what former member do you want to rejoin [Archive]

Dragonfly

10-09-2002, 07:25 PM

First, Bill Bruford. I loved the UNION tour and how amazing Alan and Bill sounded together.

Second, Trevor Rabin - with Steve still in the lineup, too. No one's done a decent job replacing him on his songs. I'd like to hear his songs live again. Also, "Awaken" never came off better than on the UNION tour. The current lineup's brilliance was (surprisingly) improved with the addition of Bill and, in particular, Trevor Rabin. His additions in the mid-section and during the closing sequence brought this already stellar work to a new high!

Third, Billy Sherwood. I'm less interested in him as an auxiliary guitarist and more as a back-up vocalist. The OPEN YOUR EYES album has some of the best vocal harmonies ever to come out of the band. Likewise, the OPEN YOUR EYES and THE LADDER tours had stronger vocals. It was not uncommon to hear Billy covering Chris's harmony lines at least as well as Chris originally did them. Contrary to this, however, is the fact that Trevor Rabin's vocals worked very well in the band, too, but there's no point economizing while posting your fantasy!

Lastly, Tony Levin. He may not have been paid or billed as an official member, but ANDERSON BRUFORD WAKEMAN HOWE and UNION would have been much weaker without him. Anyone familiar with King Crimson's THRaK era will know that Tony works brilliantly with other bassists. He could use his chapman stick to fill in new areas while letting Chris maintain his position (musically speaking). If you thought Alan and Bill sounded great together, just think of the possibilities with Chris and Tony. Wow!

Dragonfly :fly:

I couldn't fit Peter Banks in there and I'm not sure why. I loved his work in the late 80s. INSTINCT is a beautiful album and his cover of "Astral Traveler" on the TALES FROM YESTERDAY tribute album was brilliant.

O.K., so we'll make it an even 10!

. :guitar: :band: :clap: :band: :keyboard: :guitar: :D

O.K. What about [b]Patrick Moraz? Even Igor couldn't cover his work perfectly (though he did a damned fine job.) O.K. Squeeze him up there, too!

nzyesfan

10-10-2002, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by yessongs72
NO ONE, CURRENT LINE UP IS FINE WITH ME, UNLESS WE COULD SEE ALL OF MAGNIFICATION WITH THE ORCHESTRA, ALONG WITH RICK!

Yeah. Bring back the Youth Orchestra from the Amsterdam DVD!

paul

Cerberus

10-18-2002, 09:30 PM

Man... , Tony Levin... Now theres one dude that shakes the building whenever he plays. I think hes with one Peter Gabriel as we speak. Shaking his Tree if you will! Hehehehe!!!:D

DaKrzFkr

11-09-2002, 11:24 PM

Hey Cerberus...scratch that itch man!!!

:sneaky:

1yesfan

11-10-2002, 08:59 AM

Yea bring back the Orch from the DVD!!!!

I would like to see Rabin back in the fold!

PeterCologne

11-10-2002, 08:37 PM

...I want Trevor back. But it should be a real Trevor Rabin-inspired Album, a new vison of Talk or Big Generator. Give Trevor a chance for two more albums, then Steve could take over again. Ok, I know, it is not realistic, because they are getting older and older. But at least one more Rabin-Yes should be.

Number two is Billy Sherwood: He could be a great keyboard-player in Yes. I love his work on Open your Eyes an his Solo-Album The Big Peace: Technically brilliant, complex, modern, warm, great sound-colours... More like Moraz than Wakeman, but different enough.

Greetings
Peter

hypatiamarshall

11-10-2002, 10:15 PM

The ideal band???

Jon
Chris
Steve or Trevor
Moraz
Bruford

Ooooh, that was difficult! I would prefer Moraz to join over anyone, and Bill second. I thought Bill's playing was delicate and mezmerizing.

jan in erie co

PeterCologne

11-12-2002, 06:19 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by hypatiamarshall
[B]The ideal band???

Squire
Anderson
Howe
Sherwood (keys)
White

or:
Squire
Anderson
Rabin
Sherwood (keys)
White

or:
Squire
Anderson
Rabin
Wakeman (Rabin would take care, that he plays cool)
White

or:

Squire
Anderson
Howe
Moraz
White

I think Alan is the better drummer for Yes. As Chris once said, Alan can play all the tricky stuff Bill does, but has more energy.
Bill has a great own style, but to me sounds a little too thin.

Greetings
Peter

Jackaranda

11-29-2002, 06:28 PM

Is it my imagination or are people more sympathetic toward Rabin nowadays????

Rabin coming back would mean a bright future as a Yes fan...

