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Jonny
02-12-2007, 04:45 AM
Preordering can begin:

www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=93;-1;-1;-1&sku=616836

Jonny

allpurechance
02-12-2007, 04:56 AM
Preordering can begin:

www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=93;-1;-1;-1&sku=616836

Jonny

Yeah!

This goes on the list!

InverYes
02-12-2007, 08:39 AM
What's this in the "customers also bought" section

http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=12;-1;-1;-1&sku=597271

nitrus
02-12-2007, 03:59 PM
Heh, funny, we found it almost at the same time. I pre-ordered the Montreux DVD from HMV just yesterday!
Just a month or so wait.

BTW, this seems to be a standard DVD release, not HD-DVD or BR as advertised earlier. Which is fine, actually, since I can't play either of those formats yet.

nitrus
02-12-2007, 04:03 PM
What's this in the "customers also bought" section

http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=12;-1;-1;-1&sku=597271

That looks like yet another re-re-re-release of one of those cheapo documentaries. Just look at the cover. It's not even Yes. I'd guess it's Rick's band from the 70s. I think it's Rick on the upper left.

Bluegrunt
02-12-2007, 04:13 PM
Review of the Close to the Edge dvd from play.com:

"This is rock music informed by the unfettered spirit of jazz and allied with the grandeur of the classics.

Close to the Edge was the first (and some would say the only) album to successfully co-mingle the incongruous, often combustible ingredients of Yes.

Veering from pomposity to pretension, Yes have always divided the critics, and yet with Close to the Edge they seemed to cancel out their own weaknesses; the pomp and splendour of Wakeman's keys' nicely offset by Steve Howe's fluid guitar. Even Jon Andersons's surreal yet pastoral lyrics seem an intrinsic part of the music.

This comprehensive review features rare archive footage, insider interviews; including an extensive interview with Steve Howe himself!, intricate analysis of the tracks by leading music critics and musicologists, including Phil Sutcliffe from Mojo and Malcolm Dome from Classic Rock Magazine, plus highlights from both studio and performance footage.

Featured Tracks Include: Close to the Edge, And You and I, Siberian Khatru and more!"

First I'd like to see what other tracks are featured on this review of CTTE ("more"!), and second I'd like to know who the guys are on the cover, cos they sure ain't Yes. Thirdly, just how do you cancel out your own weakness? Lastly, Jon Andersons. It must be great to really have pride in your work.

CybrKhatru
02-12-2007, 04:15 PM
Oh goody....we'll order this one!

nitrus
02-13-2007, 02:10 AM
I hope this will be a high quality release with DTS sound (albeit without any extras...). This show deserves that.

YesJen357
02-21-2007, 08:45 PM
Who knows which company is releasing this one?

YesJen357
02-21-2007, 09:31 PM
Just answered my own question when I ordered it from Amazon UK.
It's Eagle Rock Entertainment and it goes for 138 minutes. Presuambly that means the whole show.
Wahoo! Can't wait for this one.
Ever since seeing the snippets on Yesspeak and then the partshow on TV this one has been longed for.
Roll on March 19th!

True Believer
02-21-2007, 10:10 PM
OK, just ordered it!

YesJen357
02-22-2007, 06:40 AM
OK, just ordered it!
Good on'ya, Anne.
Don't know about you, but this is my most long awaited and 'hoped for' offering in quite some time.
I'm always impatient when there's a new addition on its way to my collection....But this one.... Well, it's a souvenir of the Full Circle. A reminder of my first chance to see YES live; the same set list, etc.
Oh, I really am anxious about getting this one through my mail box!
Blast...I want this one, yesterday!

relayeire
02-23-2007, 01:56 PM
Just answered my own question when I ordered it from Amazon UK.
It's Eagle Rock Entertainment and it goes for 138 minutes. Presuambly that means the whole show.
Wahoo! Can't wait for this one.
Ever since seeing the snippets on Yesspeak and then the partshow on TV this one has been longed for.
Roll on March 19th!

Isn't the audio-only concert on Yesspeak taken from this show? I believe the setlist is identical.

YesJen357
02-24-2007, 08:20 AM
Isn't the audio-only concert on Yesspeak taken from this show? I believe the setlist is identical.
It could well be; but a big fan once told me, - without quoting any sources that the Yesspeak audio came from a conglomeration of shows...So who knows?
Anyone?

Olorin
02-24-2007, 10:11 AM
So is this going to be a Region 1 release (US/Canada), or Region 2 (Europe) only? One site said Region 2, but the US retailers are carrying it w/o a disclaimer that it's Region 2. Since it's on an American label, I'd have to think there'd be a Region 1 release, but who knows.

And "To Be Over" is on the setlist? Is it just Howe doing part of it solo? (The one site indicated it sequed into "Clap," so I'm guessing).

VentureRG
02-24-2007, 11:17 AM
CD Universe has this on sale for $11.09. It's widescreen and has surround (Dolby Digital and DTS):
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?cart=490258715&style=movie&PID=7388293
Resistance is futile. It will be mine on March 20 (or shortly thereafter).

ToBeOver
02-24-2007, 01:52 PM
Oh goody....we'll order this one!

Yeah, like this is a surprise! :lmao:

Amoeba, anyone? ;)

I'll be ordering this one, as well!


:keyboard:

Hed G.
02-25-2007, 03:11 AM
Yeah, like this is a surprise! :lmao:

Amoeba, anyone? ;)

I'll be ordering this one, as well!


:keyboard:

Yes, an amoeba with fries and a shake!

I dunno about this one. I'll read your reviews and look for it
in the bargain bins in a couple of years.

relayeire
02-25-2007, 11:17 AM
So is this going to be a Region 1 release (US/Canada), or Region 2 (Europe) only? One site said Region 2, but the US retailers are carrying it w/o a disclaimer that it's Region 2. Since it's on an American label, I'd have to think there'd be a Region 1 release, but who knows.

And "To Be Over" is on the setlist? Is it just Howe doing part of it solo? (The one site indicated it sequed into "Clap," so I'm guessing).

it's going to be the Howe solo TBO, as heard in the Yesspeak audio-only concert... Yes haven't played that as a band in over 30 years, I believe... (fingers crossed for the '08 tour!)

Joe
02-25-2007, 11:21 AM
(fingers crossed for the '08 tour!)

Hey relayeire...........
We really "ALL" could use this!
God....I do anything to see YES live again!

relayeire
02-25-2007, 11:23 AM
So is this going to be a Region 1 release (US/Canada), or Region 2 (Europe) only? One site said Region 2, but the US retailers are carrying it w/o a disclaimer that it's Region 2. Since it's on an American label, I'd have to think there'd be a Region 1 release, but who knows.

check out the CD Universe link above... the one offered on that site is from Eagle Vision USA... with that name, I doubt it's a Region 2 disc... UK and US sites are both offering this, and I believe the discs are their own respective regions...

Vic Anderson
02-25-2007, 11:32 AM
i think steve will force jon to sing it :)

Olorin
02-25-2007, 06:40 PM
i think steve will force jon to sing it :)

I don't think Jon has any problem with not wanting to sing it. I think the problem is Rick doesn't want to play it.

dallasman
02-26-2007, 08:40 AM
I don't think Jon has any problem with not wanting to sing it. I think the problem is Rick doesn't want to play it.

I really hope that`s not the case, that would be unbelievably petty of him. Sound Chaser, I could see why he might object to, as that`s pretty much the only track that Patrick got to put his stamp on, and the farthest from Rick`s sensibilities (Steve: "Hey Pat, can you play somethink that sounds like Mahavishnu? Old Wakey was never hip to that fusion trip, and we wanna shred some"). I think TBO would be absolutely gorgeous if they got into it and let it breathe, like AYAI on the most recent tours - real majestic and measured, all the beautiful melodies and thick textures shining. Yeah, they should definitely do To Be Over live one of these days.

YesJen357
02-26-2007, 11:18 AM
When last I looked, Amazon UK said that this DVD was 138 minutes long but didn't include a setlist.
It was enough to make me strongly suspect that it WAS the complete show; but after getting my hopes up with the audio release on the box set..... I still feared some measure of disappointment.
Well, if the setlist on CD Universe's site is to be believed....It IS the whole show.
Yipppeeeeee!!!
Now this one really is my most 'longed for' since Tsongas.
Waiting is such sweet agony!

relayeire
02-26-2007, 11:18 AM
since Wakey rejoined in '02 it sounds like he's been open to doing whatever, as long as (his words) he can play it "his own way"

dallas - exactly my sentiments about Sound Chaser... it's just not a Wakeman tune - it's a Moraz tune that could not have happened in another incarnation of the band... though I think Igor could have pulled it off live... and when you look at the fact that Yes have slowed down their live versions of CTTE, SK and HOTS in recent years, it's clear they're just not up for such a fast, frenetic tune these days...

TBO, however, is not such a complex... Jon would have to play the countermelody on the guitar like he did in the days of old... cool! here's hoping for TBO in '08!

relayeire
02-26-2007, 02:17 PM
When last I looked, Amazon UK said that this DVD was 138 minutes long but didn't include a setlist.
It was enough to make me strongly suspect that it WAS the complete show; but after getting my hopes up with the audio release on the box set..... I still feared some measure of disappointment.
Well, if the setlist on CD Universe's site is to be believed....It IS the whole show.
Yipppeeeeee!!!
Now this one really is my most 'longed for' since Tsongas.
Waiting is such sweet agony!


it's supposed to be the entire... it's shorter than many Yesshows because it was part of a festival, where bands typically play shorter sets... note the absence of a long song like Awaken or RSOG, both of which they did after Wakeman came back...

dallasman
02-28-2007, 04:14 AM
it's supposed to be the entire... it's shorter than many Yesshows because it was part of a festival, where bands typically play shorter sets... note the absence of a long song like Awaken or RSOG, both of which they did after Wakeman came back...

On the contraire (pardon my French); note the presence of Awaken as item 15 on the setlist. It`s the standard 2003 setlist in full, so rejoice, rejoice!
:beerchugr:
I saw them on the 2004 European tour, and was robbed of Awaken, HOTS and CTTE (which was only played on some US dates) in exchange for less essential numbers like OOALH, ROL and Mind Drive. This (the Montreux set) is much more to my liking, so my pre-order is on the books. Now, if they`d only had the foresight to film 2004 performances of CTTE and America for inclusion as bonus material... Oh well, two essential DVD releases in the space of two months is pretty good. I guess... (sigh)
:headset:

dallasman
02-28-2007, 04:16 AM
it's supposed to be the entire... it's shorter than many Yesshows because it was part of a festival, where bands typically play shorter sets... note the absence of a long song like Awaken or RSOG, both of which they did after Wakeman came back...

On the contraire (pardon my French); note the presence of Awaken as item 15 on the setlist. It`s the standard 2003 setlist in full, so rejoice, rejoice!
:beerchugr:
I saw them on the 2004 European tour, and was robbed of Awaken, HOTS and CTTE (which was only played on some US dates) in exchange for less essential numbers like OOALH, ROL and Mind Drive. This (the Montreux set) is much more to my liking, so my pre-order is on the books. Now, if they`d only had the foresight to film 2004 performances of CTTE and America for inclusion as bonus material... Oh well, two essential DVD releases in the space of two months is pretty good. I guess... (sigh)
:headset:

YesJen357
02-28-2007, 09:58 AM
Oh well, two essential DVD releases in the space of two months is pretty good. I guess... (sigh)
:headset:
Sure is.....And still hoping for more!

relayeire
02-28-2007, 03:26 PM
On the contraire (pardon my French); note the presence of Awaken as item 15 on the setlist. It`s the standard 2003 setlist in full, so rejoice, rejoice!
:beerchugr:
I saw them on the 2004 European tour, and was robbed of Awaken, HOTS and CTTE (which was only played on some US dates) in exchange for less essential numbers like OOALH, ROL and Mind Drive. This (the Montreux set) is much more to my liking, so my pre-order is on the books. Now, if they`d only had the foresight to film 2004 performances of CTTE and America for inclusion as bonus material... Oh well, two essential DVD releases in the space of two months is pretty good. I guess... (sigh)
:headset:

you are correct, sir... my bad... looking back at the setlist, it's actually America and RSOG that are missing from the early part of the set I saw in '02... Howe didn't do TBO, nor did they do ISAGP or Roundabout... I was ok with those last two!

