Troopers or YES west

[90125yes]

So which YES line up do you like the best ?

Are you for Troopers or YES West ?

When did you get into YES , what was your first record or track ?

I started listening to YES in 1978 and the first track i heared was Yours is no Disgrace

So i have grown up enjoying all eras of YES

what about you ...

[TOBYSGRAPHICGOKART]

Trooper,without doubt. Classic Yes is always best.

Very little YesWest I can listen to.

First heard Yes in 1971. TYA was the second album I ever bought (Trespass-Genesis being the first). YIND was my first Yes experience also-heard that song plus Stagnation (Genesis) plus,if memory serves me well,Tarkus (ELP), all on one fantastic late night Kid Jensen Radio Luxembourg show.My whole musical future was shaped on that one night.

Favourite Yes lineup-the Anderson,Howe,White,Squire,Wakey one.

[90125yes]

..thanks toby

[90125yes]

... good to see that the english are leading the way with this post

[Wakey's #1 Fan]

my first LP was TfTO when I was 11 years old. I also got into Yes because of my Mum, she used to play Yessongs in her car when I was 4. So there's only the classic line-up for me. I'm a real Trooper.

[yesrolfer]

Trooper for sure!

[90125yes]

current score

troopers 4

yest west 0

[SouthSideGuy]

Both.....

[90125yes]

ok sound side guy give us a bit of detail ??

[gitsy]

I got into Yes around 74. A friend played me Close to the Edge a I slowly got into it. First got to them them live at QPR in 75 and have been hooked ever since. I much prefer trooper material but do like some of the west stuff.
I though they were lost to us prior to Keys so I consider ourselves to be lucky that they produced Open you Eyes (well I like it!) The Ladder and Mag. All the tours and some fantastic DVD's over the last decade.

[True Believer]

Trooper, as I first heard The Yes Album in '73. But I also really like (most) of the Rabin era - especially Talk.

[Steve Mahoney]

Trooper by far ,but Love the Rabin , Talk album.

[oliasofsuffolk]

100% Trooper I am afraid. The reason I am 'afraid' is that I've tried so hard to like the other lineup. I bought 90125 of course, listened to it repeatedly, saw them on tour but...

When Big Generator came out I didn't even buy it.

They got me back like many 'Troopers' with KTA and I have thoroughly enjoyed the years 96-2004. It seems now that this may be at an end but I am more than happy really. Keystudio to Magnification IMO is a wonderful addition to the main sequence.

Perhaps it is the turn again of those who love 90125 and Drama. How many shows must they have sat through recently without hearing their favourite tunes!

I first heard Yes in 1977 with Wonderous Stories which was a hit single in the UK but I got into them when someone in my class lent me Yessongs. It was the height of punk and new wave and although I own every record The Clash ever made what Yes were doing on that album seemed even more radical to my listening ears.

Obviously such an opinion has met with ridicule on numerous occasions but as we all know, it's just part of being a Yes fan!

[yarstruly]

I really do like ALL of the Yes line ups...My leaning may be more Trooper, but I go on YesWest binges...I like the banks era stuff too!

[oliasofsuffolk]

.I like the banks era stuff too!

Me too. Survival is one of my favourite Yes songs. And it sure does apply to this band...

[yarstruly]

Me too. Survival is one of my favourite Yes songs. And it sure does apply to this band...


lol...that is one of my least favorite from that period though...I get your sentiment....but Astral Traveller, Beyond & Before, & Then ....Looking Around is another...

[sam]

From what I've heard so far, a trooper. I don't dislike songs such as "Owner of a Lonely Heart", but they don't fire the blood and imagination like "Close to the Edge". It's like taking a Rolls-Royce into the garage and leaving with a Ford Mondeo.
Nothing wrong with a Ford Mondeo, but you'd wonder what happened to your Rolls-Royce.

[crotale2112]

I love every yes album. Not every yes song. My first album was tormoto. I loved it very much and still do. Me and my friend played circus of heaven over and over. So silly.

I also remember trying to play some of the songs like madrigal backwards. At the time I thought all cool rock bands had some kind of secret subliminal communicattion transmitted in the spoken words. No wonder my turn table and the needle took such a beating.
I still play my albums, I find it fun to pull them out, look at the grooves on the vinal..... put it on and FEEL the album in my hands. Unfold the album covors to see the amazing artwork that so meny yes albums have. Even in the center of the LP was cool artwork aswell.