11-30-2002, 10:42 AM

I agree, jack, that the Howe Snobs seem to be in remission, the current tour notwithstanding.

I think we've just had a dismal year in the pop-rock marketplace, and perhaps there's a resurgence of appreciation for the heroes of old, particularly those with broad appeal - which Yes has, when you consider the entire canon ...

PeterCologne

11-30-2002, 11:10 AM

... and it is a good thing. Hopefully the band will take notice of that. I think, one main reason, why Yes ist still alive and well, is the shot of new energy and new creativity, Rabin gave Yes. They learned, that it is more fun to keep on beeing adventureous. And albums like Open your Eyes, The Ladder and even more Magnification have that spirit in them. And I find some hints of Trevor even in Mag, some fragments in the arrangement, maybe the instrumental interplays in Spirit of Survival or Dreamtime.

And I hope very much, that the band will be as consequent with the next album.

By the way, Quantum, "Howe-Snobs" is a nice phrase.

Greetings

Peter

Jackaranda

11-30-2002, 07:03 PM

All I can say for this household is that if Rabin DID come back, we'd literally have a house full of Yes fans. As it stand now, we have 2, sometimes 3.

This family here just loves the Rabin-era Yes...I wish the band could see that, and there are others out there just like us......

S.praematurus

12-01-2002, 07:00 PM

Given that Squire and White were in every show I saw (was Howe in OYE?), here are my thoughts.

I saw Drama, so I've seen Downes and Horn.
Saw OYE, so I saw Sherwood and Koroshev.
Now I've seen Magnification, so I've seen Wakeman.

Although I believe Tony Kaye was in the band when I first heard Yes, who I haven't seen that I'd really like to see would be Bruford. I think, while this lineup is superb, I'd just like to see Anderson, Howe, Squire, Wakeman and Bruford. I agree that White is more powerful, I just have never seen Bruford, and it would be a delight.

Not the jazz lover on this site.

BTW, what's the difference between a Trooper and a Yeswest? Is it those who were initiated before Rabin? Thanx!

PeterCologne

12-01-2002, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by S.praematurus
I just have never seen Bruford, and it would be a delight.

... I saw him with Anderson Bruford Wakeman and Howe and on the Union-tour, where he concentrated more on electronic percusssions, whereas Alan did more of the beats.
I just prefer Alan. I think, he gives the band more drive and vibrations, but has also the virtuosity of Bill. But, as most thinks, it is a matter of taste.

Bill strength to me is his very own style, playing off-beats f.e.. Just in case you don't know about his own work, I recommend the first two of his "Bruford"-albums, Feels Good To me and One Of A Kind. Thrilling jazz-rock, that still sounds fresh.

I try a explanation of Troopers/Yes-West. Troopers seem to be the ones, that stick to the Yes with Steve Howe, to the songs of the seventies, but also the stuff on from Keys To Ascension. They just don't like, what Trevor Rabin did with the band, The Yes-West, so called, because with Rabin Yes became an american band, live there, record the music there...

But, as I would see myself more or less as Yes-West-orientated, I have to say, it is a quite relative thing. I don't know, if there is one Yes-West-Fan, that doesn't go wild for Steve Howe-Yes-music too. I grew up with the great Yes-music of the seventies (those wonderfull albums like Tales and Relayer). Then Trevor came and did some - as I think - equally good albums with Yes.

Greetings to Indiana, Patricia

Peter

ycantibu

12-02-2002, 11:28 AM

Peter's explanation was pretty good. I would consider myself a YesWest fan. I like some Trooper music, but Rabin era is my fave.

S.praematurus

12-02-2002, 01:04 PM

I guess I'm more of a Trooper then, but I do own and play Rabin-era stuff. I especially like the song Walls from Talk. Yes is my very most favorite band, no doubt about it, so I do like it all. But my initiation was in the early 70s, and that music does remain closest to my heart.

Thanx for helping me out with that!

yeseyes

12-10-2002, 03:57 AM

Why go out for hamburger, when you have steak at home.

Howe forever.

Mark

PeterCologne

12-10-2002, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by yeseyes
Why go out for hamburger, when you have steak at home.

Howe forever.

Mark

...you don't have so much fine things to choose as I have. Sometimes I eat my tasteful howe-made-steak, sometimes I choose the pleasures of a delicious rabin-roast. And I can't say, which one tastes better.

But tastes are different, if you are happy with your stake day by day, that is fine.

Greetings

Peter

Sheerah

12-11-2002, 03:08 AM

Howe steak, with a side of Bruford baked beans, please!

Ryan

01-06-2004, 06:03 PM

my favorite yes line up was the one they had back on fragile, CTTE, and tales.