I saw a second date in '02, which was actually the first date of the second leg... they did do CTTE, but it wasn't my favorite version... first time I ever saw Steve do the song without the sitar guitar (this was before he started using the modeling guitar for that part, too)... they were a bit of a mess that night, but it sounds like by '03 they'd gotten it all worked out... look forward to seeing this "long-awaited Yesshow," about which I knew very little until just days ago!

PS: guess I got lucky, because I was also at one of the few dates where they did CTTE in '04 - Red Rocks...

Jonk
03-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Well I received my finished copy today and I am very happy with it. Sadly no extras such as an interview or even a picture gallery but the set list is super and the quality of the picture and sound quality is superb so I can't see anyone being disappointed with this. Having seen the bootleg disc of this show the finished Eagle DVD is superior. I am actually surprised that Eagle haven't put other Yes DVDs out as they seem to have done a good job on the ones they have done so far and Yes are obviously happy to work with them. Maybe there are other goodies on the way:headset:

dallasman
03-02-2007, 03:42 AM
PS: guess I got lucky, because I was also at one of the few dates where they did CTTE in '04 - Red Rocks...[/quote]

Oh, you Americans get all the breaks... :23: (that`s me) They were a very well-oiled machine when I saw them in Oslo `04, really slick and confident. I thought Owner and Rhythm were pretty pointless additions, but harmless fun. Jon shouldn`t have bothered doing his "Bono" thing, though, running into the crowd and shaking hands. He looked like he hated it, like he was taking out a bag og particulary smelly, runny trash. He swept right past my nose, and the look on his face said "right, let`s get this over with real quick".
I was mainly watching Steve, waiting to see if he`d f**k something up, but he did fine (if that sounded cruel, bear in mind that Steve was one of my top three inspirations as a kid and my favourite guitarist for a long time. His decline as a player is impossible to ignore and a truly sad thing to witness, but I still love him like an uncle. A weird, grumpy, arthritic uncle).
For the most part, they all seemed to enjoy themselves, and made me proud. I see no reason why they shouldn`t tour again next year, maybe play all of Tales plus To Be Over and Awaken... Well, I`m completely :offtopic: , sorry. Have a nice weekend, everyone, especially those of you who have gotten your Montreux DVDs already.

Vic Anderson
03-02-2007, 09:34 AM
how come you got it so fast?

relayeire
03-02-2007, 10:24 AM
PS: guess I got lucky, because I was also at one of the few dates where they did CTTE in '04 - Red Rocks...

Oh, you Americans get all the breaks... :23: (that`s me) They were a very well-oiled machine when I saw them in Oslo `04, really slick and confident. I thought Owner and Rhythm were pretty pointless additions, but harmless fun. Jon shouldn`t have bothered doing his "Bono" thing, though, running into the crowd and shaking hands. He looked like he hated it, like he was taking out a bag og particulary smelly, runny trash. He swept right past my nose, and the look on his face said "right, let`s get this over with real quick".
I was mainly watching Steve, waiting to see if he`d f**k something up, but he did fine (if that sounded cruel, bear in mind that Steve was one of my top three inspirations as a kid and my favourite guitarist for a long time. His decline as a player is impossible to ignore and a truly sad thing to witness, but I still love him like an uncle. A weird, grumpy, arthritic uncle).
For the most part, they all seemed to enjoy themselves, and made me proud. I see no reason why they shouldn`t tour again next year, maybe play all of Tales plus To Be Over and Awaken... Well, I`m completely :offtopic: , sorry. Have a nice weekend, everyone, especially those of you who have gotten your Montreux DVDs already.[/quote]

something happened at the Tampa '04 show - they were really ON that night... on fire, I should say... well-oiled, as you say...

I am sad to say all your comments about Steve are right-on...

anyhoo - from all account this Montreaux show was excellent... I am glad we're going to get a chance to see it... now if they had only done a video of the '02 set, with RSOG, etc.

Jackaranda
03-02-2007, 12:00 PM
Oh, you Americans get all the breaks... :23: (that`s me) They were a very well-oiled machine when I saw them in Oslo `04, really slick and confident. I thought Owner and Rhythm were pretty pointless additions, but harmless fun. Jon shouldn`t have bothered doing his "Bono" thing, though, running into the crowd and shaking hands. He looked like he hated it, like he was taking out a bag og particulary smelly, runny trash. He swept right past my nose, and the look on his face said "right, let`s get this over with real quick".
I was mainly watching Steve, waiting to see if he`d f**k something up, but he did fine (if that sounded cruel, bear in mind that Steve was one of my top three inspirations as a kid and my favourite guitarist for a long time. His decline as a player is impossible to ignore and a truly sad thing to witness, but I still love him like an uncle. A weird, grumpy, arthritic uncle).
For the most part, they all seemed to enjoy themselves, and made me proud. I see no reason why they shouldn`t tour again next year, maybe play all of Tales plus To Be Over and Awaken... Well, I`m completely :offtopic: , sorry. Have a nice weekend, everyone, especially those of you who have gotten your Montreux DVDs already.

something happened at the Tampa '04 show - they were really ON that night... on fire, I should say... well-oiled, as you say...

I am sad to say all your comments about Steve are right-on...

anyhoo - from all account this Montreaux show was excellent... I am glad we're going to get a chance to see it... now if they had only done a video of the '02 set, with RSOG, etc.[/QUOTE]

I agreed with the Steve comments until I saw him last year, first solo and then with Asia. He was very much the "old" Steve and played great, as good as ever.

relayeire
03-02-2007, 02:32 PM
I agreed with the Steve comments until I saw him last year, first solo and then with Asia. He was very much the "old" Steve and played great, as good as ever.[/quote]

well, in that case, I look forward to an '08 tour even more... he still has his moments, for sure... haven't seen him since '04...

I remember getting goosebumps at the last chord of GFTO at that Tampa show... I knew he and the band were ready for this show, and it was one of their best...

Jonk
03-02-2007, 02:51 PM
how come you got it so fast?
It is a promo copy although it is the finished article. I have had the check disc since before Christmas. I get loads of stuff up front. I got this the same day as the new John Mayall CD and the new Paul Rodgers DVD and CD which is coming out soon. None of them are out yet but due soon:headset:

topographballolight
03-07-2007, 01:03 AM
awesome;
eaglerockent.com always puts out the best live dvds. THIS IS JUST WHAT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FROM YES. im sure it will be done right and HQ.

topographballolight
03-07-2007, 01:08 AM
is it on eagle eye media? i am figuring it would be.

Faceintheplace
03-08-2007, 04:10 PM
Really looking forward to this, at last a Yes DVD featuring Heart of the Sunrise with no electric drums. I'll porbably get this in April.

nitrus
03-14-2007, 05:55 PM
Next week!!!

brotherofmine
03-14-2007, 06:17 PM
I just got an e mail to say mine has been posted!

nitrus
03-14-2007, 06:23 PM
Where did you order it from?

brotherofmine
03-14-2007, 06:27 PM
Where did you order it from?

Play.com £8.99 for UK and free postage, 13.99 Euros for Europe.

nitrus
03-14-2007, 06:32 PM
Too bad they don't ship to Slovakia. I've already tried to order from them. I think I'll stick with my HMV order. Thanks!

relayeire
03-14-2007, 06:46 PM
Really looking forward to this, at last a Yes DVD featuring Heart of the Sunrise with no electric drums. I'll porbably get this in April.

are ABWH and Union really the only Yesvids that have HOTS on them? hmm... I will have to look at my collection...

brotherofmine
03-14-2007, 08:52 PM
are ABWH and Union really the only Yesvids that have HOTS on them? hmm... I will have to look at my collection...

http://www.yesfans.com/showpost.php?p=751870&postcount=9
I knew my database would come in handy somewhere, there are a number of DVD(or VCD) 'weeds' on this site which has HOTS in addition to the ones you mentioned:
BG Tour Philadelphia 29/11/87
OYE Tour Budapest 21/3/98
OYE Argentina Tour VCD 16/05/98
Union Tour DVD Denver
Toronto Full Circle VCD 31/07/02
Camden, NJ VCD and DVD 08/08/02
W. Palm Beach DVD 11/08/02

Mostly Harmless
03-14-2007, 09:03 PM
Bummer.....none of those links are working for me.

relayeire
03-14-2007, 09:18 PM
http://www.yesfans.com/showpost.php?p=751870&postcount=9
I knew my database would come in handy somewhere, there are a number of DVD(or VCD) 'weeds' on this site which has HOTS in addition to the ones you mentioned:
BG Tour Philadelphia 29/11/87
OYE Tour Budapest 21/3/98
OYE Argentina Tour VCD 16/05/98
Union Tour DVD Denver
Toronto Full Circle VCD 31/07/02
Camden, NJ VCD and DVD 08/08/02
W. Palm Beach DVD 11/08/02

well, I was thinking of "legit" releases that I own... lol... but thanks!

PS: I was at that WPB show! cool... Jon kept forgetting the words on HOTS, though...

YesJen357
03-14-2007, 10:45 PM
Wow!
it's already shipping to some.....That's fantastic news.
Mine's ordered through Amazon. I will be anxiously watching for a shipping notice.

Faceintheplace
03-14-2007, 11:16 PM
If we're just talking legit releases then yes, ABWH and Union are the only videos with HOTS on them.

Man I wish the Philly '79 DVD had HOTS and Big Medley. How could the film makers skip over those yet see fit to include Circus of Heaven?

YesJen357
03-16-2007, 01:25 AM
Curious....I ordered my copy through Amazon a couple of weeks ago. I just went back to check on the release date and came up blank with title searches.
What gives???

Paul Adams
03-17-2007, 09:31 AM
Good 'ol play.com; 'Live at Montreux' has arrived a couple of days before its supposed to be released.

Well I've just put the disc in the player & as I suspected there's no extra features to be had d'oh, but it does come with a leaflet about the jazz festival & the gig written by Dave Ling.

The menu screen is a bit lacking but I'm sure the concert will more than make up for the menu & lack of extras.

BRINGRABINBACK
03-17-2007, 09:33 AM
Link to an article on this:
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=24987

brotherofmine
03-17-2007, 10:44 AM
Mine arrived today! Not had chance to watch it yet!

nitrus
03-17-2007, 11:23 AM
Mine hasn't even been shipped yet...

brotherofmine
03-17-2007, 02:51 PM
I've had a brief look at mine first the details for those who want these things:
Three options on sound:
Dolby Digital
5.1
and DTS Surround Sound
It is region 2 but I have heard that US music stores are offering a Region 1 version. 137 minutes in total.
I listened on computer with headphones sound seemed reasonable at first and then got better.

Picture quality fairly good....a pro shot for TV station. I watched a little bit of the DVD it's fairly good quality but it feels a little bit sterile can't put my finger on it.....might be the audience or the band I don't know, but it doesn't 'excite me' like some Yes DVD's. This the only 'official' DVD from this tour so it's pretty important one for the collection.

Vic Anderson
03-17-2007, 03:01 PM
i think we are all left with a taste of the tsongas or symphonic
where they were better venues

the stage silver veils don't help either

but i think the performance was great
i have listened to this show for a while and i love every minute of it

the best awaken ever too

siberian khatru seems slow in the beginning but it picks up

nitrus
03-18-2007, 06:49 AM
I've just got an email that my order has been dispatched. Hope to receive it shortly...

Olias_01
03-18-2007, 10:44 AM
That was a result....Went onto Amazon to order the Tsongas dvd for my birthday and saw the Montreux dvd was out a few days later.....

Of course I have snuck it in with the order... I hope she doesn't notice (sniggers)

I agree Awaken on that tour was definitely the best ever......Any concert without Awaken is half a concert IMO...