Today everything in music sales feels so synthetic, boring and dry. Going out and getting a yes album was a beautiful ,organic and very analog thing to do. Holding and looking at the tales from topographic oceans vinal album made me feel warm and fuzzy all over. Like a real good book you can't put down.

Hello to all you sweet kindred yes fans. At some point in time there is allway's a "opening flower" some place....... some where....... on this ship some call earth.
crotale

[oliasofsuffolk]

lol...that is one of my least favorite from that period though...I get your sentiment....but Astral Traveller, Beyond & Before, & Then ....Looking Around is another...


All of those are top notch. Of your list my favourites would be Then and Astral Traveller.

I guess with Survival it's the vocal harmonies. Jon and Chris again. One of the major things that I personally like about the band.

Actually if you look at that first album - that photo of Jon and Chris together with everything in front of them - and then play it I think with all that's gone down the last few days it all evaporates and you just think to yourself, what an amazing ride...

Long may it continue.

[YesfanAndy]

I think I fall into the "Universalist" category. I once read that was an accepted term for all of us who like EVERYTHING Yes has done! Although my base of Yes music, fundamentally is Classic Yes. I will always come back to that era first as it was the first era I discovered when I was 15 in 1996. Right as S.L.O. was happening.

Having said that - I get into modes where I'll be into a heavy Yes West period, lots and lots of TALK, 90125 & BIG, (in that order by the way).

Gun to my head - Trooper.

[maninthemoon]

Trooper, without question.

I supported Drama and 90125 as well as ABWH because some form of Yes is better than none, but the songs I love best are from the trooper era. I also prefer the first two albums to the Yeswest stuff, though I do believe Trevor R. is exceptional—I just don't care for many of the songs during those years. They are well done, well produced, but not the "kind" of Yes I love.

[yes372]

See age in my profile. Trooper for me as I heard Yes for the first time in 1971 and was instantly hooked by their sound. They became my favorite band in 1972. However, the YesWest and Panther eras definitely had their moments for me as well. Generally, as long as there are 3 or more members of a given lineup of Yes in the concert arena, I'll be there.

[cinderella]

I'm a Generator (a Rabinite), with a little Trooper on the side.

[YESOLA]

See I would've been a generator, but I couldn't get past Trevor's leather pants.

[maninthemoon]

See I would've been a generator, but I couldn't get past Trevor's leather pants. ;)

I'm sure many off the ladies here are now going to be thinking about getting past Trevor's leather pants.

[cinderella]

I'm sure many off the ladies here are now going to be thinking about getting past Trevor's leather pants.


It's been a lifelong dream. :winknudge



"I try to use the guitar for coloring rather than just to stand up on the podium and play a solo, you know, with my tight leather pants on." ~ Trevor Rabin

[maninthemoon]

It's been a lifelong dream. :winknudge



"I try to use the guitar for coloring rather than just to stand up on the podium and play a solo, you know, with my tight leather pants on." ~ Trevor Rabin

Hahaha! What is life without dreams?

[cinderella]

Hahaha! What is life without dreams?

:winknudge Just very boring reality.

[yarstruly]

All of those are top notch. Of your list my favourites would be Then and Astral Traveller.

I guess with Survival it's the vocal harmonies. Jon and Chris again. One of the major things that I personally like about the band.

Actually if you look at that first album - that photo of Jon and Chris together with everything in front of them - and then play it I think with all that's gone down the last few days it all evaporates and you just think to yourself, what an amazing ride...

Long may it continue.

Yeah... I know that in theory it has all the elements (Survival), but it just doesn't do it for me for whatever reason...I don't dislike it, but it doesn't get to me like some of the others do from that period...

[maninthemoon]

Yeah... I know that in theory it has all the elements (Survival), but it just doesn't do it for me for whatever reason...I don't dislike it, but it doesn't get to me like some of the others do from that period...

I actually like Survival—Everything from the intro to the lyrics to the harmonies, though it's not my fav from that era

[90125yes]

thanks for your posts so far folks

interesting one from Crotale 2112 , he mentions tormoto

is that a new album ?

