rumours and just as Jon released Private Collection with Vangelis spring 1983 the news broke that Yes had reformed with Eddie Jobson on Keyboards. That latter bit throw me but the adverts switched after one week back to TK. No it was perfectly obvious Jon had joined this new band cinema and for very obvious reasons called it Yes.
I remember the first listen of the single and it confirmed what I had suspected this was a new band with no connection to the old I loved it and enjoyed the concert at Wembley where the new material sounded superb. Hold On brought the house down and Alan was absolutely on the money. But having played And You and I and Starship Trooper I came away thinking how do they now deal with the legacy they and in particular Trevor had inherited replace it with more new music?
The answer now is very clear you can not but that does not stop 1984 being a halcyon year for the Yes family.
luna65
10-19-2009, 06:37 PM
I love Shoot High Aim Low and I'm Running so much (actually, I could do without the single little quacky-squeaky noise in IR)!
Tasia, honey, if you're gonna live in my brain just don't open that closet over there. Trust me. ;)
90125yes
10-20-2009, 03:42 AM
Um. Isn't that the song with the lyric "Go go Toledo, Toledo gotta go"?
:D
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that's right
:beerchugr:
90125yes
10-20-2009, 03:45 AM
Hey, it STILL gets radio play!!!!
I couldn't agree more and I will add that when it IS played on the radio, I get this great boost to my day which is often stressful and that kind of smile goes a long way. I mean when you've been on the phone with some people, and get into your car feeling low, and hear that funky drum intro from OOALH, your whole mood can change in the blink of an eye!
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great post
:beerchugr:
90125yes
10-20-2009, 03:46 AM
i agree, 90125yes......Cinema/Leave It, to me, is classic Yes...I had misgivings about the album because Steve Howe wasnt on it, and I felt guilty about liking it....Owner, It Can Happen, Hearts, are all wonderful Yes songs......It came about at a time that I was worried that Yes had dissolved completely....It wasnt the Yes that I was used to, but it was Yes that had a new idea and a new paradigm and a Yes that fit the zeitgeist and was immensely successful.....(it was also the first Yes tour that I saw....)
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great post
:beerchugr:
Borris
10-20-2009, 04:12 AM
That is its only saving grace.
For me,brought up on Classic Yes,90125 was,sadly,the beginning of the end.
I have almost the opposite relationship to this album that Earl has. I liked it when it came out, I had thought Yes were history, this was obviously a very different band and 90125 was kind of novel, overtime it has paled on me, Its OK as background music but I can't sit down and soak it up, and BG and Talk just seemed to me a waste of time. But I love ABWH, Keystudio, The Ladder & Magnification. The beginning of the end for me is the current band sans Jon.
90125 was the first album I ever bought, and my first Yes album. It means a lot to me. It was the beginning of my exploration of Yes world. It took many years to really get to know this band and be lucky enough to see them live.
All of sudden I feel old...
TOBYSGRAPHICGOKART
10-20-2009, 05:21 AM
... this was obviously a very different band...
That's it in a nutshell. It may have featured several former members and (eventually) had Yes on the album cover,but it also had very little to do with the real Yes music that I grew up with and loved with a passion that still hasn't diminished one iota to this day. However,musically,it might as well have been by a different band altogether and of course we all know by now that band was originally to be called Cinema.
But I do acknowledge that it served a purpose. It brought Yes to a whole new generation of people who might otherwise have never gone on to discover the real jewels in their crown.
As far as the likes of BG,Talk and OYE are concerned,well there really was no excuse and site etiquette/rules,etc.,prevent me from saying any more regarding those abominations!
I also agree with you,Borris,about ABWH and the Keystudio albums,whereas I found The Ladder somewhat patchy and Mag ruined by the orchestra and a lack of quality control,i.e. some great songs interspersed with some total dross.
Regarding the current HSW,well I think,from threads elsewhere on this forum,that you and I are pretty much in agreement there,though I am still eagerly looking forward to the upcoming studio effort,should it ever materialise. I have reluctantly accepted that,for any number of reasons,there is very little likelihood of Jon and Wakey ever rejoining Yes on a permanent basis.
90125yes
10-20-2009, 05:28 AM
90125 was the first album I ever bought, and my first Yes album. It means a lot to me. It was the beginning of my exploration of Yes world. It took many years to really get to know this band and be lucky enough to see them live.
All of sudden I feel old...
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don't worry - your not alone !!
:beerchugr:
the greenman
10-20-2009, 06:49 AM
It was great that they had BIG success with this album & got back into the limelight. I joined the yesjourney in the late 70s, via the 'classic' line up, but this seemed perfect for the time. Really ripped it up. When I want to rock out, I'll put on one of the Yeswest trilogy. For all that this was largely Rabin's album, the guys turned it into something special.