YesJen357
03-18-2007, 08:18 PM
Best Awaken ever?????
Hmmm...That's almost like saying one of your own children is better than another! :)
Well, in this case I don't mind the sentiments despite having recollections of MANY brilliant performances of Awaken (my all-time favourite piece of music, ever)
To name just a few...Sydney 20/9/03.. Las Vegas 25/8/02.. Las Vegas 31/10/99.. Mountainview (Union) 8/8/91..
Though come to think of it; try and name a BAD Awaken!

..Still very anxiously awaiting this one!

ASIAnSeasonedWitch
03-19-2007, 08:20 AM
My copy arrived this morning from HMV!

YesJen357
03-19-2007, 08:21 AM
Amazon UK just emailed me to say that my copy has been dispatched...
Which means a careful eye will be scrutinizing the mailman's progress along my street each day now until it arrives.
Yahoooooo!!

YesJen357
03-19-2007, 08:23 AM
My copy arrived this morning from HMV!
Good for you.....
Now come on; tell us all about it.
How do you like it?

relayeire
03-19-2007, 03:54 PM
ASW - yes please... we want a thorough review!

my copy shipped today from CD Universe... woohoo!

gitsy
03-19-2007, 04:23 PM
My copy from Amazon has been shipped.

Astrall Traveller
03-19-2007, 04:28 PM
I'm sorry to put a bit of a dampner on things, but the constant re-releasing of old yes material is beginning to tarnish their reputation and cheapen their legacy! I know that they don't have any responsibility over this stuff but how many more live DVDs and cheap CDs can these budget record labels put out?

relayeire
03-19-2007, 04:39 PM
I don't see any problem with releasing back-product... I want new material, too... preferably, I want both!

ASIAnSeasonedWitch
03-19-2007, 05:19 PM
Sorry, I haven't had time to watch it let alone writing review...

I am always happy to see Yes footage from the past as there is always new discovery...every performance is different!

Ian Burdon
03-19-2007, 05:29 PM
Mine arrived this morning from Play.com - not had chance to watch it yet and unlikely to see it before Wednesday night :(

brotherofmine
03-19-2007, 06:23 PM
I'm sorry to put a bit of a dampner on things, but the constant re-releasing of old yes material is beginning to tarnish their reputation and cheapen their legacy! I know that they don't have any responsibility over this stuff but how many more live DVDs and cheap CDs can these budget record labels put out?

To be fair this is only one tour back and there is no official live DVD from that tour so I think there is some justification for it...it's not like it's a rehash.

Astrall Traveller
03-19-2007, 06:47 PM
Is this not the same tour Songs from Tsongas came out then?

relayeire
03-19-2007, 07:15 PM
Is this not the same tour Songs from Tsongas came out then?

no, that was the the '04 tour... different setlist...

brotherofmine
03-19-2007, 08:44 PM
This has a very nice sweet version of Awaken a lot more gentle than some versions.

Bo Locks
03-20-2007, 05:28 AM
Stop the chatter and somebody review the bl**dy thing!!!

Simon B
03-20-2007, 09:14 AM
Just bought my copy!

Have to wait until I get home to tell you what I think.

Dave Ling of Classic Rock Magazine says '..ranks among the group's finest shows ever.'

Something to look forward to then! He goes onto say '...surely (they) must be contemplating a 40th anniversary in 2008.

Let us pray....

gitsy
03-20-2007, 10:22 AM
Sounds like a positive review. do you know how many marks out of ten did they give it?

brotherofmine
03-20-2007, 10:25 AM
It's a competent Yes performance but the atmosphere IMHo feels rather sterile.

muff
03-20-2007, 11:01 AM
Still waiting for the postman to bring my copy, :winknudge

Simon B
03-20-2007, 11:07 AM
Sounds like a positive review. do you know how many marks out of ten did they give it?

No marks - Dave did the liner notes - he was actually THERE! My friend has known Mr Ling since 1981 and says if he said it was good - it was good!

It's a competent Yes performance but the atmosphere IMHo feels rather sterile.

That's 'cos we weren't there Tony :wavey:

Still waiting for the postman to bring my copy, :winknudge

Plain Brown package as per usual Norm? :lmao:

muff
03-20-2007, 11:11 AM
Plain Brown package as per usual Norm? :lmao:

you know me so well, :dog:

Vic Anderson
03-20-2007, 11:16 AM
rick with sunglasses :)

Simon B
03-20-2007, 05:31 PM
Oh

Simon B
03-20-2007, 05:32 PM
My

Simon B
03-20-2007, 05:32 PM
God

Simon B
03-20-2007, 05:33 PM
I cried

Go get it

Played Awaken 4 times

Buy it

It's a concert, beautifully recorded

Get It!


Now!!

Andersonic
03-20-2007, 06:28 PM
I agree with Simon Le B. ;)

relayeire
03-20-2007, 06:46 PM
how appropriate that this great version of Awaken should be recorded in Montreaux, eh? it's where the original was done...

can't wait to get my copy of the DVD!

stevie
03-21-2007, 08:28 AM
I've watched this a couple of time now and I enjoyed it a lot more the second time. I think sometimes I pre-judge things I was comparing it to Symphonic and Tsongas. This is produced by Eagle Vision with the permission of Yes. I think if it had been a Yes project it would have looked and sounded a littledifferent. For instance Awaken on here doesn't sound quite the same as the CD version from the same concert. The filming seems to concentrate a lot on Jon and Steve particularly early on in the DVD. Particular highlights for me were, Don't Kill The Whale, In The Presence Of, Heart Of The Sunrise, South Side Of The Sky and Steve playing To Be Over. Other bit's I noticed on the DVD was a particularly good catch by the roadie of Chris' harmonica and I had to laugh when Jon said his guitar was f###ed. As I say don't expect a Symphonic or Tsongas, this is more of DVD that looks as though it was made for TV, and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I'll be watching it again tonight.

brotherofmine
03-21-2007, 10:00 AM
As I say don't expect a Symphonic or Tsongas, this is more of DVD that looks as though it was made for TV, and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I'll be watching it again tonight.

Stevie.....you hit the nail on the head there! It was made for TV...because my initial feeling was to compare it to Lugano Estival which was a very good quality weed.Then again ABWH was a TV broadcast too.
It maybe that the volume was toned down for the audience reaction but looking at the band they look as if they are going through the motions rather than really enjoying it.
Musically it's good quality and has all the features you would expect of a modern dvd DTS surround sound, 5.1 Dolby digital etc. but I still think there is something missing.....a similar feeling I got with Keys DVD.

TourInfo
03-21-2007, 11:20 AM
I've only played parts of the DVD - Siberian Khatru, South Side Of The Sky, and Awaken. If they are representative of the DVD, I would say that it is excellent.

It is well filmed, and more importantly, the mix is good - unlike on Symphonic or Tsongas, Steve Howe is relatively high in the mix. His solo on Siberian Khatru and his duel with Wakeman's moog solo on South Side really benefit from this.

Furthermore, the camera work seems to be focused on Steve - albeit to the detriment of Squire.

Steve's guitar is an important part of the Yes sound, and it has been underplayed on official releases before Montreux. It's nice to have a more representative mix on this DVD.

I thoroughly recommend it - especially as you can get it for £8.99 on play.com.

Suntower Asking
03-21-2007, 11:44 AM
can somebody give me more info on this release. when was this released and what is the availability. Is it the whole show ?

can i walk over to the music store and buy a copy ?

I know absolutely nothing about this so any help would be great.

YesJen357
03-21-2007, 12:21 PM
There has been an unofficial DVD circulating for a while now of that show. It starts at Rick's solo and goes through to the end of the concert. Can anyone confirm if this release is the same mix?

Apollo 77
03-21-2007, 12:32 PM
can somebody give me more info on this release. when was this released and what is the availability. Is it the whole show ?

can i walk over to the music store and buy a copy ?

I know absolutely nothing about this so any help would be great.

Readily available via most internet sites like Amazon.com and I'd imagine most good music stores. Can't understand though, why this release isn't featured on the official Yesworld site - they were about a month late mentioning Jon Andersons box set and a couple of weeks late with the ABWH release, both of which I read first on here!
Btw, you've GOT to buy Montreux - it's great!!!!!

Mostly Harmless
03-21-2007, 12:52 PM
Just ordered mine from Amazon and probably saved a couple bucks on the exchange rate.

brotherofmine
03-21-2007, 01:06 PM
There has been an unofficial DVD circulating for a while now of that show. It starts at Rick's solo and goes through to the end of the concert. Can anyone confirm if this release is the same mix?

Jen I have that one....I will check it out and let you know...it was the same show but seemed different somehow....I'll get back to you.

gitsy
03-21-2007, 02:18 PM
I have only viewed this once so will hold full judgement however on first viewing I am really pleased with this release. The good news (as already highlighted) is Steve is high in the mix with some great close ups of his playing. The bad news is Chris is poorly represented wicth is frustrating as we know the points when he is hamming it up for us but often the director chooses to show us a close up of Jon face! I guess this is because of the way the cameras seem to be set up. One to the stage right focusing on Steve, one to the right focusing on Rick another at the back filming Alan a further camera (on a dolly I think) below at the front focusing on Jon and finally a high camera for those sweeping overhead shots. Maybe the other problem is the team who filmed the set do not appear to be familiar with the material. Stop Stop Stop this all sound very negative as I say I have only watched once and was pleased overall.

Vic Anderson
03-21-2007, 02:26 PM
yea it s the same video as the half show that was going around
i really like it i think the mix is great Steve really goes for it
and Chris gets the spotlight for hots and fish

Mc-Merc
03-21-2007, 04:33 PM
Off topic - a bit -
That looks like yet another re-re-re-release of one of those cheapo documentaries. Just look at the cover. It's not even Yes. I'd guess it's Rick's band from the 70s. I think it's Rick on the upper left.
You know, I think you're right! I think this is Rick Wakeman's English Rock Ensenble. The two guys crouching down are Gary Pickford-Hopkins and Ashley Holt. The guy to the left of Rick is guitarrist Jeffrey Crampton and the guy in white is bassist Roger Newell. I can't recognise the two guys at the ends (the one in yellow and the one to Wakey's right)...

True Believer
03-22-2007, 03:14 AM
Mine just arrived! I know what I'll be doing this weekend .....


:clap:

Ian Burdon
03-22-2007, 03:33 AM
I watched it last night for the first time: I wasn't at my most receptive since I only managed 3 hours sleep on Tuesday night but for what it's worth...

Firstly, in my living room the sound and picture quality were excellent (I run my DVD player into my old Cambridge audio amp and through some Eltax floor-standing speakers). The quality of the playing is also uniformly excellent and they're clearly enjoying themselves.

I don't agree that it feels sterile, but the early part of the set doesn't swing as much as I'd hoped. But then I think that it really begins to lift off in the latter half of South Side of the Sky when the Steve/Rick axis clicks into place: it isn't as raw and visceral as they managed in 2004 and captured on the Tsongas DVD but pretty damn good.

I'll give it a second (and third, fourth...!) view once I get the chance

Ian

yesplease
03-22-2007, 03:57 AM
Just bought my copy!

Have to wait until I get home to tell you what I think.

Dave Ling of Classic Rock Magazine says '..ranks among the group's finest shows ever.'

Something to look forward to then! He goes onto say '...surely (they) must be contemplating a 40th anniversary in 2008.

Let us pray....

Ordered mine a minute ago........wait, is that the postman? Damn, still not here! Patience, moi?

Ian Burdon
03-22-2007, 06:25 AM
I don't agree that it feels sterile, but the early part of the set doesn't swing as much as I'd hoped.

Thinking about this on my way to work this morning I realised that the phrase which I had been groping for here was 'over-rehearsed'

Ian

Vic Anderson
03-22-2007, 07:18 AM
i wonder when will yes release something that all fans will like

Ian Burdon
03-22-2007, 07:49 AM
i wonder when will yes release something that all fans will like

They haven't done that since Close to The Edge: why should they start now?