Jon, Steve, Rick, Chris, and Bill.

although I am also quite fond of Alan White and Patrick Moraz.

closetotheedge

01-07-2004, 10:48 AM

Bill Brufford would be the only one

JaneEyre

01-07-2004, 12:48 PM

What former member do I want to rejoin? Isn't it obvious? I loved seeing Trevor and Chris on stage together.

JudysTrevor

01-07-2004, 09:43 PM

Trevor of course!! My lineup.

Trevor
Jon
Chris
Alan
Rick

To have Trevor and Rick in the band at the same time, would really be cool. What those two could have added to new songs. I hope one day it will happen. Yes needs to ROCK again!! ;)

Judy
:guitar:

JaneEyre

01-08-2004, 09:54 AM

[QUOTE=JudysTrevor]Trevor of course!! QUOTE]

Judy and I will leave our real lives behind, become professional groupies, and follow the band around the country, nay, the world! Mmmmmm.....groupies....

01-08-2004, 09:56 AM

There is no question but that Trevor-Rick is the one unfulfilled combination of talents in Yes that bears the most promise.

We may never see it ... but we can dream ...

IsabellaCapobianc

01-23-2004, 04:09 PM

Bring all of them back so they can do another Union Tour. I would like to see Jon ,Trevor, Steve ,Alan,Chris,Tony Ect. Ect. And so on. Isabella

the'YES'kid

02-03-2004, 04:27 AM

Maybe they can get him to drop his lawsuit against them.

What lawsuit? Tell be about it.

the'YES'kid

02-03-2004, 04:37 AM

There is no question but that Trevor-Rick is the one unfulfilled combination of talents in Yes that bears the most promise.

We may never see it ... but we can dream ...

Have you guys heard the song Trevor & Rick did in 1999 "Never is a Long, Long Time"?
(from the album "Return to the Centre of the Earth" http://www.rwcc.com/rwcc/code/title_detail.asp?int_titleID=103)
Is awesome!!!!!

About The Round

02-03-2004, 05:12 AM

I´m a Trooper and the current line-up is the best you can get. Bruford with his style of the seventies – could easily have been added here. Nowadays his style won´t blend with the others unless you call it Bruford´s YES!

Andersonic

02-03-2004, 05:46 AM

exactly, although Bruford hates being called 'the drummer of Yes' but he gets some media and fan attention for that fact. I hope he is happy with his Earthworls and other projects but I would not support a comeback to Yes. The line-up of today is strong enough...

I do think that when Yes will finally disband they will serve us a special treat with Re-Union or Union II and for that mr. Bruford is welcome.

I would like to see all former members come in actually and play a chronological set of songs, how's that for a treat? Jon would be on stage for 4 and half hours...and I think he won't have that big a problem with it if not too many shows are scheduled next to each other, say two in a week...

ASeasonedWitch

02-17-2004, 05:04 PM

My personal dream lineup would be:

Jon
Chris
Pat Moraz
Alan White
Steve Howe
Bill Bruford
Rick

That gives the best of everything they've done. On the Magnification stuff, it would be great to hear Rick playing the orchestral parts, and Pat playing his sort of synth lines. I think that the 2 of them would really compliment each other well; Rick of course coming from the classical background, and Pat from the jazz background. Honestly, I don't understand how so many can be more into YesWest than the Troopers. I got into Yes first in 2002, and I've just never liked any of the Rabin material (except for leave it, which is the only 80s tune I like.) The records made from 70-78 are IMO the best records ever made by anybody, CTTE and Relayer being the best.

my 2 cents...

-Bill

Jacaranda

02-18-2004, 01:54 AM

I couldn't agree more with the Rick-Trevor combo. Like I said before, have Chris join them and call them "Cinema" so Trevor doesn't have to put up with Jon.

J

HighTheMemory

03-04-2004, 08:48 AM

This question is rather easy to me. Definitely the Fragile/Close to The Edge lineup. (referring to Jon, Steve, Chris, BILL, and Rick). Bill Bruford was the reason I picked up the sticks, and hearing him play Yes music through the ABWH and Union period (however those electronic drums fit awesome with Heart Of The Sunrise) didnt do him justice. I think he said it best in the Perpetual change book "For the Union tour, I was there for decorative purposes only. One article quoted that Alan was the meat and I was the hollandaise sauce." It went something like that, and I feel that holds very true, he added some great SOUND EFFECTS to the Union Lineup anyway. But since he doesnt use them anymore, and went to a more conventional Tama Jazz setup, he can play those songs as if he actually contributed to them, which, of course, he did.

ELLIS

12-22-2004, 11:55 AM

I would like to see Rabin play on the next tour - with Steve.

