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Squireaholic
12-07-2002, 09:01 AM
I wanted to share something that happened recently, in the hopes that you, my fellow Yesfans and musicians, will learn from my experience.

I was contacted the Tuesday night before Thanksgiving by the lead guitarist in the 'Deadhead/jam' band I’ve been playing bass in for the past three years. He told me the band was breaking up; the New Year’s eve gig we had planned had been given to another band for half the price; another gig had been cancelled; etc. etc. I said sorry to hear that, too bad, figures in this economy, let’s get together some other time, yada yada yada.
I bet you can guess what happened next

Two days later, I get a call back from this guy. He starts talking about whay I shouldn’t be in the band anymore, how I’m not playing exactly like Phil Lesh, on and on. I didn’t address the fact that he already had called and told me the band was breaking up (obviously a lie, since he was now calling back and complaining about my playing!). I asked him if he remembered his call to me the day before yesterday. Dead silence. So, I let him off the ‘hook’ he had created; I told him that, despite the fact I had founded the band with him, I didn’t feel I was the right guy to play bass anymore. Done. Turns out the sax player in the band told the guitarist he would quit unless I was called and told the truth: the band is still going, although most (though not all) of the dates had been cancelled, including NYE. I wasn't told the truth, but hey, I can do the math!

Monday at work, I did a little exercise that helped me cope with the feelings of frustration that I understandably had. I wrote a list of all the things about the lead guitarist that had been bothering me. I couldn’t believe how long the list was! Once I reviewed it and the list was complete, I read it through one more time, took a deeeeeep breath, and erased the list. Gone!

Happy ending: I’ve had two gigs with my jazz standards combo (one for the outgoing Gov. and Governor-Elect of Maine!), and I’m trying out for another rock band tomorrow.

Comments on my handling of the situation (come on, tell me how good I am!)? Has something similar happened to you? How did you deal?

Q
12-07-2002, 10:06 AM
The ploy I've seen that I think is the lamest is when the band decides that one guy should go, and instead of just dealing with it, they pretend to break up, and then re-convene without the guy they're trying to ditch ...

yes_angel
12-07-2002, 11:41 AM
Very true!It happened to me with work a job that I had for over 7 years and I was told that the sales were down through out the entire country,so 2 of us were let go and the rest remained with hours cut of course,but I was with the company longer then the rest and found out that they hired a person to take my place! It all worked out in the end and asked myself why would I want to be with such a company like that.I just found out that the entire company has folded.That does not shock me at all but the point is that there is something better in the wings and i'm sure you will do just fine in time.Keep the Faith

illusion
12-07-2002, 02:56 PM
Squireaholic, that really sucks - being thrown out must be pretty devestating (sorry I'm not too good at expressing sympathies, but I am sympathetic). But look on the bright side - you might find a better band to play with.

I'm sure that you will be fine.

Dances w/PURPLE
12-07-2002, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Quantum
The ploy I've seen that I think is the lamest is when the band decides that one guy should go, and instead of just dealing with it, they pretend to break up, and then re-convene without the guy they're trying to ditch ...

Wimps.
Squireholic, I never been in exactly that kind of situation but I think what you did and how you did was "the better man" than what these nimrods did. If you're good, you will get work. You play BASS? BASS??

OK, RIFF..EVERYONE..Join together with me to answer "What instrumentalist in the band is always hardest to find?
ANS: The BASS player!!!!!!!

Squireholic, I think they did YOU a favor. If your list got longer than a few items, chances are they were suppressing you musically and pretty soon you're just strumming along with the creativite life being sucked right out of you. Yeah just smile at them, wave in passing when your new band is headlining a gig and they are one of the warm-ups! Ha. He who laughs last.

Squireaholic
12-09-2002, 06:08 PM
Thanks to everybody who's posted for their support and input. I just tried out for another band yesterday; it went pretty well, and I'm hoping to get the gig and put this stuff in the proper experiencial perspective;) You folks are part of the reason I'm a Yesfan! Thank You again!

Q
12-09-2002, 06:26 PM
Hope it works out!

Q

upbgirl
12-10-2002, 09:16 AM
one of my mom's favorite sayings is "when a door closes, a window opens" and i think your window just opened-time for some 'fresh air', my friend. i played flute thru school from 7th grade on-when i got to high school, i got BOOTED cause the conductor said i wasnt up to the level of the band. [well, duh! i had only been playing HALF as long as everyone else] he sent us [there were a few of us that got booted] back into the practice rooms for the whole marking period, never once coming back to see how or what we were doing. good thing, cause we were partying and listening to records [yes-lp's] and not practicing in those roooms at all. what the other booted band members DIDNT know, was, everynight, i was at home practicing my @ss off. when he called us in to 'audition' for our spots back, i kicked @ss-there were 24 flutes in the band at that time, and in ONE DAY, i went from 22nd chair to 4th chair! he was flabbergasted and so was everyone else, including me-i had a good lip that day i guess..it was a lesson i will NEVER forget-if ya want it bad enough, NO ONE can stop ya!! keep your chin up, bass man-better opportunities coming your way-no doubt..

Byroan
12-10-2002, 10:42 AM
Do what Steve Hackett did, forget about it and go on to make better, more progressive music- and leave 'em in the dust.

Dances w/PURPLE
12-10-2002, 10:56 AM
and...keep us updated Squire. Would love to hear how this plays out.

Squireaholic
12-10-2002, 01:47 PM
The briefest of updates; I didn't get the gig I tied out for. The band said that I had a great atitude and presented myself very professionally, and that if the other guy bowed out, they'd be in touch. Oh well. Thanks for the continuing support, gang!

gt76yesman
12-10-2002, 02:15 PM
Bass players might be the hardest to find, but drummers are the hardest to keep. Always wanting to go off and do something else. In my last two bands the drummer spot has been a revolveing door. Dog Named Blue had 5 drummers in 8 years while everyone else stayed the same. And the last band I was in had several drummers in just over a year.

Squireaholic - Dog Named Blue was a Dead band. Luckily we never tried to 'sound' like the individuals of the Dead. We took the collective idea of how they played the songs. There were times that I would play Bobby's parts on the keyboards or Campbell would sing Jerry or Bobby songs. It did not matter. We were very popular and an excellent Dead band. We tackled all the tough songs (like Slipknot, Terrapin...) The only one we never played that I wanted to play was Estimated, and the person that did not want to play it was the bassist. Go figure.....

I think finding friends to play with is more important than the music, unless you are trying to make your living doing only music. I miss my fellow Dog Named Blue members. We are still good friends but do not see each other much without the band to draw us together.

Play with people you like to be around. :-)

Glendo