If they only do what fans like they'll never do anything new or challenging. Of course they may not do anything new or challenging anyway, but it would have to be what they want, not what fans want.

Ian

Simon B
03-22-2007, 08:11 AM
I think it is also a great DVD for us 'watchers of the fingers of Howe' - some great close ups of how HE actually plays stuff.

Who needs TABS!

Ian, I also think the boys got the crowd ROCKING by the end - the emaphasis of the audio is more on the crispness of the band and not the reaction of the audience - personnally I prefer it that way!

..and NO OVERDUBS!!!

Yes, there are bum notes - Keep 'em in!

gitsy
03-22-2007, 09:26 AM
Yes, there are bum notes - Keep 'em in![/QUOTE]

I agree, I always perfer a worts and all version

relayeire
03-22-2007, 11:25 AM
Yes, there are bum notes - Keep 'em in!

I agree, I always perfer a worts and all version[/quote]

same here... and I especially hate when phony applause is added here and there to make it more "exciting"

if it's Yes, it's already exciting!

Faceintheplace
03-22-2007, 12:31 PM
How would you all rate the version of Heart of the Sunrise on here?

Vic Anderson
03-22-2007, 01:20 PM
11

relayeire
03-22-2007, 01:58 PM
11

good to hear, because they had issues (forgetting words, miscues, etc.) during both '02 shows I saw... was not happy with their performance on that...

YesJen357
03-22-2007, 08:44 PM
yea it s the same video as the half show that was going around
i really like it i think the mix is great Steve really goes for it
and Chris gets the spotlight for hots and fish
Thanks Vic (and Brotherofmine)....
Well, there was certainly nothing wrong with the half-show. Rick, The Fish, Awaken etc... It always made me pine for the whole show....And now it's finally been released. Oh happy day!
To have Sweet Dreams, SSOTS, Mag. ITPO and the rest....ah could it get any better???

YesJen357
03-22-2007, 09:10 PM
i wonder when will yes release something that all fans will like
Probably when pigs learn to fly.

YesJen357
03-22-2007, 09:15 PM
Mine just arrived! I know what I'll be doing this weekend .....


:clap:Lucky you! Well, you're ahead of me, Anne. My Postie let me down. I was hoping to have a weekend just as good.
Perhaps Monday. (Sigh)

True Believer
03-22-2007, 09:55 PM
Lucky you! Well, you're ahead of me, Anne. My Postie let me down. I was hoping to have a weekend just as good.
Perhaps Monday. (Sigh)
Yeah, Jen, but I still haven't got my ABWH DVD yet!

brotherofmine
03-22-2007, 09:56 PM
Thanks Vic (and Brotherofmine)....
Well, there was certainly nothing wrong with the half-show. Rick, The Fish, Awaken etc... It always made me pine for the whole show....And now it's finally been released. Oh happy day!
To have Sweet Dreams, SSOTS, Mag. ITPO and the rest....ah could it get any better???

No Sweet Dreams Jen...that was the tour after.

nitrus
03-23-2007, 01:13 PM
I've just finished watching the DVD. It's wonderful. Yeah, unlike Tsongas, it's clearly a made-for-TV production but the quality of both video and sound is superb. The setlist is representative and most imporantly, the performance of all the guys is stunning. One of their most energic and raw shows ever recorded. They don't look as strained as at Tsongas, they seem more sponatnious. The overall rating would be a close tie with Tsongas, however, due to better stage design, visuals and crowd of the 2004 show.

Simon B
03-23-2007, 05:52 PM
MASSIVE OVER-DUBBED PIANO ON AYAI!

F!

Why?

Boooo!!!

BrianD
03-23-2007, 06:04 PM
It is interesting to read the reviews on Forgotten Yesterdays about this show - 'Best show ever', 'a wonderful night in Montreux'

http://www.forgottenyesterdays.com/date.asp?s=5&tname=22&tdate=2318&navb=10

PA Yes Fan
03-23-2007, 08:49 PM
I was down at my local Circuit City in Langhorne, PA and what do you know. They had a couple copies of the Montreux DVD. I hadn't realized this was even in stores. What a great surprise to start the weekend, and only $12.99

True Believer
03-24-2007, 06:57 AM
MASSIVE OVER-DUBBED PIANO ON AYAI!

F!

Why?

Boooo!!!
True.

I've finished watching it - LOVED IT! Such energy and great vibes. Highlight? Awaken for sure. Just incredibly brilliant.

I can't wait to see Yes live again - c'mon guys, get back on the road!

Olorin
03-24-2007, 10:32 AM
I finally watched mine last night. On the whole, it was pretty good, although there were some things that baffled me. The biggest one was the vocal mix, or lack thereof, during Awaken. It sounded like Jon (and Chris) were in a different room from the band and audience, like maybe backstage! All the other vocals in the concert sounded normal, so I'm wondering if the mixer was going for something more "ethereal" sounding for this song, or what.

Also, and this question goes beyond just this video, I'm wondering why it is that long shots over the audience are always from the RIGHT rear of the venue, never the left (or from the center, for that matter). I've seen that on so many concert vids, not just Yes'.

I noticed a few flubs from Wakeman on one of the songs (I forget which now; it was late when I watched this). He even winced on one of them. Not that I'm complaining about that--it makes the concert more real and less prone to suspician of any of it being a Ashley Simpson-style performance. I'm just thinking, though, if there were lots of overdubbed keys on AYAI, the non-overdubbed take must have been a total disaster.

I know Jon loves to give rambling, incoherent introductions to songs, and we all expect that from him, but I wish he wouldn't do it over the beginning of the song while the guys are already playing, as he did at least twice on this show (ITPO and SSOTS).

A couple of technical jibes aimed at Eagle Media... they did the DVD layer change right in the middle of one of Jon's speeches, right in the middle of a sentence, no less. There's no way they couldn't have done that change 20 seconds sooner or later, and it would have been fine. Also, I don't know why they felt the need to censor-bleep Jon when he apparently said the "F" word when he was rambling about how cool his guitar looked.

All the foregoing are minor quibbles that don't seriously detract from a good DVD that is one of Yes' best live videos.

kirklott
03-24-2007, 12:06 PM
Re "To Be Over," do they play the whole song, or is it just a Steve Howe snippet?

Olorin
03-24-2007, 12:25 PM
Re "To Be Over," do they play the whole song, or is it just a Steve Howe snippet?

Howe plays it on acoustic guitar. It's more than just a snippet, though it's not 10 minutes long like the original. It includes most or all of the major sections of the song, and runs maybe 5 minutes or so. It's worthy.

gitsy
03-24-2007, 12:41 PM
Was this originally for TV? If so that would explain the censor

Lizzie
03-24-2007, 03:29 PM
Awaken...oh my God!!! Completely lost in this. Awesome!

:hippy:

Olorin
03-24-2007, 06:47 PM
Was this originally for TV? If so that would explain the censor

It probably was, but I'd have thought they'd have the original recordings and could have stored it. Oh well, it's only a minor quibble.

Yesed
03-24-2007, 10:09 PM
Had the same wonderful suprise PA.
Stoped at Borders after work on Saturday for the hell of it not expecting anything new, and saw the Montreux DVD. Havent watched it yet, but the HOTS on ABWH DVD is excellent with Bruford.
Whats one more version of Roundabout gonna sound like. Ed

relayeire
03-25-2007, 07:24 PM
I've finally watched the whole thing and wanted to weigh in with some observations...

as has been previously stated, Squire is hardly seen for large portions of the show... Alan is also mostly seen at a distance, or from the back... directors, eh!?

SK was awesome as ever, but I would have enjoyed the band coming onstage to Firebird... that always gives me goosebumps and does such a great job of creating anticipation for the band coming out and starting into a song...

The Fish - first time appearing in a "legit" Yes video? I can't think of another that it's in... very cool...

ISAGP - this is more of a note to fans... let Steve set the rhythm of Your Move, and you clap along to him, not the other way round, ok? it probably throws him off; it even throws me off as a listener...

Roundabout - abridged version... please never do this one again! (pretty please!)... this is a Yes concert, not a 45 RPM record... it's not as if the song is "too long!" I want all or nothing, baby!

I like live videos that don't focus too much on the audience (The Police Synchronicity Concert and Rush Grace Under Pressure Tour are offenders that come to mind)... we know there is an audience there, so no point in giving them too much screen time.. and when it's a video we're talking about, we at home are the audience... does that make sense? this one was good that way...

good setlist... strong performances... thought the mix was pretty good... I am not sure it is "the best Yes concert ever filmed," but the jury's still out on that... ask me in a year or so!

YES indeed-ily
03-25-2007, 09:15 PM
I didn't even know about this DVD. A buddy & I were actually talking about the '03 tour stop we caught in Atlanta, and lamented how there wasn't a DVD from that tour.....lo and behold, an hour later while browsing through Best Buy, there it was! Needless to say, I was thrilled. I liked the flow of the '03 setlist moreso than '04, so I give this a nod over the Tsongas DVD. Pretty much identical to the '03 Atlanta show I saw (except for YIND & an acoustic "Georgia" by Steve, but I suspect the latter was just a one-off performance, given the location), so it's a nice stroll down memory lane for me.....

YesJen357
03-25-2007, 09:47 PM
No Sweet Dreams Jen...that was the tour after.
Thank you BOM.....My mistake.

My 2 cents on this show.....
What did Chris do to upset the director????
Did he borrow his lawn mower and forget to bring it back, or something????
At least the camera (accidently or otherwise) picked up the harmonica throwing in AYAI. And it wasn't until HOTS that Chris really appeared at all.
My expectation was that this would be the very best of the DVD's. The setlist was perfect (IMHO) the show brilliant.....I too, just found the direction to be slightly disappointing. And that's coming from one who does her utmost to be positive at all times about YES. Of course it isn't a spray on YES, only the presentation of camera shots!
Still I'd rather have it than not!
At least the picture is sharper than Tsongas and perhaps the sound mix, a little more satisfying also.

True Believer
03-25-2007, 09:52 PM
What did Chris do to upset the director????

Very true. I wondered if Chris was even there for part of the time! :lmao:

YesJen357
03-25-2007, 09:53 PM
I just want to know what did Chris do to upset the Director???
Did he borrow the camera Director's lawn mower and forget to give it back???
Chris was hardly sighted in the vision until HOTS. (apart from having the harmonica throw caught on screen...perhaps accidently)
Otherwise....So very glad to finally have this one in my collection.

True Believer
03-25-2007, 09:57 PM
Mods - Can we merge this with the other Montreaux thread? Seems daft to have two of 'em.

Jackaranda
03-25-2007, 10:39 PM
Mods - Can we merge this with the other Montreaux thread? Seems daft to have two of 'em.

Mods - Can we merge B-True and True Believer and put me in the middle? :beerchugr:

True Believer
03-25-2007, 10:43 PM
Mods - Can we merge B-True and True Believer and put me in the middle? :beerchugr:
A True sandwich, Jack? :lmao:

Malcolm Birkett
03-25-2007, 10:47 PM
Awaken...oh my God!!! Completely lost in this. Awesome!

:hippy:

Elizabeth, Queen Elizabeth...true, so true...(Spandau Ballet?)...like Simes...I bloody cried when I watched this...and like Simes...Oh...My...God!!! Awaken!...truly, truly, truly awesome.

Play it loud!!!

Malcolm Birkett
03-25-2007, 10:53 PM
I just want to know what did Chris do to upset the Director???
Did he borrow the camera Director's lawn mower and forget to give it back???
Chris was hardly sighted in the vision until HOTS. (apart from having the harmonica throw caught on screen...perhaps accidently)
Otherwise....So very glad to finally have this one in my collection.

Yes...very frustrating. I watch and just think....come on....now to Chris....come on...Chris!...cut to Chris....
At least Schindeleria Praemataurus (spelling?) is cookin'...boy is that hot!

I defy anyone to watch that and then not say Chris is the best, simply the best.

Jackaranda
03-25-2007, 10:55 PM
A True sandwich, Jack? :lmao::valintine

True Believer
03-25-2007, 11:06 PM
Mods - Can we merge B-True and True Believer and put me in the middle? :beerchugr:
Well, we'll all be in Boston .....