12-22-2004, 05:29 PM

I would love to see Patrick Moraz for a couple of tours and, absolutely the most cool thing in the history of cool things, another album. The Relayer lineup has got at least another great album in them, even if it has been 30 years.

There is a fluke threashold, where if it is a fluke, it can only be so great, and Relayer far, far, far surpasses that threashold.

12-22-2004, 05:50 PM

Yes, Moraz, for sure. He actually ADDED to and expanded the sound of Yes. Rabin didn't add much. It was different and much less progressive. The band then diminished the use of keyboards.

Moraz's inclusion didn't alienate many fans at all. The long-term success of Relayer proves it.

And keep Alan. Yes's best work wasn't dependant on Bruford.

Timmo

12-22-2004, 05:54 PM

I've always said that if I could alter one part of Yes history, it would be to have the boys have given us one more studio album with Moraz, between Relayer and Going for the One.

Alex

12-22-2004, 05:56 PM

moraz for wakeman

cinderella

12-22-2004, 06:01 PM

Rabin didn't add much.

He did so.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Cinderella528/N99/Trishrazberry.gif

Timmo

12-22-2004, 06:02 PM

Did NOT!

LOL.

12-22-2004, 06:11 PM

:stick:
:Itchscrat:
:quite:
:1svader:

:D

cinderella

12-22-2004, 06:32 PM

I hate both of you.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Cinderella528/N99/maikwhip.gif

ELLIS

12-23-2004, 05:16 AM

Rabin DID give them Owner, which they needed at the time IMHO. Moraz didn't.

Having said that, if TR didn't come back, then I'd vote for Pat. Then we'd definitly get Soundchaser!

satyam

12-23-2004, 07:00 AM

Bring back Trevor Rabin and Tony Kaye to the existing fold no one could do justice to Rabin's work and Tony's hammond work and sound is unmatched (sorry Rick)
I am so tired of everyone giving Tony such a hard time especially for his contribution during tje Rabin years my advice is to listen to the first 3 yes albums

ELLIS

12-23-2004, 05:41 PM

I coulsn't agree more. I'd forgotten about Tony. His work on those albums - particularly TAAW - was brilliant! I'm sure he played on Bowie's Station - station album and the piano playing was fantastic! And I like what he did on Big Generator and Miracle of Life on Union.
I'm not saying I'd like him back, but if a change happened involving Rick I think I would prefer Tony to Pat. But would Tony play any Relayer material?

12-23-2004, 06:32 PM

rickweber

12-24-2004, 07:22 AM

Patrick added a lot to Relayer. He was a great talent for Yes. I'd like to see Patrick back with them again. I'm quite content with the way things are. A new Yes album doesn't happen over night - but I'm sure something's coming. The current line up seems to work best, with Rick. So, we'll see what happens.

rickweber

12-24-2004, 07:28 AM

It's OK to disagree on weather or not Trevor Rabin was a good addition to Yes. But lets do so without calling each other names. The same with Drama - some like it, some don't. And that's OK with me.

Alex

12-24-2004, 09:15 AM

Rabin DID give them Owner, which they needed at the time IMHO. Moraz didn't.

Having said that, if TR didn't come back, then I'd vote for Pat. Then we'd definitly get Soundchaser!
WHICH ONE WOULD WE RATHER HEAR?? OWNER OR SOUNDCHASER???? SOUNDCHASER!!!!!

Roan's Lady

12-24-2004, 09:43 AM

I would love to see a return of Patrick Moraz. I think the success of Relayer - or at least this gal's appreciation of it - was largely due to him. Imagine what another Yes album with his influence and playing could sound like? Wouldn't mind seeing (hearing) Bruford on this same album.

flep

12-24-2004, 10:52 AM

I'd love to see Patrick Moraz.

I didn't get into Relayer first time round as I was (and still am) a big Wakeman fan, but when I bought Relayer on CD 2 years ago "Gates" just blew me away.

So if Rick left I'd love to see Moraz back in the fold.

rememberer

12-24-2004, 11:00 AM

I'd love to see Patrick return anytime Rick can't be had. Not knocking Tom Brislin any but this thread is really making me wish Pat had done the symphonic gigs. There was Gates all ready and waiting for him...

ELLIS

12-25-2004, 08:40 AM

After more listens to my older albums I have FINALLY come to the conclusion that Tony was best on the organ, but Pat was best on other keys. So yes I'm sure now that Pat would be better. I'm sure I read in Cris Welch's book CTTE that after Rick left in'97 that Steve wanted Pat - who was in favour of the idea - but Jon wanted someone new. I bet he wishes he'd listened to Steve! But then Rick wouldn't have come back, would he?
Anyway, lets enjoy the classic line-up while its here, and hope for a new album sometime in the new year. Plus all the other projects. This time next year there should be a lot more music to reflect on.