[IAMED2]

Both, undoubtedly. I even like how Rabin plays some of the old stuff (notably "I've Seen All Good People") better than how Steve Howe plays it. I still love it all though.

I do have to say though, if I hadn't seen 9012live (DVD) then I wouldn't have liked YesWest nearly as much as I like everything else.

Oh yeah, 2008 for me :) Started with Roundabout, didn't like the new stuff until I heard Leave It, then I saw the aforementioned DVD and now I'm a fan of all of it.

[90125yes]

thanks to everyone for posting

[90125yes]

thanks to all for their contribution

[witeskyn7]

thanks for your posts so far folks

interesting one from Crotale 2112 , he mentions tormoto

is that a new album ?

No, Tormato was released in 1978.

As with Crotale2112, this also was my 1st ever yes album.
I actually won it at a fair while visiting family in Seattle,WA. at the age 14.

The 1st I ever heard YES was when I was 8 yrs.old, Roundabout came on the radio, and I even sang along.

YESSONGS was the 2nd and from then on, I was hooked!!

AS for your main question, I like it all!

(Though I am more of a trooper.)

[relayerjim]

....Trooper
Yes in the 70's was something else

[90125yes]

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[90125yes]

thanks everyone for your contribution

[90125yes]

classic YES wins

[90125yes]

it would be good for more YES fans to comment

[Meng]

I'm a Trooper and a Panther.

The difference is this: the Rabin stuff's ok, but if it wasn't there I wouldn't miss it. The only live tour I didn't see (out of choice) was 90125 - just wasn't interested. I only got the DVD for the extras.

[Jackaranda]

I like all of the past line ups, although I'm still undecided about the current one.

[yesrolfer]

I like all of the past line ups, although I'm still undecided about the current one.

I can assure you that you will love the show in Cincinnati. We had a great time in Baltimore Sunday!

[rikensquire]

[QUOTE=Meng;1632200]I'm a Trooper and a Panther.:headset:
That makes you a middle-aged horny woman, doesn't it?

As long as they never head into the rap genre, the changes have never thrown me off the horse. Rabin was a fantastic influence on the band, at that time, he was a tremendous infusion of light. Dynamics, other than complicated guitar pieces happened. Steve tried to be a hard rocker on Drama, that only really worked when he was in Asia.

[Meng]

That makes you a middle-aged horny woman, doesn't it?
I am Meng. Hear me roar!!

[Rocksurfer]

I've enjoyed Yes since Roundabout, I would have been about 13/14 so I'd be a Trooper, but I have enjoyed every lineup of the band. There has always been the talk of there being a Yes lineup till the end of time. Well I'm OK with that and the current lineup is showing that the principle members need not be there. I think the biggest issue with Yes continuing without Jon or Chris has been the biggest sticking point but if this lineup is good it will show that they can continue without them. So I say play on boys, I enjoy the Troopers best but as long as it sounds like them I'll enjoy what they have created over the years.

[90125yes]

good post rocksurfer

[BRINGRABINBACK]

I've learned to like all forms of Yes.
90125 was the first for me. I wore out 3 copies of it on vinyl. Without that one I would have NEVER listened to Yes.

[BRINGRABINBACK]

Didn't they do a rap break on "It Can Happen?"
[quote=Meng;1632200]I'm a Trooper and a Panther.:headset:
That makes you a middle-aged horny woman, doesn't it?

As long as they never head into the rap genre, the changes have never thrown me off the horse. Rabin was a fantastic influence on the band, at that time, he was a tremendous infusion of light. Dynamics, other than complicated guitar pieces happened. Steve tried to be a hard rocker on Drama, that only really worked when he was in Asia.

[luna65]

That makes you a middle-aged horny woman, doesn't it?
That's a cougar, not a panther. ;)

I like all eras, mostly, although my special affection is reserved for the Troopers line-up and YesWest.

[inside_out]

Trooper. Jon sings and I follow. It's not intentional on my part, it just has happened that way. My record collection cannot lie.

[Dramato]

Once and future Trooper

[Soundchaser_413]

I like both eras. I got into Yes around 1984 so the first Yes I really got into(and bought with my own money)was 90125. Because of that I have a soft spot for Yes west. I still like the classic era ofcourse and over all prefer the 70's albums over the later stuff but I still like the Trevor Rabin years( I didn't see Yes until 1987). On the Union album I would say I probably prefer the Yes west tracks over the other ones but then again the whole project was convoluted and corrupted anyway. Politics aside I still like most of the music on that one though.