Ya never know what'll happen! ;)

RandyC
03-25-2007, 11:10 PM
Awaken is beautiful! Brought tears to my eyes!
What a wonderful song!
The Best!!!

Albedo
03-25-2007, 11:28 PM
It's a wonderful concert, beautifully filmed and the sound quality is great. Lots of camera on Rick's keyboards. I wish there was more Squire - but we'll always have HOTS :D Too bad our TV died 2 days before it arrived, so I've only seen it on the little computer screen so far...

Albedo
03-26-2007, 12:31 AM
Thank you BOM.....My mistake.
At least the picture is sharper than Tsongas and perhaps the sound mix, a little more satisfying also.
Yes, I think the quality is a bit higher than Tsongas. The sound a bit richer. Not that anything can ever separate me from my Tsongas video mind you! And any time I can see Steve play To Be Over is a special occasion for me. And Awaken with Rick on keys and a camera on Rick - ohmygod! It doesn't get much better than that!

Bo Locks
03-26-2007, 05:46 AM
I'm wondering why it is that long shots over the audience are always from the RIGHT rear of the venue, never the left (or from the center, for that matter). I've seen that on so many concert vids, not just Yes'.That's where the power point is in all Enormodrome auditoria. Just ask the cleaners...

True Believer
03-26-2007, 06:08 AM
That's where the power point is in all Enormodrome auditoria. Just ask the cleaners...
:lmao:

relayeire
03-26-2007, 07:08 AM
Very true. I wondered if Chris was even there for part of the time! :lmao:

indeed... there were times I was wondering who that invisible background vocalist was...

Purple Wolfhound
03-26-2007, 07:52 AM
I bought the dvd over the weekend and watched it once so far. I won't get into specifics, just like to say I am overall pleased with it!

Apollo 77
03-26-2007, 11:11 AM
I finally watched mine last night. On the whole, it was pretty good, although there were some things that baffled me. The biggest one was the vocal mix, or lack thereof, during Awaken. It sounded like Jon (and Chris) were in a different room from the band and audience, like maybe backstage! All the other vocals in the concert sounded normal, so I'm wondering if the mixer was going for something more "ethereal" sounding for this song, or what.

Also, and this question goes beyond just this video, I'm wondering why it is that long shots over the audience are always from the RIGHT rear of the venue, never the left (or from the center, for that matter). I've seen that on so many concert vids, not just Yes'.

I noticed a few flubs from Wakeman on one of the songs (I forget which now; it was late when I watched this). He even winced on one of them. Not that I'm complaining about that--it makes the concert more real and less prone to suspician of any of it being a Ashley Simpson-style performance. I'm just thinking, though, if there were lots of overdubbed keys on AYAI, the non-overdubbed take must have been a total disaster.

I know Jon loves to give rambling, incoherent introductions to songs, and we all expect that from him, but I wish he wouldn't do it over the beginning of the song while the guys are already playing, as he did at least twice on this show (ITPO and SSOTS).

A couple of technical jibes aimed at Eagle Media... they did the DVD layer change right in the middle of one of Jon's speeches, right in the middle of a sentence, no less. There's no way they couldn't have done that change 20 seconds sooner or later, and it would have been fine. Also, I don't know why they felt the need to censor-bleep Jon when he apparently said the "F" word when he was rambling about how cool his guitar looked.

All the foregoing are minor quibbles that don't seriously detract from a good DVD that is one of Yes' best live videos.

The long camera angle from the does seem to be a constant doesn't it? When I saw that on the Montreux DVD, my mind went back to the Symphonic show and it's the same (when you watch that one again, check out the guy dancing along the aisle which spans the width of the arena during, I think, Ritual - looks totally spaced out!). Agree also about the 'F' bleep - probably the only time in his life that he's uttered a sweary! I usually find that when someone who doesn't normally swear, but lets one slip, it's very funny! Me? Most people reckon I've got Tourettes Syndrome - I just tell the Bassas that they don't know what they're feckin talking about!:Wow:

Apollo 77
03-26-2007, 11:33 AM
Awaken is beautiful! Brought tears to my eyes!
What a wonderful song!
The Best!!!


When the DVD arrived, I only had a chance to fast forward to see two or three tracks, one of them being Awaken and it was awesome! I wish I'd waited though as I watched the whole thing through this morning and it was better seeing it performed in the context of the full show. I've never known a bad performance of this masterpiece, but this one was extra special and I think Jon realised he'd got it spot on - next time you watch it, just have a close look at his eyes when Awaken finishes - he definitely appears to be fighting the tears back himself.
Btw, the performance of Awaken in Edinburgh on the Full Circle tour was equally brilliant!

relayeire
03-26-2007, 11:41 AM
The long camera angle from the does seem to be a constant doesn't it? When I saw that on the Montreux DVD, my mind went back to the Symphonic show and it's the same (when you watch that one again, check out the guy dancing along the aisle which spans the width of the arena during, I think, Ritual - looks totally spaced out!). Agree also about the 'F' bleep - probably the only time in his life that he's uttered a sweary! I usually find that when someone who doesn't normally swear, but lets one slip, it's very funny! Me? Most people reckon I've got Tourettes Syndrome - I just tell the Bassas that they don't know what they're feckin talking about!:Wow:

the long camera angle, which you also see in the ABWH live video and others, is taken from a crane... that, or a camera on a pedestal with a hell of a long neck on it! cranes are expensive, so they probably have only one per show, which is why the long shots all seem to be from one side...

I thought I was the only one who spotted that guy dancing in circles in the aisle during Yessymphonic... keep in mind, it was taped in Amsterdam... he could have been on any number of legal or illegal substances!

Jon has cursed at other shows... one of my boots from the Yes Album tour in the US has Jon saying something like, "I don't want to 'BS' you, but we're having a really great 'f-ing' time over here (in America)."

then there's the account I read, I think on Forgotten Yesterdays, where Jon cursed at the cops for roughing up kids who were too close to the stage...

ahh, Jon - needs some Orbit gum, I think...

Apollo 77
03-26-2007, 11:57 AM
the long camera angle, which you also see in the ABWH live video and others, is taken from a crane... that, or a camera on a pedestal with a hell of a long neck on it! cranes are expensive, so they probably have only one per show, which is why the long shots all seem to be from one side...

I thought I was the only one who spotted that guy dancing in circles in the aisle during Yessymphonic... keep in mind, it was taped in Amsterdam... he could have been on any number of legal or illegal substances!

Jon has cursed at other shows... one of my boots from the Yes Album tour in the US has Jon saying something like, "I don't want to 'BS' you, but we're having a really great 'f-ing' time over here (in America)."

then there's the account I read, I think on Forgotten Yesterdays, where Jon cursed at the cops for roughing up kids who were too close to the stage...

ahh, Jon - needs some Orbit gum, I think...

Ah well, you have me at a disadvantage as I don't have any boots (other than an old cassette tape of the Glasgow Apollo 77 I attended), and I'm too stupid to understand the 'weed' system. I think I'm missing out a lot :shrug: I'm gonna have to do something about it!!!!:headset:

Simon B
03-26-2007, 12:46 PM
Mods - Can we merge this with the other Montreaux thread? Seems daft to have two of 'em.

Good idea! I used to be able to do that you know!

B-TRUE
03-26-2007, 01:49 PM
Mods - Can we merge B-True and True Believer and put me in the middle? :beerchugr:

A True sandwich, Jack? :lmao:


:lmao:LOL!!! :headset:

Jackaranda
03-26-2007, 02:34 PM
Well, we'll all be in Boston .....

Ya never know what'll happen! ;)

I have a date with Beckie tonight!

Ok...back to the DVD.

Mods - I think we should merge this with the other Montreaux thread. Seems silly to have two of them.:silly:

yesplease
03-26-2007, 03:46 PM
Had to watch this again - seldom does a band hit absolute perfection even in the studio, but this version is an absolute career pinnacle.

I have been lucky enough to see a few musicians perform what I believe are "definitive" versions. One was The Jam, "That's Entertainment" at Sheffield, 1981. Another was a piece of Renaissance church music performed by a small choir in a Norman church in the heart of Wiltshire. A folk singer named Roy Bailey did a superlative version of a song by Ewan McColl (father of Kirsty) called The Joy Of Living. And this Awaken joins those moments of transcendent perfection where the music develops its own being. Simply stunning. I'm breathless.

Mostly Harmless
03-26-2007, 03:47 PM
My copy arrived today. Now I just need to make time to watch it. :D

fourfeetx2
03-26-2007, 05:05 PM
My sweetie called me from Best Buy at lunch to say he found the DVD there and should he buy it....YES of course!

Like Albedo we have to watch it on a computer monitor...but the big TV should be up and running by the end of the week.

True Believer
03-26-2007, 05:10 PM
Good idea! I used to be able to do that you know!
Before you gave away your superpower, Simon!

VentureRG
03-26-2007, 05:14 PM
CD universe shipped this last week (the beginning I believe). Still haven't received it--what gives oh Yes shipping Gods. Hurry, please hurry.

YesJen357
03-26-2007, 09:39 PM
Yes, I think the quality is a bit higher than Tsongas. The sound a bit richer. Not that anything can ever separate me from my Tsongas video mind you!
Yep.....Nothing, come hell or high water, would seperate me from Tsongas.......Or any of the YES dvd's for that matter!
They are too precious to let go of.
- Next, a 40th anniversary concert dvd................
There's another one to cherish.

YesJen357
03-26-2007, 09:47 PM
Yes...very frustrating. I watch and just think....come on....now to Chris....come on...Chris!...cut to Chris....
At least Schindeleria Praemataurus (spelling?) is cookin'...boy is that hot!

I defy anyone to watch that and then not say Chris is the best, simply the best.
Absolutely, my dear Malcolm!
......No doubt!

YesJen357
03-26-2007, 09:54 PM
Whilst still in a Montreux induced 'high.' I'm wondering what the next great release might likely be worthy of hoping for... (lest I sound like someone who is never satisfied....Come on, you know too much of YES is never enough!)
I ponder as to whether 'Union' Shoreline Amp. (for one) will ever become an officially sanctioned release.....
Or maybe I'll just have to be patient and wait for the 40th Anniversary concert?

David Momberg
03-26-2007, 10:50 PM
Why was this DVD not better promoted, or even mentioned on YESWORLD? It is incredible! I read about it on Progressive ears, and immediately went to my local Circuit city and got it for 13 bucks! It's absolutely INCREDIBLE! Maybe their best. Awaken,SSOTS,HOTS,magnification, and Howe's accoustic "To Be Over" are the highlights. Howe is ON FIRE!!! Maybe his best performance EVER on film! A must have for all true YESFANS!!!

VentureRG
03-26-2007, 11:01 PM
It's there on YesWorld now:http://yesworld.com/

RobAdams
03-27-2007, 12:38 AM
What a great day yesterday was. I saw Live In Montreux on the new release DVD display ($14.99) at Borders in Saratoga. Then when I got home Jon's "Lost Tapes Sampler" was in the mailbox!

The DVD is another fine addition to my Yes collection. Haven't cranked it loud yet, but it looks & sounds great.

I also picked up Geoff Emerick's book "Here There And Everywhere" (My Life Recording The Music Of The Beatles).
In the section where Geoff writes about recording John Lennon's "Instant Karma!" he mentions Alan White and Yes.

RobAdams
03-27-2007, 03:14 PM
Finally had the chance to view this DVD all the way through. I think the only thing lacking was a "side-long epic". Performance-wise it's great. But one complaint I have is that they gave Steve Howe a lot more camera time than Chris Squire. But I still say this is a great disc. I think I may even prefer this show to the Tsongas DVD.

relayer_1
03-27-2007, 05:05 PM
Finally had the chance to view this DVD all the way through. I think the only thing lacking was a "side-long epic". Performance-wise it's great. But one complaint I have is that they gave Steve Howe a lot more camera time than Chris Squire. But I still say this is a great disc. I think I may even prefer this show to the Tsongas DVD.