Hill St.

01-09-2005, 01:05 AM

The current line-up works just fine.To add someone is adding another ego.Not needed.If I had to choose one to not invite.It would be, Trevor.We do not need more mainstream 80's crap

Timmo

01-09-2005, 01:58 AM

I'd love to see Moraz on keys again.

BUT...

Despite the fantasticness that was "Relayer," Patrick never quite worked with the rest of the band. So unless they can get past what didn't work in the first place, I'm not too keen on his return. And not that I'm not DROOLING at the possibility of another "Relayer," as I still feel it's the best thing the boys have ever released, but somehow I doubt thtat lightning would strike the same place twice.

01-09-2005, 03:26 AM

Wasn't the issue with Patrick a language thing? I would think that after 10 years with the Moody Blues and the fact that he was in Yes in his early days out of Switzerland or Sweden or wherever, that would be less of a problem.

It probably wouldn't be as good as Relayer. The thing is , you can make an album that is completely brilliant from start to finish in every way and still have it be no where near as good as Relayer.

rabinmovies

01-10-2005, 04:56 AM

Trevor Rabin. Please Bring Him Back, Now!

Scooty

01-10-2005, 05:02 AM

Trevor Rabin. Please Bring Him Back, Now!

Bwhaaaaaahaaaaaaaa...LOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL

oh wait..you're serious...

Sorry

Earl Grey

01-10-2005, 05:07 AM

I want the Thai girl, Pauline Chang, from 'Ankgor Wat' to return.

See, there IS a YesWoman. Amazing.

A Student of YES

01-10-2005, 10:28 AM

I would love to see YES "stay" in the form it is in now.

Having said that; It would be a fantasy to see Moraz do a few cameo's and play Sound Chaser and perhaps have Chris & Pat do a few from FOOW during one of the tour dates. AND GET IT ON DVD ! Perhaps have Bill sit in for a few songs during a tour as well!

I guess this sort of a blast from the past would be a real cool way for YES to excite the audience and keep us all guessing. Think about it there are not many Bands who could do this! What talent they have worked with through the years! I would like to see Trevor Horn do a cameo set with Jon and do Tempus Fugit (He got a lot of bad press and fan bashing) He was pretty good. How about having Trevor Rabin show up and do some work from Talk or 90125, Big G!
Any of these EX YES members would be welcome, unanounced, and play with the core fab 5! You would get different show's! These guy's are good enough to pull this off in fine fashion. I would have to request that each show be filmed! Man that would generate a lot of DVD sales for the band. I would buy them all!

I know this is not realistic but a tour like this would please every YES fan there is! It would be less confusing than the reunion tour was and give the audience more of an understanding of what each of these members have contributed through the years.

Randy

Scaramouche

01-10-2005, 01:17 PM

I think I would like to see Geoff Downes back with the band. He did some excellant keyboard work on Drama and some of the stuff he did with ASIA was superb.

Needs to be given another and fairer crack at the whip.

Failing Geoff then Patrick Moraz should be brought back in.

Look they are both keyboardists...no offence Wakeman..stay where you are...your the best.

Love and Cans and Brahms

Scaramouche xx

rememberer

01-10-2005, 01:51 PM

It would be a fantasy to see Moraz do a few cameo's and play Sound Chaser and perhaps have Chris & Pat do a few from FOOW during one of the tour dates. AND GET IT ON DVD ! Perhaps have Bill sit in for a few songs during a tour as well!

I'll second that! They can do a MUCH better package with the title, "Re-Union" than whatever that thing is that hangs around the bargain bins, can't they? Or Chris should get 20-30 minutes in a Conspiracy &/or Alan White &/or Syn tour to do some of that, and they should bring Pat along too if they can get him.

Topographic][Sardaukar

01-11-2005, 09:42 AM

I appreciate Billy tremendously and after watching House of Blues, I like him even more. I would actually like to see him back in the band. I don't understand how he could have gotten in the way of Steve's creativity as a lead guitarist as his contributions are always great and never in the way. I think he was much more sensitive to classic Yes music than Trevor was. Comparing Trevor's work on the Union tour with Awaken to Billy's on the Ladder tour, his parts are much closer in style to the Original and add to the song better. His backup parts are always original and never excessive or similar to what Steve is doing at the time. This fleshes out the songs even more. His presence allows missing studio parts and vocals to be included live. He appears very humble so I don't think his inclusion would jeopardize the current line up.