90125yes
10-20-2009, 07:50 AM
It was great that they had BIG success with this album & got back into the limelight. I joined the yesjourney in the late 70s, via the 'classic' line up, but this seemed perfect for the time. Really ripped it up. When I want to rock out, I'll put on one of the Yeswest trilogy. For all that this was largely Rabin's album, the guys turned it into something special.
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great post
:beerchugr:
Imperatrix
10-20-2009, 10:09 AM
Tasia, honey, if you're gonna live in my brain just don't open that closet over there. Trust me. ;)
:lmao:
Let's make sure we live in the same retirement facility in later years, OK? :hearts:
bjlevine
10-20-2009, 10:40 AM
90125 was the first album I ever bought, and my first Yes album. It means a lot to me. It was the beginning of my exploration of Yes world. It took many years to really get to know this band and be lucky enough to see them live.
All of sudden I feel old...
90125 was the first album you ever bought and you feel OLD??? To quote Norman Thayer, "Good God!" :winknudge
90125yes
10-20-2009, 10:51 AM
90125 was the first album you ever bought and you feel OLD??? To quote Norman Thayer, "Good God!" :winknudge
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i think our fellow YES fan meant the passing of time etc .......
:beerchugr:
CybrKhatru
10-20-2009, 11:14 AM
I remember when 90125 came out, I was so enamored with Side 1 that it took me MONTHS to flip the record over.
And even then, I don't think I gave tracks like "Hearts" their due until I bought it on CD, which was.... 1986 I think? yikes.
But Side 1 - Owner->Hold On->It Can Happen->Changes.... great stuff. And still is. :D
Borris
10-21-2009, 03:41 AM
That's it in a nutshell. It may have featured several former members and (eventually) had Yes on the album cover,but it also had very little to do with the real Yes music that I grew up with and loved with a passion that still hasn't diminished one iota to this day. However,musically,it might as well have been by a different band altogether and of course we all know by now that band was originally to be called Cinema.
But I do acknowledge that it served a purpose. It brought Yes to a whole new generation of people who might otherwise have never gone on to discover the real jewels in their crown.
As far as the likes of BG,Talk and OYE are concerned,well there really was no excuse and site etiquette/rules,etc.,prevent me from saying any more regarding those abominations!
I also agree with you,Borris,about ABWH and the Keystudio albums,whereas I found The Ladder somewhat patchy and Mag ruined by the orchestra and a lack of quality control,i.e. some great songs interspersed with some total dross.
Regarding the current HSW,well I think,from threads elsewhere on this forum,that you and I are pretty much in agreement there,though I am still eagerly looking forward to the upcoming studio effort,should it ever materialise. I have reluctantly accepted that,for any number of reasons,there is very little likelihood of Jon and Wakey ever rejoining Yes on a permanent basis.
I love to hear you talk of your passion for those classic Yes albums, they do just mature with the years, they are sheer alchemy!
I agree 90125 is a very different beast, it is not a development or even a mutation from earlier Yes it is a graft.
I have noticed that you have an acute allergy to orchestras so could never really like Magnification, the orchestration sounds really inventive to me and in the absence of Rick is much appreciated. It and the Ladder don't bowl one over like classic Yes, but they are truly idiosyncratic and individual albums and I love them.
90125yes
10-21-2009, 04:09 AM
the band was originally to be called cinema before Jon came on board and then it was called YES and what a fine record they produced
not in the classic YES tradition , but still a fine record that brought YES a whole new legion of fans and prolonged their career until the majority of the YES fan base yearned for the return of Howe and Wakeman to the line up
even tony kaye had alluded to the fact that YES needed to return to the classic YES sound
in my opinion other YES west releases don't come near 90125 and please don't hark on about talk - it is good but it does not have the freshness of 90125
if YES released music in 2010 in the style of 90125 , we would not really complain would we ? !
John Khatru
10-26-2009, 12:07 AM
big fan of the 90125 album as well....
it was my first entry to Yes...
I remember buying the 45 within days of first seeing the video for OOALH...
the album itself, I got it that Christmas, and yeah, side 1 got all of the play.. until I saw the crazy video for Leave It
side 2 brought the cool instrumental "Cinema" and the brilliant Hearts
yup... still a great album!!
90125yes
10-26-2009, 04:12 AM
big fan of the 90125 album as well....
it was my first entry to Yes...
I remember buying the 45 within days of first seeing the video for OOALH...
the album itself, I got it that Christmas, and yeah, side 1 got all of the play.. until I saw the crazy video for Leave It
side 2 brought the cool instrumental "Cinema" and the brilliant Hearts
yup... still a great album!!
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love the avitar jon
90125yes
10-28-2009, 08:46 AM
well it is my birthday today and this will be in my car stereo all day
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