I totally agree, this DVD is better than Tsongas in many ways. You really get that feeling you are there in the audience. The Claude Nobs introduction is always a treat and makes this show special; camera work is fine, I've read some over critical mentions that why did they shot from behind Alan's drum kit and that Steve got more time than Chris. All that is rubbish. The camera work is pretty standard for all the Montreaux shows and so is the lighting, but who cares? The music is what really stands out and this performance accomplishes that. Just see and hear Awaken and you will relate.
OK, there are no extras, but still I would highly reccomend this DVD to any true loving Yes fan. Besides, anyone can afford a price of $14.99 or cheaper for a Gem like this.

gitsy
03-28-2007, 02:09 PM
I've read some over critical mentions that why did they shot from behind Alan's drum kit and that Steve got more time than Chris. All that is rubbish. The camera work is pretty standard for all the Montreaux shows and so is the lighting, but who cares?

This is a great DVD but Steve does get a greater share of screen than Chris does fact not rubbish.

orsonwellz
03-28-2007, 04:02 PM
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: Montreux

Well first off, rest assured that I found no ugly. It's got its quirks, 'tis true, but Montreux shouldn't be ticking off any true Yes fan.
Personally, I'm a big fan of the lingering style of editing (pioneered by those who shoot and cut the Austin City Limits series), and there was precious little lingering going on here. But having said that, the editing was not nearly the mess that so many of today's ADD-inspired concert films are.

The bad?
Well, not so very bad really...but I do concur with some other comments that I've read hereabouts: the mix lacks balance and consistency in spots, we don't get to (have to?) see much of Chris and his mugging, and the camera coverage isn't what it could've been (for example, better shots of Rick's hands on the keys, better angles on Alan). Still, as reservations go, these ain't much to squawk about.

The good, then?
"Awaken", of course, was every bit as advertised by all you who have already checked in. Inventive, inspired, sublime.
I, too, like my warts left in on concert films - as opposed to the overly-polished feel of Tsongas (which I like very much, nonetheless) - and Montreux satisfied on this count as well.
A terrific selection of songs...so nice to hear HOTS and Khatru again; Steve's take on "To Be Over" is not to be missed; a version of "South Side..." that combined Tsongas's proficiency (and mix) with Lugano's intensity; wonderful editions of the "Magnification" tracks. It's all good.

If I could've changed one thing, though, it would've been that the opening of "On The Silent Wings of Freedom" would've continued on into the full-blown song. Now wouldn't that have been a treat?!

But let's not get greedy. Someday perhaps.

Thanks, lads.

kgulls
03-29-2007, 09:42 AM
It appears that this concert will be released in the summer on HD DVD as one of 70 new titles to be released on this format.
No details as yet but it should provide us with the ultimate in Yes concerts, to date, for those who can take advantage of this relatively new format.
Hopefully,as well as a superb high definition picture,the new audio presentation will be available to compliment this release.

relayeire
03-30-2007, 02:47 PM
I prefer the setlist for Tsongas... but this has a few faves, too... as of right now I still like the Tsongas SSOTS better... we shall see...

Mostly Harmless
03-30-2007, 04:14 PM
I prefer the setlist for Tsongas... but this has a few faves, too... as of right now I still like the Tsongas SSOTS better... we shall see...

I'm with you on this!

Malcolm Birkett
03-30-2007, 10:12 PM
Just played this again tonight...a couple of times...and bloody well can't stop myself from crying during 'Awaken'...I don't just bloody 'tear up' as you yanks call it...I flaming well flood it out guys and gals...Simes!!!..we need to cry to this together mate...Nottingham 2003!!! When we first met...right under the nose of Ricardo 'twiddly fingers' Wakey. Happy happy times mate.
Miss you and your babe and your babe (Joey)

Buglunch
03-30-2007, 11:45 PM
Wakey dressed up for Montreux and 2004 when I met him but on
...Tsongas he's a janitor and the band is burned out.

Good to have the Montreux but Squire gets bad camera and they show everybody else vamping when Rick solos far too much, as usual.
Still a keeper.

happytheman
03-31-2007, 04:53 AM
Finally had the chance to view this DVD all the way through. I think the only thing lacking was a "side-long epic". Performance-wise it's great. But one complaint I have is that they gave Steve Howe a lot more camera time than Chris Squire. But I still say this is a great disc. I think I may even prefer this show to the Tsongas DVD.
I got through HOTS before I had to hit the sack last night. Hopefully I can finish it tonight. I personally don't miss the "side long epics". That's what Amsterdam is for! The band looks great in their "casual" attire. Rick and Steve are great as always. Alan is an ANIMAL! That guy has more stamina at his age than most people half his age. And Jon, oh yes Jon, minimizes the "ramblings" between songs, and his voice is "fresher" than on Tsongas, where at times well he is just worn out by the time they got to the end of that tour. Good selection of songs. Loved "To Be Over".

Bluegrunt
03-31-2007, 06:20 AM
... one complaint I have is that they gave Steve Howe a lot more camera time than Chris Squire

That is a plus point for me. Without wishing to offend anyone, I could well do without Chris' antics and finger pointing. Personally I thought the balance was just right. IMO this is another great Yes dvd. When I compare the dvds listed under Yes in the record shops to other 70s bands, I think they are building up an excellent video archive of shows. Could do with a decent version of the 78 and 91 in the round shows, but I think we're really lucky with the output they are putting out.

Simon B
03-31-2007, 08:22 AM
Just played this again tonight...a couple of times...and bloody well can't stop myself from crying during 'Awaken'...I don't just bloody 'tear up' as you yanks call it...I flaming well flood it out guys and gals...Simes!!!..we need to cry to this together mate...Nottingham 2003!!! When we first met...right under the nose of Ricardo 'twiddly fingers' Wakey. Happy happy times mate.
Miss you and your babe and your babe (Joey)

:wavey:

...and don't forget the :rcking: :rcking: to WURM my brother by another mother!

relayeire
03-31-2007, 10:46 AM
I've watched Awaken a few times now, and I do think it's a powerful performance... however, the emotion just isn't coming for me like it is for others... I don't see... oh, who am I kidding? I cried like a little girl... hold me?

Dondeh
03-31-2007, 02:37 PM
.......Yes in happier times is great to see. Chris and Rick 'high five-ing'. Later in the 2004 tour wasn't like that at all.......... and unfortunately still is

Hope the guys can get back to that 2003 togetherness.

Sorry for being so -ve but that's the way it is.

D

Buglunch
04-01-2007, 04:07 AM
I've watched Awaken a few times now, and I do think it's a powerful performance... however, the emotion just isn't coming for me like it is for others... I don't see... oh, who am I kidding? I cried like a little girl... hold me?

Watched 'Awaken' first time this a.m. right after live Wakeman radio and one of us Yesfans had just won Wakeyswag.
:beerchugr:

Glad to see it, quite a few variations and more Wakeman camera time, not enough Squire.

Mostly Harmless
04-01-2007, 07:11 AM
Watched 'Awaken' first time this a.m. right after live Wakeman radio and one of us Yesfans had just won Wakeyswag.
:beerchugr:

Glad to see it, quite a few variations and more Wakeman camera time, not enough Squire.

I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but from what I have seen Chris definitely gets the least camera time.

Mind Driver
04-01-2007, 08:36 AM
My copy is on it's way, along with the recently released "An Evening of Yes Music" by ABWH. I'm looking forward to both of them!

Awaken live......YEAH!

yesplease
04-01-2007, 11:19 AM
Wakey dressed up for Montreux and 2004 when I met him but on
...Tsongas he's a janitor and the band is burned out.

Good to have the Montreux but Squire gets bad camera and they show everybody else vamping when Rick solos far too much, as usual.
Still a keeper.

Personally I thought Tsongas was very strained at the beginning - like the band were starting cold, especially Jon.

Montreux is a work of art, among the stand-outs are Steve's guitar on Magnification as well as the majestic Awaken & AYAI, and faithfully gives us a band firing not only on all cylinders but towing the whole audience along at 100mph!


I will play Tsongas again, but not as often as Montreux or Keys for that matter. Now what we need is a DVD special of TFTO.....

Vic Anderson
04-01-2007, 12:07 PM
i think they were very stiff cuz they were afraid they're gonna mess up cuz they barely rehearsed

that's why i think they even waited for the last show

Malcolm Birkett
04-01-2007, 07:02 PM
i think they were very stiff cuz they were afraid they're gonna mess up cuz they barely rehearsed

that's why i think they even waited for the last show

??? Vic...I respect you so much but...stiff??...waited for the last show???...they had just played MSG...probably one of their best gigs ever, certainly the best ever And You And I, two nights before...they were hot and well and truly on it.

The one thing I always notice about the guys is that whenever, whenever there is a film crew...whether they be with the whole band or solo or whatever configuration...I just watched Remedy again last night for example...they just nail it!!!...truly nail it...and Tsongas, for me anyway is no exception...I love it...energy abounding.

relayeire
04-01-2007, 07:14 PM
??? Vic...I respect you so much but...stiff??...waited for the last show???...they had just played MSG...probably one of their best gigs ever, certainly the best ever And You And I, two nights before...they were hot and well and truly on it.

The one thing I always notice about the guys is that whenever, whenever there is a film crew...whether they be with the whole band or solo or whatever configuration...I just watched Remedy again last night for example...they just nail it!!!...truly nail it...and Tsongas, for me anyway is no exception...I love it...energy abounding.

dead on, mate! there's been a lot of Tsongas-bashing in this particular thread... I know there were some problems they fixed "in post" with that show (AYAI and a few other spots, seemingly), but they did the same thing with Montreaux... Alan got a bit confused during ELT, but they got back on track quickly... and anyone who saw their '04 Tampa show came away with a renewed respect for their talent as musicians.... I know I did...

Montreaux's indeed great, but I see no reason to compare the two shows...

Simon B
04-02-2007, 12:02 PM
I'm just pleased we are all talking about Yesmusic again!!! ;-)

Vic Anderson
04-02-2007, 12:27 PM
there are boots from 04 who are just out of this world


all I was trying to say was that
they seemed a little tense to me on the first songs
probably cuz jon was afraid he's gonna forget the words
I love tsongas it never left my player

relayeire
04-02-2007, 01:03 PM
there are boots from 04 who are just out of this world


all I was trying to say was that
they seemed a little tense to me on the first songs
probably cuz jon was afraid he's gonna forget the words
I love tsongas it never left my player

I do see Jon referring to his teleprompter during Mind Drive a few times... I'm ok with that, though...

YesJen357
04-03-2007, 10:47 AM
dead on, mate! there's been a lot of Tsongas-bashing in this particular thread..

Montreaux's indeed great, but I see no reason to compare the two shows...
AMEN!

relayer_1
04-06-2007, 11:00 AM
It is even cheaper at Best Buy going for $13.99, now that is a no brainer.

Dougnddeb
04-06-2007, 11:44 AM
I'm still waiting for mine!

hailhail
04-09-2007, 03:14 PM
Well,I just bought mine today.

Fan-fcukin-tastic
Another killer version of "And You and I"
Sound has been well fiddled with and the camera-persons
keep going to Steve at the end of his guitar runs,
but other than that (even including that ) no complaints here

There was no CTTE,TFTO or Gates on this !!!!!!
Do we now pray for a
"live ,orchestrated tour of the OPUS songs"???
(Will even let you lot throw in "Awaken & In the presence of)

tardistraveler
04-09-2007, 03:23 PM
I got it yesterday at Borders for $12.99!

Unfortunately, I didn't get to watch it last night . . . :(

yesplease
04-09-2007, 03:31 PM
For UK fans who haven't got this dvd yet (we'll find you - nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition....), Asda have it in their music DVD racks for about £12.

Purple Wolfhound
04-09-2007, 04:08 PM
For UK fans who haven't got this dvd yet (we'll find you - nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition....), Asda have it in their music DVD racks for about £12. How come you Brits are paying around twice the price as us Americans? Looks like you're being robbed!