[90125yes]

I like both eras. I got into Yes around 1984 so the first Yes I really got into(and bought with my own money)was 90125. Because of that I have a soft spot for Yes west. I still like the classic era ofcourse and over all prefer the 70's albums over the later stuff but I still like the Trevor Rabin years( I didn't see Yes until 1987). On the Union album I would say I probably prefer the Yes west tracks over the other ones but then again the whole project was convoluted and corrupted anyway. Politics aside I still like most of the music on that one though.
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thanks - and thanks for carrying the thread on

:beerchugr:

[BlankReg]

Ok, I'll chime in. I'm a YesWhole! I love all eras of Yes - really, I do. I can be equally moved by Tales, Relayer, CttE, 90125, Talk, etc. Often my mood will dictate what album I go to. If I'm in a deep, reflective mood or just wanting to hear music that challenges me I'll go to something Tales or Relayer. If I'm more light-hearted I hit the Rabin-era stuff or late 70s & Drama. But I have the entire catalog on my iPhone, so often I set it to shuffle and dig whatever comes on. That's one of the things I adore about Yes - here we have a band that has hit so many styles that whatever mood I'm in, there's something that fits it like a glove. I love this band!

[90125yes]

Ok, I'll chime in. I'm a YesWhole! I love all eras of Yes - really, I do. I can be equally moved by Tales, Relayer, CttE, 90125, Talk, etc. Often my mood will dictate what album I go to. If I'm in a deep, reflective mood or just wanting to hear music that challenges me I'll go to something Tales or Relayer. If I'm more light-hearted I hit the Rabin-era stuff or late 70s & Drama. But I have the entire catalog on my iPhone, so often I set it to shuffle and dig whatever comes on. That's one of the things I adore about Yes - here we have a band that has hit so many styles that whatever mood I'm in, there's something that fits it like a glove. I love this band!

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great post - a rep coming your way


:beerchugr:

[Imperatrix]

Troopantherator.

[Gemini]

Trooper since 1973, but I'm open to much of the YESWest stuff. Truth be told, I dropped out for stretches and am unfamiliar with a lot of transitional works even to this day.

[Gemini]

Ok, I'll chime in. I'm a YesWhole! I love all eras of Yes - really, I do. I can be equally moved by Tales, Relayer, CttE, 90125, Talk, etc. Often my mood will dictate what album I go to. If I'm in a deep, reflective mood or just wanting to hear music that challenges me I'll go to something Tales or Relayer. If I'm more light-hearted I hit the Rabin-era stuff or late 70s & Drama. But I have the entire catalog on my iPhone, so often I set it to shuffle and dig whatever comes on. That's one of the things I adore about Yes - here we have a band that has hit so many styles that whatever mood I'm in, there's something that fits it like a glove. I love this band!I'll buy that. :beerchugr:

[Dyafornothing]

Well, I have to say that there's always something to like from every line-up, every era of Yes. Nevertheless, I would prefer to listen to Classic Yes, especially since the first Yes album that I bought on my own was The Yes Album. I bought it in 1996 and was amazed by the meanderings of Yours Is No Disgrace, Starship Trooper, and Perpetual Change. It was the album that effectively made me a prog rock fan (and not Dream Theater, sorry, which was actually more suitable for my age) because back then I thought Genesis only had their "Invisible Touch" and the first ELP album that I listened to in its entirety was Black Moon. Nevertheless, again, Yes was first introduced to me by my father (and my uncle, also) through 90125 (my uncle even lent me 9012Live).

Strangely, this introduction (and further ado with Big Generator and Talk) did not seem to leave a significant trace on my consciousness. After that, it was all my fascination to Jon's singing and rather abstract lyrics, Steve's meandering solos, Rick's nigh-unbelievable and magical keyboard work, Chris's astounding pounding bass lines, and Bill's (insert any adjective that is synonymous to amazing here) drumming. I enjoy the first two albums as well and find my personal favourites there. I also enjoy Tony Kaye's playing as he was also a fitting keyboard player for Yes and Alan White is of course a VERY GOOD drummer, but when you were an aspiring drummer, you always wanted to know what Bill Bruford was doing with his set.

