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Bluetailfly

06-27-2004, 03:32 AM

I like Starship Trooper! I think when Steve Howe joined and they made The Yes Album, well that is where Yes found their defining sound. I think they rediscovered it around the time of the Keys recordings. So I think my opinion must put me in the Trooper camp.

JimBob

06-27-2004, 06:47 AM

100% Trooper

ycantibu

06-27-2004, 02:39 PM

YesWest all the way!

Timmo

06-27-2004, 04:33 PM

YesWest all the way!Damn, and I used to like you! :valintine

KIDDING! (But how can anyone PREFER popTrevorYes? I can TOLERATE it, but I just don't get it!)

TIM
Venice, CA

ycantibu

06-27-2004, 05:29 PM

I adore the music of YesWest. I'm not ashamed to say it - I love rock music!

Damn, and I used to like you! :valintine

KIDDING! (But how can anyone PREFER popTrevorYes? I can TOLERATE it, but I just don't get it!)

TIM
Venice, CA

cinderella

06-27-2004, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by muscla_1

(But how can anyone PREFER popTrevorYes? I can TOLERATE it, but I just don't get it!)

You have to like Trevor's guitar style, which I do! It's a whole 'nother animal from Steve's ! :valintine

Silent_wings

06-27-2004, 10:37 PM

I'm a Yes whole...
hole..
ole..
What ever I like it all

But I'm a child of the Generator
I love Trevor's stuff
If it weren't for Yes West I wouldn't be a Yes fan.

Amy

06-27-2004, 10:43 PM

I'm a Yes whole...
hole..
ole..
What ever I like it all

But I'm a child of the Generator
I love Trevor's stuff
If it weren't for Yes West I wouldn't be a Yes fan.

I find that very surprising...you are the same age as me. Did you know of Yes before the Generator?

Silent_wings

06-27-2004, 10:47 PM

Nope my future hubby Patrick locked me in a car and made me listen to 90125. ;)

GoD57

06-27-2004, 11:04 PM

Trooper and proud of it!!!

Bill

C0ops

06-28-2004, 12:13 AM

Trooper

Faceintheplace

06-28-2004, 12:21 AM

I like the occasional dose of Yeswest but I'm primarly a Trooper.

cinderella

06-28-2004, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by Amy

I find that very surprising...you are the same age as me. Did you know of Yes before the Generator?

I bought the Yes Album back in 1971, and I always loved them, but when I heard Owner Of A Lonely Heart, and the entire 90125 album, it was unbelievable!! I'm a Generator through and through.

Scooty

06-28-2004, 02:17 AM

I bought the Yes Album back in 1971, and I always loved them, but when I heard Owner Of A Lonely Heart, and the entire 90125 album, it was unbelievable!! I'm a Generator through and through.

Im sorry......

:eeek: :lol:

Just Kidding!!

Scoot (A Trooper till the day i die!)

bbb

06-28-2004, 02:23 AM

All Yes is good Yes. I love it all. My first Yes show was Dortmund on the 90125 tour and it was stunning. And now they're playing better than ever.

We're lucky to have 'em.

Scooty

06-28-2004, 02:29 AM

You know, to be fair, Cinderella..and all Westers out there my first gig was the 90125 tour..shoot..i was all of 11 years old so this was my first opportunity to see YES EVER! And I was simply blown away..absolutely flabergasted..and i had such a wonderful experience...i think we all have to understand (all jokes aside..cause I dont want ANYONE on this site to think that Im a Trevor basher, I like to have fun and tease, that quite honestly without 90125 we wouldnt have YES as we now them NOW to enjoy..doesnt mean as i have grown older i am not as "fond" of the Trev years as i was when i was 11...but I acjknowledge the importanve of those years as a part of Yeshistory that is very very important....but I truly remain a TROOPER!

Scoot

Timmo

06-28-2004, 03:51 AM

I'm a Yes whole...
hole..
ole..
What ever I like it all

But I'm a child of the Generator
I love Trevor's stuff
If it weren't for Yes West I wouldn't be a Yes fan.You have to remember, Kathy likes (whisper)...KISS.

Even though she's a "child of the Generator," she DID give me a "Relayer" birthday cake, so we overlook some things...

TIM
Venice, CA

(Kathy, you know i'm just yankin' yer chain! I LOVE YOU!)

Silent_wings

06-28-2004, 03:53 AM

Love ya too kiddo :valintine

Scooty

06-28-2004, 04:07 AM

You have to remember, Kathy likes (whisper)...KISS.

Even though she's a "child of the Generator," she DID give me a "Relayer" birthday cake, so we overlook some things...

TIM
Venice, CA

(Kathy, you know i'm just yankin' yer chain! I LOVE YOU!)

and where was i for the presentation of this glorious cake???

so saaaaaaad that I miss this stuff!!

scoot

Timmo

06-28-2004, 04:10 AM

and where was i for the presentation of this glorious cake???

so saaaaaaad that I miss this stuff!!

scootAh, you'll be here soon enough! or so we all hope!