Apollo 77
04-09-2007, 05:05 PM
How come you Brits are paying around twice the price as us Americans? Looks like you're being robbed!

Au contraire, given that the £ is very strong v the US $, we are getting a great bargain - if we hunt around! I paid £8.99 GBP with free delivery which I was delighted with. My joy was heightened when I received the DVD and watched it through - a truly brilliant performance (despite the reluctance of the camera crew to focus on Chris!).

Sweet Dreams
04-09-2007, 06:03 PM
I have read the reviews of this DVD, having received my copy on first day of release and watched it I agree with some of the comments that Eagle have without doubt played around with the sound quality.

Infact I returned my DVD to play.com to report the sound problem thinking that I had a faulty copy, however having received the new copy this weekend and watched it all again, I am still not happy with the sound production of this DVD.

It just seems to be holding back, Jon's voice tends to fade in and out at times ( track 16 ), I certainly need to have the volume set higher to get the true sound content.

I'm no expert but I would lay the problem with Eagle who released the DVD, I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the DVD far from it, there are some cracking songs ( Awaken ).

BOM mentioned the fact that it seemed sterile, I would have to agree with this, it's worth owning a copy of this DVD and I would recommend to anyone to buy it.

But for me for sound quality and atmosphere look no further that Tsongas, this really kicks some Ass.I must also mention An Evening Of Yes Music Plus- AWBH......AWESOME.

Just my opinion guys, you may or may not agree.

Cheers
Phil.

brotherofmine
04-10-2007, 03:30 AM
For UK fans who haven't got this dvd yet (we'll find you - nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition....), Asda have it in their music DVD racks for about £12.

Play.com have it for £8.99 free postage.

brotherofmine
04-10-2007, 03:32 AM
How come you Brits are paying around twice the price as us Americans? Looks like you're being robbed!

Tell us about it! It's a common problem here! We also were paying moe for download tunes than either USA or Europe. Fortunately that is/will be resolved.

Bugeyes
04-13-2007, 01:18 PM
Last night, I got to hear this most of this DA (DelicousAgony.com.)


It WILL be my next purchase.
:bncy:

Faceintheplace
04-13-2007, 02:00 PM
Got the DVD yesterday, it hasn't become my new favorite or anything but it's a decent DVD. Much better than the Keys DVD for sure. I love the setlist, but the performances seem very laid back, polished and smooth. Sounds to me like alot of touch up work has been done on this. I would also say I like the Tsongas SSOTS better.

Bugeyes
04-13-2007, 02:06 PM
Wished you would have been in DA last night, Face. We probably would have stayed on topic more if you had been there, instead of leather teddies that turned into lather. :bncy: Yep, you missed it.

relayeire
04-13-2007, 02:12 PM
Got the DVD yesterday, it hasn't become my new favorite or asnything but it's a decent DVD. Much better than the Keys DVD for sure. I love the setlist, but the performances seem very laid back, polished and smooth. Sounds to me like alot of touch up work has been done on this. I would also say I like the Tsongas SSOTS better.

I concur... I turned off KTA when I was watching RSOG, and we hear Steve playing but his hands aren't moving... I think they cobbled together music and video from three separate nights, and it shows...

BrianD
04-13-2007, 06:03 PM
Got the DVD yesterday, it hasn't become my new favorite or anything but it's a decent DVD. Much better than the Keys DVD for sure. I love the setlist, but the performances seem very laid back, polished and smooth. Sounds to me like alot of touch up work has been done on this. I would also say I like the Tsongas SSOTS better.

From the 6 shows I saw Yes play in 2003/4, SSOTS was certainly much smoother in 2004 than in 2003 so that observation would be consistent with what I think was happening on those tours,

In contrast, I found their versions of Awaken and possibly AYAI to be better in 2003 than in 2004.

I note that Malcolm talked about AYAI at MSG being the 'best ever' - well it might have been an incredibly emotional scene (have got DVD and CD weeds), but even discounting the palaver at the end, it didn't really reach the heights of other performances in 2003/4

Mokoro
04-13-2007, 09:05 PM
hey all. New member here! I've ordered this dvd from the states (I'm in New Zealand) and can't WAIT.
Saw two shows in Australia during the 35th anniv tour.. Noticed this DVD contains the exact setlist.

I've been waiting something like this DVD for years!

Anyone else here been to the Melbourne or Sydney shows???

I was GIVEN a ticket to the Sydney show the night before at the Melbourne show... A very kind lady couldn't make it. So at midnight, my brother his friend and myself made the 7 hour or so drive, Melbourne - Sydney.

Turns out this free ticket was 5 rows back, dead center!!!!!!

I was STOKED!!!!!!

BrianD
04-14-2007, 12:17 AM
hey all. New member here! I've ordered this dvd from the states (I'm in New Zealand) and can't WAIT.
Saw two shows in Australia during the 35th anniv tour.. Noticed this DVD contains the exact setlist.

I've been waiting something like this DVD for years!

Anyone else here been to the Melbourne or Sydney shows???

I was GIVEN a ticket to the Sydney show the night before at the Melbourne show... A very kind lady couldn't make it. So at midnight, my brother his friend and myself made the 7 hour or so drive, Melbourne - Sydney.

Turns out this free ticket was 5 rows back, dead center!!!!!!

I was STOKED!!!!!!

Welcome to Yesfans Mokoro

I was at both of those concerts as were others on this board.

That was one amazing weekend.

Hope you stick around - look at the YesFANZ Chapter on this board - join YesFANZ (www.yesfanz.com (http://www.yesfanz.com)) if you haven't already done so. Many of us in YesFANZ were involved in getting Yes to Australia - the website has the details.

True Believer
04-14-2007, 01:05 AM
hey all. New member here! I've ordered this dvd from the states (I'm in New Zealand) and can't WAIT.
Saw two shows in Australia during the 35th anniv tour.. Noticed this DVD contains the exact setlist.

I've been waiting something like this DVD for years!

Anyone else here been to the Melbourne or Sydney shows???

I was GIVEN a ticket to the Sydney show the night before at the Melbourne show... A very kind lady couldn't make it. So at midnight, my brother his friend and myself made the 7 hour or so drive, Melbourne - Sydney.

Turns out this free ticket was 5 rows back, dead center!!!!!!

I was STOKED!!!!!!Hi Mokoro! Great to see another member from this neck of the woods!

djcub
04-14-2007, 10:39 PM
can anyone comment on the stage setup? I take it there isn't any Roger Dean involvement like in Tsongas. As a Floyd fan, I can always appreciate a good stage, and from time to time Yes doesn't seem to disappoint. Whats Montreux like?

YesJen357
04-15-2007, 12:17 PM
can anyone comment on the stage setup? I take it there isn't any Roger Dean involvement like in Tsongas. As a Floyd fan, I can always appreciate a good stage, and from time to time Yes doesn't seem to disappoint. Whats Montreux like?
The stage is your basic black with a few reflectorised diamonds spaced well apart, hung on the back wall. The lighting provides some added colour and gloss, especially where synchronised to the music. However don't expect the film to show very much of the stage effects. During the '03 tour, the dramatic conclusion part of Awaken had an impressive snow falling image, blazing across the set. It is hardly noticeable on the video. But then 'Mind Drive' with its strobe light visuals, on the 'Tsongas' film was a marked disappointment as well; - If you'd actually seen it live.
In all, don't expect any special visual delights in this show...But then the music speaks for itself, and no more is needed.
IMHO the only thing this show is lacking is more camera time on Chris!

allpurechance
04-19-2007, 02:44 AM
So, we've gotten this and An Evening Of Yes Music Plus on dvd in just the last couple of months or so.

In spite of outward appearances, it still really IS a good time to be a Yesfan!

Montreux is beautiful, wonderful stuff!It catches the band at a period where I felt they were really on, quite hot.The setlist, though truncated a little from other venues at the time, shimmers, glimmers and sparkles.Oh, that In The Presence Of!And once they tackle Magnification/Don't Kill The Whale and South Side Of The Sky, the band have fully taken flight.The ride from there is predictably glorious, especially for those who saw them at about that time.The Awaken near the end is just plain beautiful.I don't care how many times And You And I has been included in any live set, it still -isn't enough-!

The camera may not dwell long enough often enough on Chris Squire, but all it takes is one viewing of the otherwise fabulous ABWH dvd re-release, and you realize just how big a hole there is in Yes when he is absent.Oh, how I miss those bass pedals, those seamlessly executed sinuous basslines, while he's singing those divine backing vocals with Jon on that dvd!!!!

The release of this show constitutes full amelioration for that.

Mind Driver
04-19-2007, 07:59 AM
I bought both An Evening of Yes Music and Live at Montreaux at the same time. I just got around to viewing both of them.

The ABWH DVD is better than I thought. The solos at the beginning brought back some good memories of a very good show.

Montreaux is a good DVD in that they played some songs that most of us did not hear on the 2003 tour. I saw them at least two times (I think three) in 2003, and I've never seen "We Have Heaven", "Magnification", "In the Presence Of", and other tunes until I saw them on this DVD live. Rick does a nice job filling in for the orchestra on the Magnification tracks.

......two very good DVDs.

Faceintheplace
04-27-2007, 02:29 PM
Yeah, this show is much more in step with the setlists from the later half of 2002. It's almost identical to the setlist I saw Yes do in Ottawa 2002 except Rick played a different solo and Close to the Edge was played early into the show.

I seem to remember Close to the Edge being like on the Keys II disc, not that fast, but a well played runthrough.

Grover
05-20-2007, 11:56 AM
When I read a blurb that stated it as one of the best shows ever, I thought "yeah right" but it was better than I expected. I think they had been playing this setlist or most of it for months by this time, and were cooking along quite well. They often don't rehearse enough before a tour and the first few shows are more prone to errors. I still don't think they rehearsed Turn of the Century enough before Tsongas, because Steve and Jon are too tentative, each trying to stay in synch with the other instead of flowing with the music and knowing that the other will be in the right place at the right time. On this release (Montreux) I found that Jon was too low for the first few songs (though louder in the stereo mix than in 5.1 or DTS). The mix also loses some clarity in 5.1 or DTS. I'm not sure how much of Jon being low at the beginning is the mix and how much was him. At the 15 or so Yes shows that I've seen, I often think Jon's voice sounds weak at the start of the show, but it gets better and more clear during the show.

Wakefan
06-29-2007, 03:31 PM
Gonna go buy mine now for $9.99 @ FYE (formerly Tower Records & The Wherehouse--- here in Los Angeles)

gitsy
06-30-2007, 04:39 AM
You won't be disappointed.

BrianD
06-30-2007, 05:47 AM
I got it the other week. Brings back great memories of their 2003 Australian tour - basically the same setlist played a few months later. They really were playing well in 2003.

Buglunch
07-01-2007, 03:43 AM
They really were playing well in 2003.

YUP

Project Director
07-02-2007, 07:40 PM
Gonna go buy mine now for $9.99 @ FYE (formerly Tower Records & The Wherehouse--- here in Los Angeles)

I just bought it here in Oz the other day for a mere AUD $15. Sad that a new(ish) release from the lads would already be on the clearance table. It just goes to show what Philistines the average music buying public are.

Buglunch
07-03-2007, 04:09 AM
Same with movies; all big stores do now is move plastic discs and soon-to-obsolete players...

:rolleyes:

Bo Locks
07-03-2007, 04:43 AM
Same with movies; all big stores do now is move plastic discs and soon-to-obsolete players...You mean obsolete discs (the reason you're buying this movie cheap is because the special edition, collector's edition, ultimate edition (whatever) is coming out next week) and obsolete players (you can bet that if we can buy the hardware, they're working on how we can buy our entire software collection again but for the NEXT hardware format).

Sorry but I'm sick, twitter and basted.

Buglunch
07-04-2007, 02:51 AM
You mean obsolete discs (the reason you're buying this movie cheap is because the special edition, collector's edition, ultimate edition (whatever) is coming out next week) and obsolete players (you can bet that if we can buy the hardware, they're working on how we can buy our entire software collection again but for the NEXT hardware format).