And I hope this isn't too long. Thanks.

[Frumious B]

I'm a fan of every Yes lineup that has made an album together to date except for the Union lineup, but it is very arguable that the Union lineup never actually made an album. The first Yes album I ever bought was Big Generator.

[90125yes]

I'm a fan of every Yes lineup that has made an album together to date except for the Union lineup, but it is very arguable that the Union lineup never actually made an album. The first Yes album I ever bought was Big Generator.

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but jon is on union ??

[90125yes]

but jon is on union frumious !!


and it is a welding of YESWEST and ABWH


there is some great material on it

[tidewater]

My Avatar says it all!!!!

TROOPER and proud of it.:headset:

But....I do enjoy some of the newer material.I LOVE Magnification,and some songs on Talk.I have embraced the current lineup,although I pray for Jon and Rick's return.

C

[90125yes]

My Avatar says it all!!!!

TROOPER and proud of it.:headset:

But....I do enjoy some of the newer material.I LOVE Magnification,and some songs on Talk.I have embraced the current lineup,although I pray for Jon and Rick's return.

C

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good post


:beerchugr:

[steve71]

My first exposure to Yes was an extremely hacked to bits 9012Live on BBC1 circa '86. The next day I went out and bought 90125 and The Yes Album. Within a year or two I had all the albums and have stayed up to date since. I cant say I am a Trooper or a Generator, I love all eras and there is at least one track on every album that draws me back for a repeated listen. I could do without some of the politics but I guess that comes with the territory!

[Old Michael]

In the summer of 75 I was 19 years old, and already had a copy of Wakeman's 2 A&M solo albums. A friend loaned me a copy of Yes's triple live album and Genesis's live album. For the most part, I went the Genesis route and have stayed with them to today. But, I kept going back to Yes, too, to drink a little deeper from the progressive well.

It's probably heresy around here to say this, and it's not that I'm a fence sitter, it's just that I like plenty of Yes music from all eras, and there's a bit from all eras that I don't like, too. I also enjoy West interpretations of Trooper songs. (Is this the part where I put on my helmet and duck for cover?) It's a pity that the new Keys material never got much attention.

[90125yes]

In the summer of 75 I was 19 years old, and already had a copy of Wakeman's 2 A&M solo albums. A friend loaned me a copy of Yes's triple live album and Genesis's live album. For the most part, I went the Genesis route and have stayed with them to today. But, I kept going back to Yes, too, to drink a little deeper from the progressive well.

It's probably heresy around here to say this, and it's not that I'm a fence sitter, it's just that I like plenty of Yes music from all eras, and there's a bit from all eras that I don't like, too. I also enjoy West interpretations of Trooper songs. (Is this the part where I put on my helmet and duck for cover?) It's a pity that the new Keys material never got much attention.

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welcome to yesfans

:beerchugr:

[luckeydoug1]

In the summer of 75 I was 19 years old, and already had a copy of Wakeman's 2 A&M solo albums. A friend loaned me a copy of Yes's triple live album and Genesis's live album. For the most part, I went the Genesis route and have stayed with them to today. But, I kept going back to Yes, too, to drink a little deeper from the progressive well.

It's probably heresy around here to say this, and it's not that I'm a fence sitter, it's just that I like plenty of Yes music from all eras, and there's a bit from all eras that I don't like, too. I also enjoy West interpretations of Trooper songs. (Is this the part where I put on my helmet and duck for cover?) It's a pity that the new Keys material never got much attention.

Well, ol brother of mine, liking all eras of Yes music makes you a Yes-Whole or Yes-hole :winknudge

Welcome to Yesfans, and thanks for getting me hooked on YES!

[Roan's Lady]

In the summer of 75 I was 19 years old, and already had a copy of Wakeman's 2 A&M solo albums. A friend loaned me a copy of Yes's triple live album and Genesis's live album. For the most part, I went the Genesis route and have stayed with them to today. But, I kept going back to Yes, too, to drink a little deeper from the progressive well.

It's probably heresy around here to say this, and it's not that I'm a fence sitter, it's just that I like plenty of Yes music from all eras, and there's a bit from all eras that I don't like, too.