Tim
Venice, CA

cinderella

06-28-2004, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by scootyes89

You know, to be fair, Cinderella..and all Westers out there my first gig was the 90125 tour..shoot..i was all of 11 years old so this was my first opportunity to see YES EVER! And I was simply blown away..absolutely flabergasted..and i had such a wonderful experience...i think we all have to understand (all jokes aside..cause I dont want ANYONE on this site to think that Im a Trevor basher, I like to have fun and tease, that quite honestly without 90125 we wouldnt have YES as we now them NOW to enjoy..doesnt mean as i have grown older i am not as "fond" of the Trev years as i was when i was 11...but I acjknowledge the importanve of those years as a part of Yeshistory that is very very important....but I truly remain a TROOPER!

Scoot

Very nicely stated. Scoot, I think you're so cool. I wish all the Troopers were like you. :kissme:

RJE

06-28-2004, 02:21 PM

I like both so I guess that makes me a wooper. :D

SallyKhatru

06-28-2004, 02:25 PM

I consider myself more a Trooper, but I definitely like YesWest as well. I really appreciate Trevor's work and absolutely love for example 90125 and TALK. I think Trev did great work there, amazing and he didn't have an easy job. Kudos to him for that.
My favourite line-up still is the "classic" line-up, mainly because of Rick, but also because I'ms absolutely into all the pieces they did together.
Cinderella - LOVE your avatar, lol. Woud love to have such a pic of Rick *grins*:valintine: :-)))

paulovajao

06-28-2004, 02:27 PM

Yeswest Definitly!!!!

ofeuillerat

06-28-2004, 04:42 PM

I like both as long as the tunes are good.
Well I'd say If I had to choose I'd prefer Trooper tunes with Trevor's solos than Yeswest tunes with Howe's solos !

hiddendragonet

06-28-2004, 05:24 PM

Trooper all day, no doubt about it.

There are some great moments on the West works too, and I will enjoy a spin or two once in awhile. But it cannot compare.

Generator would be my favorite of them, though. Drama I can honestly say I never listen to.

HD

timeandaword13

06-28-2004, 07:46 PM

trooper plain and simple

SallyKhatru

06-29-2004, 01:16 PM

Well soemt ime ago I just figured DRAMA isn't as bad as everybody says, try to see it as a non-YES album and maybe you'll like it. There are some good moments on that album.

ofeuillerat

06-29-2004, 01:43 PM

Well soemt ime ago I just figured DRAMA isn't as bad as everybody says, try to see it as a non-YES album and maybe you'll like it. There are some good moments on that album.

DRAMA is a great record !
Some of the best Squire playing, an unusual funkier Steve Howe, some great Alan White breaks, a a few great tunes as well.
Especially rediscover it through the expanded version, amazing stuff, I love it.
The only thing I can complain about is some of Horn's vocals, but it's not that bad anyway. It's note supposed to sound like Anderson, just see it as a different thing, and btw Squire's vocals balance the weakness of Horn's parts.

DRAMA deserves more,
give it a new a new ear

prem895

06-29-2004, 03:14 PM

Trooper!!!!!!!!!!!!

mood for today

06-29-2004, 03:30 PM

Damn, he was HOT. Great pic!

But I'd rather listen to Steve.

TIM
Venice, CA

is there something you're not telling us tim? or did the vodka and painkillers for your ribs get you staring at that trevor pic?

oh. trooper including keys all the way.

Ryan

06-29-2004, 03:32 PM

i am definently a trooper. but i like all yes

stevie

06-29-2004, 03:45 PM

100% Trooper!

But I listen to Yeswest at times, it's ok.

PeterCologne

06-29-2004, 06:37 PM

Yeswest! For me it's quite simple as that: Being Yeswest means, that you love all incarnations of this band. And if you are lucky to get hooked into Trevors work with the band, you will feel, that Rabin-Yes has as much depth, complexity and beauty as the so called Trooper/Howe-Yes. For me, Yeswest just means to enjoy more great Yes-music.

Greetings

Peter

06-29-2004, 06:43 PM

Well-said, Peter!

Timmo

06-29-2004, 07:00 PM

is there something you're not telling us tim? or did the vodka and painkillers for your ribs get you staring at that trevor pic?

oh. trooper including keys all the way.I have no sexual preference with regard to gender, I thought that was patently obvious.

TIM
Venice, CA

Sheerah

06-29-2004, 07:07 PM

and where was i for the presentation of this glorious cake???

so saaaaaaad that I miss this stuff!!

scoot

I'm crying with you, Dawg!
:crybby:

AGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
My body's been taken over by Randy Jackson!!!!!!!
Help me!!!!!!!