Sorry but I'm sick, twitter and basted.

Nasty thing is DVDs were obsolete the day they first came out.
Not a great medium physically; VHS taped movies/sound got really good and Betamax was always superior.
Never assume the platforms we get are the best; proprietary Blu-Ray ahoy, oy Gevalt.

allpurechance
07-04-2007, 03:00 AM
The format may be obsolete, but this one at least is extremely glad, hugely happy we have this document, and it is a fine one, of the band from this period of time.It was right in this time frame when Yes were pretty fairly regularly laying me low in performance.Both myself and my sister(always nice to have a corroborating witness!LOL).

Buglunch
07-05-2007, 02:53 AM
DVD sound is really good and picture a lot clearer, true, and it's great they did record it when so many pivotal Yes concerts were not.

1yesfan
07-17-2007, 04:30 PM
Got the DVD yesterday, it hasn't become my new favorite or anything but it's a decent DVD. Much better than the Keys DVD for sure. I love the setlist, but the performances seem very laid back, polished and smooth. Sounds to me like alot of touch up work has been done on this. I would also say I like the Tsongas SSOTS better.


I agree this was TOUCHED UP. I hate when they do that instead of leaving it more raw. Betweem songs the crowd sounded great and the guy talking (raw), but the moment they starting playing I could here sound change. Another cripe I was that there were a TON of closeups of everyone but CHRIS. What gives with that!

PhillYes
07-22-2007, 02:53 AM
Another cripe I was that there were a TON of closeups of everyone but CHRIS. What gives with that!
I just finished watching the Montreux DVD. I was quite impressed with Chris's performance. They did sometimes ignore him, but overall he got a few spotlights, early in "Sunrise" and of course "Fish". It's definitely a feast for Steve fans, though. Many close-ups, and I was impressed with the solo "To Be Over". Jon has only a few "yelps", but he is not in his best voice. Way TOO many close-ups of him! Overall, they seemed to have fun and enjoy themselves, though. Rick seemed to enjoy "Awaken", I caught some new runs in his work. I wonder if he has any trouble keeping those vintage mini-moogs working, though?

Buglunch
07-23-2007, 07:08 AM
Heat and humidity, dust and age are real problems for old Minis like mine- a 1972; you can hear pitch hassles in Made in Cuba. Wakey hasn't responded to my questions on that yet
but he does answer plenty on his radio show in general.

Rick's Moog tech told me lots backstage in London, Ontario for 20 minutes.
Rick only had 2 old Minis then. 7 of 9 got lifted once in the 90s, OUCH.

Cygnus X-1
07-24-2007, 03:58 PM
Hello,

My first post here... I just bought the Montreux DVD (with the QPR Part 2 that I found in a french store??!!), I feel it's a great dvd, I really enjoy Steve Howe here, great playing!

But... I was really disappointed by Jon Anderson, well, I came here to find more about his performance because I was really surprised. He sings in a really strange way isn't he? I mean, sometimes, it seems that his voice is so thin, do you know what I mean?

Well, I don't want to be rude or anything, I just want to understand, if it's just me :D

I didn't find the perfect Yes dvd yet :( (but I really enjoy Tsongas)

YesJen357
07-24-2007, 11:39 PM
I don't think we have the perfect DVD YES show yet....
After numerous playings of this one, I find the directors overlooking of Chris annoys me more and more.....
I rate this one 7/10.
I hate to say it, 'cause I'll probably get flamed for this...But my personal view is that the closest to perfect show thus far is 'House of YES.'
Of course YES shows don't have to be perfect for me to enjoy them and of course I'm hoping for still more of them.

Buglunch
07-25-2007, 03:23 AM
Cygnus X-1:

Singing in a "mature male falsetto" ( Wakeman's description for Jon ) for decades and touring wears out a voice not trained classically. Jon's not in his twenties anymore.

Nice avatar!

Cygnus X-1
07-25-2007, 04:27 AM
Cygnus X-1:

Singing in a "mature male falsetto" ( Wakeman's description for Jon ) for decades and touring wears out a voice not trained classically. Jon's not in his twenties anymore.

Nice avatar!

Oh yes, I totally agree with you and I am aware of this. But I have seen a lot of Yes dvd and, there's still something wrong (tracklist or line-up or something) but it's rare that I feel the Jon Anderson's voice is so old. It's the first time indeed. It makes me sad as well and sometimes, I listen only to that, it's ok on "Awaken" (I don't know why as seen as it's quite high) but for example, on "Heart of the Sunrise", it's really bad I feel. Why don't they play other songs, or play them differently?

In an other way, we know that he still can sing them on others dvds so, I really wondered what's going on on this one. Maybe he was just tired, I don't know.

Thanks for my avatar :)

Albedo
07-25-2007, 12:37 PM
I don't think we have the perfect DVD YES show yet....
After numerous playings of this one, I find the directors overlooking of Chris annoys me more and more.....
I rate this one 7/10.
I hate to say it, 'cause I'll probably get flamed for this...But my personal view is that the closest to perfect show thus far is 'House of YES.'
Of course YES shows don't have to be perfect for me to enjoy them and of course I'm hoping for still more of them.
The best Chris DVD is Symphonic, the best Rick DVD is ABWH, for all it's flaws the Yessongs DVD is perhaps the single most exciting (CTTE at full speed), HOY is perhaps the most perfectly recorded (not counting symphonic). I still think Tsongas even with it's flaws is the most all around great band DVD with a long and varied set list, the acoustic set, Ritual, etc. Montreux is very good but I agree, not enough Chris, and the sound is somehow muted or processed in an odd way. But I enjoy it a lot and it finally captures Awaken with Rick on keys. Hey another great DVD is the Camden weed which has an incredible SSOTS on it ;)

Buglunch
07-26-2007, 07:29 AM
How about 9012Live?

Albedo
07-26-2007, 07:50 AM
How about 9012Live?
I like it too but it seems more like a "music video" than a live performance. Starship Trooper is nice as you finally get to see the audience.

Bo Locks
07-26-2007, 07:58 AM
... you finally get to see the audience.Not a criticism of you Albedo, just a pet gripe of mine. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE ******G AUDIENCE!!! I bought a band DVD. There are too many shot of the audience in House Of Yes. Who cares if they're "whooing" or not? Who's that holding his head? Go on, tell me.

Cygnus X-1
07-26-2007, 10:38 AM
ABWH dvd seems to be quite good indeed, I saw the trailer and I love it even if it's an electronic drum and Bill Bruford seems to not take the show seriously (or it's just my imagination)

YesJen357
07-26-2007, 01:53 PM
Who's that holding his head? Go on, tell me.
Well, I know who it looks like...But surely not???
Go on, tell me who you think it is.

YesJen357
07-26-2007, 01:57 PM
The best Chris DVD is Symphonic, the best Rick DVD is ABWH, for all it's flaws the Yessongs DVD is perhaps the single most exciting (CTTE at full speed), HOY is perhaps the most perfectly recorded (not counting symphonic). I still think Tsongas even with it's flaws is the most all around great band DVD with a long and varied set list, the acoustic set, Ritual, etc. Montreux is very good but I agree, not enough Chris, and the sound is somehow muted or processed in an odd way. But I enjoy it a lot and it finally captures Awaken with Rick on keys. Hey another great DVD is the Camden weed which has an incredible SSOTS on it ;)
Yea, I go along with you.
And I forgot about Symphonic.....
The one small negative about 'House of Yes' is that the samples (or repairs) are quite obvious. Example: just look at Jon's harp playing (er, miming) during Awaken.

Albedo
07-26-2007, 05:04 PM
Not a criticism of you Albedo, just a pet gripe of mine. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE ******G AUDIENCE!!! I bought a band DVD. There are too many shot of the audience in House Of Yes. Who cares if they're "whooing" or not? Who's that holding his head? Go on, tell me.
Heh heh, I understand. I just like to feel like I'm there at a live show and a little ambient audience sound between songs and occasional camera look-off is all I'm after. Not the lousy idiot crowd noise on many a weed.

Buglunch
07-27-2007, 06:14 AM
I like it too but it seems more like a "music video" than a live performance. Starship Trooper is nice as you finally get to see the audience.

My brother is in that Edmonton crowd; he has yet to see it to find himself. I was at the Vancouver show.
Great to see 'City of Love' live anytime and Tony hamming it up.
:rcking:

Just how much of it is edited and "improved" afterward?

YesJen357
07-28-2007, 11:33 AM
Not the lousy idiot crowd noise on many a weed.
I know....
That 'lousy idiot crowd' ruins most audience recordings from the US, in my humble opinion.
eg. New York 13/5/04. A great show. I was there...But I go to concerts and or listen to official releases (& weeds) to hear the musicians, not the hoons!

YesJen357
07-28-2007, 11:37 AM
Come on Bo Locks, you still haven't told us who the guy is in the audience holding his head on House of YES.......
:)

Steve Mahoney
07-29-2007, 10:55 PM
Finaly picked up the 2003 Montreux Yes dvd.
Great sound and picture quality.
A real dose of the shows in OZ in 2003.
Now what they needed was the Sydney , Australia audience in the dvd with.Then the DVD would be beyond even reviewing.

Steve

YesJen357
07-30-2007, 11:06 AM
Finaly picked up the 2003 Montreux Yes dvd.
Great sound and picture quality.
A real dose of the shows in OZ in 2003.
Now what they needed was the Sydney , Australia audience in the dvd with.Then the DVD would be beyond even reviewing.

Steve
Oh Steve, you do so speak the truth, Man!

YES at Sydney Entertainment Centre '03....
It don't get any better than this!

Eclipse_chaser
07-30-2007, 03:52 PM
can somebody give me more info on this release. when was this released and what is the availability. Is it the whole show ?

can i walk over to the music store and buy a copy ?

I know absolutely nothing about this so any help would be great.

Sorry if I repeat info here, but I haven't got time to read every page of this thread.

I just bought this DVD yesterday off the shelf at A&B Sound in Abbotsford, BC (east of Vancouver) for $20. Cdn.

I LOVE IT! It's the only Yes concert I have on DVD (the others are memories). The sound and picture are very clear. My DVD player is hooked up to our old stereo which is in good condition. Turned it up and enjoyed it thoroughly once I got into it, which only took a few moments because I love Siberian Khatru.

That's all for now. 8-) . . . Laurel

rememberer
08-03-2007, 10:10 PM
I really like this one. I think overall they are looking great and sounding great - even before anything cosmetic that was done to the audio, the music just really feels right on the mark. I bought it the week it came out and it's still one of my top favorite Yes DVDs.

I'd like it even better than Tsongas except Chris stuck to his guns to get Ritual on there and I do really appreciate that. Apparently I'm quite a pushover for TFTO material. :-)

allpurechance
08-03-2007, 11:46 PM
Apparently I'm quite a pushover for TFTO material. :-)


Me, too!Me, too.

lol

wolfhound
10-19-2007, 02:56 PM
My DVD just arrived. I love it!

It already ranks in my top 3, with KTA and Symphonic.

I love the focus on Steve. He was tight. They all seemed relaxed yet tight together. It's quite a smooth sound.

It's weird switching audio modes on my DVD player. Different things seem to gel in different ways. To be expected, I guess.

In the past, I've ragged on Steve having the more unprocessed guitar sound. In the DVD, it works really well. I can see why he'd been doing it this way.

It's a really good smooth YES concert. There's a very good vibe happening.

Dougnddeb
10-19-2007, 03:49 PM
My DVD just arrived. I love it!

It already ranks in my top 3, with KTA and Symphonic.

I love the focus on Steve. He was tight. They all seemed relaxed yet tight together. It's quite a smooth sound.

It's weird switching audio modes on my DVD player. Different things seem to gel in different ways. To be expected, I guess.

In the past, I've ragged on Steve having the more unprocessed guitar sound. In the DVD, it works really well. I can see why he'd been doing it this way.

It's a really good smooth YES concert. There's a very good vibe happening.


It is a great DVD, I love it!

Doug