Hardly. Plenty of people here feel the way you do.
Welcome! :D

[gitsy]

In the summer of 75 I was 19 years old, and already had a copy of Wakeman's 2 A&M solo albums. A friend loaned me a copy of Yes's triple live album and Genesis's live album. For the most part, I went the Genesis route and have stayed with them to today. But, I kept going back to Yes, too, to drink a little deeper from the progressive well.

It's probably heresy around here to say this, and it's not that I'm a fence sitter, it's just that I like plenty of Yes music from all eras, and there's a bit from all eras that I don't like, too. I also enjoy West interpretations of Trooper songs. (Is this the part where I put on my helmet and duck for cover?) It's a pity that the new Keys material never got much attention.

It's all good it's just that some is less good than others. Welcome.

[Roan's Lady]

It's all good it's just that some is less good than others.

Who are you, George Orwell?

It's not "all good". Some of it is (are you sitting down?) "really not so good". :eek:

[Squireaholic]

Let's run this one up the 'Yeswholepole' and see who shoots!
Even though he did only one release with Yes, Pat Moraz was, in my NSHO, the best keyboardist after 'Sensei' Wakeman. I saw the Yes-Moraz line up several times in the NYC area; among the best concerts ever. Moraz' work with films and many other artists in the last 35 years really makes me wish for a Return to the Center of Moraz (sorry, couln't help myself!). Maybe The young Mr. W should take a break, and Pat can do some dates; I would hope he'd be willing to do some Drama; he'd certainly add to it for us fans if he came aboard! Hell, I'll go further: How about a prog keyboard duo tour with Rick and Pat; hey, since I'm dreaming in 5-D, make it a Rick-Keith-Pat 3-key concert!? If Elton and Billy can, why not our guys?!

[somissound]

Who are you, George Orwell?

It's not "all good". Some of it is (are you sitting down?) "really not so good". :eek:

I'd say for how many albums and songs they have done, they have one of the best catalogues available! I like stuff from every Yes incarnation... I like all the lineup changes, that is what has kept their music growing and kept me interested... Nothing worse than a band that always repeats themselves and won't try new things...imo

Then again, I like "Aliens"... I think the vocal, bass line, melody, and piano part are beautiful, strange, and different! So I have no credibility and most of you must think I'm insane. :crazy:

[Roan's Lady]

I'd say for how many albums and songs they have done, they have one of the best catalogues available! I like stuff from every Yes incarnation... I like all the lineup changes, that is what has kept their music growing and kept me interested... Nothing worse than a band that always repeats themselves and won't try new things...imo

I totally agree, which is one reason I've bowed out of seeing them on this latest tour.

Then again, I like "Aliens"... I think the vocal, bass line, melody, and piano part are beautiful, strange, and different! So I have no credibility and most of you must think I'm insane. :crazy:

I think it's your opinion and one I don't agree with - but I certainly don't think you're insane. :D

[The Ancient]

I'm a Trooper. Became a Yes fan in 1971 when I stumbled across The Yes Album. My favorite line-up is the Fragile/CTTE lineup. Bruford is the big hero. Really love 70s Yes. All of it. I thought Tormato was the first album not to impress me. The first step down. Not bad, just the first step down. With Drama I kind of lost interest a bit.
Unlike RoansLady I went to see the 90125 show. I shouldn't have. I completely lost it, sorry to say. I started a renewing interest when I accidentaly heard about the AWBH album. I liked it. But then came Union. Say what you will about Trevor Rabin, but in the 80s and 90s he was the creative force behind Yes. The only decent tracks on Union are Trevor's. Much of the 80s and 90s stuff, I still find embarassing. But there are exceptions. I renewed interest in Yes with Ladder, which I thought was pretty good, and the last 10 years, I have been as much a Yes fan as I ever was. I liked Magnification and can't wait to hear more from Yes. As I'm a trooper, I hope for a great mix of electric and accoustic, with lots of piano, organ and moog by Rick. Not the ugly synths sounds that ruined most of the 80s and 90s for me.

[somissound]

I totally agree, which is one reason I've bowed out of seeing them on this latest tour.

:D

Did you see them perform the Drama stuff and Astral Traveler on any of their recent tours? That was not repeating themselves and was a real treat... imo

[CybrKhatru]

I like music.