Oh, BTW.... Trooper!
But then again, I do really like quite a bit of the West stuff. Infact, one of my absolute favorite songs is Leave It!

Timmo

06-29-2004, 07:16 PM

I'm crying with you, Dawg!
:crybby:

AGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
My body's been taken over by Randy Jackson!!!!!!!
Help me!!!!!!!

Oh, BTW.... Trooper!
But then again, I do really like quite a bit of the West stuff. Infact, one of my absolute favorite songs is Leave It! :offtopic: I was so bummed! I saw that Melissa Etheridge was going to be in sacto, and I started to e-mail you guys...and the concert was on the 27th! WAAAAH!

She's worth it just for her guitarist, Philip Sayce.

He is my favorite guitarist ever (sorry Steve and Stevie Ray), and he's only 27.

His style is "Technocolor Blues," and he is a cross between Jimi Hendrix, Jimi Page (at his non-sloppiest), Stevie Ray Vaughn, and GOD.

Remind me to bug you guys in August, I think she's swinging through California again.

TIM
Venice, CA

OK, back on topic. PS: I missed you guys at my party too!

altaeria

07-01-2004, 11:30 AM

I almost consider myself a "Panther" since DRAMA completely intrigues me.
However, since RELAYER slightly edges it out as my favorite YES album ... and AND YOU AND I is my favorite single song ... I suppose I'd have to be a "Trooper".

teejay

07-03-2004, 12:08 PM

So what?

What is more important - where you came from? where you are now? where you are going? or all 3?

If Yes West had not existed it is doubtful that Yes would exist today. We all have our own preferences and we all like what we like, but do we really need to split into 2 camps?

Why not split into further splinter groups - Bankers for the 1st 2 albums; Kayelites for the first 3 (and possibly the Yes West stuff as well - might have to form some kind of negotiated federation there); Brufordians for everything up to CTTE & including ABWH & Union?; Whitists for everything from TFTO onwards; Wakeys; Morazonites; Hornys/ Dramatists /Downesians (Panthers? - oh Yeah the cover); Rabinites; Unionists (doubt there'll be many of them); Sherwooders; Igorettes; Symphonics;Ultimists. If I've missed anyone my apologies.

Just as long as everyone respects everyone else's personal opinion, we should all get along fine.

I'm a Brufordian Whitist myself - or as someone earlier posted a Yes-Whole.

Love, kisses and good Cheer to all.
Teejay

umgekehrt

07-03-2004, 12:43 PM

...Wakeys; Morazonites; Hornys/ Dramatists /Downesians (Panthers? - oh Yeah the cover)...

LOL yeah I'm a Horny :nono: :ban:

cinderella

07-03-2004, 01:32 PM

:valintine I prefer to be called a "Trevie." "Rabinite" just sounds too biblical. :D

teejay

07-03-2004, 03:12 PM

:valintine I prefer to be called a "Trevie." "Rabinite" just sounds too biblical. :D

But then he is a guitar God*

Then again I'm using mostly surnames - I didn't for Igor though I suppose Khoroshevians would do I just liked the sound of Igorettes. Having re read some of your previous postys though I think Trevie would suit just fine.

*Just for balance so are Steve & Peter & ok possibly Billy too (dont want to upset Sherwooders, Bankers and Howelings - forgot to add that one last time doh, neither did I do Andersonists or Squirelets.

love kisses & cheers to all
Teejay

Amy

07-04-2004, 12:13 AM

We all have our own preferences and we all like what we like, but do we really need to split into 2 camps?

Teejay

It's pretty hard not to, because it's 2 different types of music.
We all love each other here anyway, though!

Squire*Fan725

07-04-2004, 01:36 AM

I'm a YESWHOLE, but tend to lean towards the Trooper side mostly...But then again, it all has Squire in it, so either way, I'm a happy Squire Worshipper! :hearts:

sissywoods

07-16-2004, 04:23 PM

Both!! Still trying to understand this seperation concept that should not be among us as yes fans.

TheGatesOfDelirium

07-16-2004, 04:32 PM

I'm a YESWHOLE, but tend to lean towards the Trooper side mostly. :hearts: i love all of it, it took me a few years to appreciate trevor sound, and i even went to the union tour ! a good friend of mine (my he rest in peace) was a huge yes fan, and got me to love "TALK".. sinc then, i appreciate yes as a whole, with stronger feelings twards the anderson,howe,wakeman,squire,white lineup.. but, i think anything with JON ANDERSON rules !!!

Gabriel

07-16-2004, 05:04 PM

It all depends on my mood for a day ;)

Well seriously..i'm JUST this side of the Trooper line. But Yeswest has given me some truely fantastic music as much as the trooper side..how can anyone say Endless Dream, Shoot High Aim Low, Final Eyes, Lift Me Up, The More We Live are a shame to Yes music is beyond me!