CTTE Revisited!!!

[rahtreelimbs]

I hadn't heard CTTE in a while 'til this weekend on a long roadtrip. What it would have been to be 25 when this came out. It seems I can't come away without being "blown away" after listening to CTTE after a short hiatis!

With the limited technology that was to be had in '72, compared to today, this album is just brilliant!!!

I am a firm believer that God had a hand in this album of such sonic magnitude!!!:headset:

[RABARKS]

Agreed. But didn't it take you some time to figure out what the hell they were doing in the opening sequence? It certainly took me some time! And by then I allready knew Gates....

[rahtreelimbs]

Agreed. But didn't it take you some time to figure out what the hell they were doing in the opening sequence? It certainly took me some time! And by then I allready knew Gates....

The beginning I didn't analysis all that much. What am I missing???

[RABARKS]

Well, I just remember standing in the recordstore with headphones on listening to CTTE for the first time and finding the opening sequence very chaotic.........but interesting!

[Yes.2]

God? God wrote and recorded CTTE?? Get real!LOL!:lmao:

Unless you mean Eddie Offord is GOD.....I might agree with you there.


Humanity is quite cabable, I assure you.

limited technology?? Oh-dear!!:lmao: I would also like to point out that all the current digital-do-dads of today don't hold one candle to the true Anilog gear of that time period. Nowadays, It's not getting better....it's only getting cheaper....

Nothing...I repete NOTHING beats a Neumann gold sputtered condecer mic and a tube driven preamp.....

[rahtreelimbs]

God? God wrote and recorded CTTE?? Get real!LOL!:lmao:

Unless you mean Eddie Offord is GOD.....I might agree with you there.


Humanity is quite cabable, I assure you.

limited technology?? Oh-dear!!:lmao: I would also like to point out that all the current digital-do-dads of today don't hold one candle to the true Anilog gear of that time period. Nowadays, It's not getting better....it's only getting cheaper....

Nothing...I repete NOTHING beats a Neumann gold sputtered condecer mic and a tube driven preamp.....


Sorry I stepped on your itty bitty toes!!!

General comments don't need your ball bustin'!!!

[inside_out]

I hadn't heard CTTE in a while 'til this weekend on a long roadtrip. What it would have been to be 25 when this came out. It seems I can't come away without being "blown away" after listening to CTTE after a short hiatis!

With the limited technology that was to be had in '72, compared to today, this album is just brilliant!!!

I am a firm believer that God had a hand in this album of such sonic magnitude!!!:headset:

I cannot get filled up with this song, I've tried "blown away"
everytime. The rest of the album isn't bad either.

[rahtreelimbs]

Well, I just remember standing in the recordstore with headphones on listening to CTTE for the first time and finding the opening sequence very chaotic.........but interesting!


Chaotic in every sense of the word!

Listen to enough times it makes perfect sense!!!:dj:

[CybrKhatru]

LOL...

I have a very vivid memory of a High School Yes Conversion.

A guy named Chuck (who is now a big Yes fan, btw) got subjected to the first 5 minutes of CTTE by yours truly on a bus trip when we were in H.S.

I don't think I'll ever forget watching his jaw drop.

[RickyG]

God? God wrote and recorded CTTE?? Get real!LOL!:lmao:

Unless you mean Eddie Offord is GOD.....I might agree with you there.


Humanity is quite cabable, I assure you.

limited technology?? Oh-dear!!:lmao: I would also like to point out that all the current digital-do-dads of today don't hold one candle to the true Anilog gear of that time period. Nowadays, It's not getting better....it's only getting cheaper....

Nothing...I repete NOTHING beats a Neumann gold sputtered condecer mic and a tube driven preamp.....

I agree with you 100% about the technology issue. The technology of the 1970's was infinitely better for making good music, and getting good sounds, than what we are all using these days. The only "benefit" of today's technology, besides being cheaper, is that it allows some things to be done much faster and more efficiently.... but that in itself is a double edged sword.

Now regarding your other comments....
....I've only ever given negative rep once and it was as a joke.
But I was immediately tempted to neg rep you for your ripping into Rahtreelimb's God comment.

For one thing I am so tired of that sort of completely unprovoked put down. Nothing in his comment was a negative statement that warranted responding to in such a manner.

But secondly and possibly more importantly, Rahtree was right!!!

Anybody who creates knows about the higher self, or "Great Spirit" or "God", or the presence that can enter in when conditions are conducive. Divine inspiration.

Anybody who spends alot of time creating music or art, who has devoted their self-discipline to it, knows that there tends to be two versions of what happens:

1. There's the ability to apply technique and skill and "manufacture" a piece of music based on one's learned skills.

2. And then there's the times when the inspiration comes in and transcends your consciousness, when the music seems to clearly come from somewhere else, where it just appears as a gift. When the music operates on a higher and more expansive level than what one could imagine or devise by applying skill and technique alone. Of course in these situations skill and technique are utilized to serve the inspiration.

I agree with Rahtreelimb that "God" or a higher more expansive dimension of consciousness clearly entered into the creation of Close To The Edge!!


PS - Humanity IS the eyes and ears and hands of God here on the three dimensional 3rd stone from the Sun. When you tune up/in and listen and observe, you can hear and see it. This I can assure you. :winknudge ;)

[rahtreelimbs]

I agree with you 100% about the technology issue. The technology of the 1970's was infinitely better for making good music, and getting good sounds, than what we are all using these days. The only "benefit" of today's technology, besides being cheaper, is that it allows some things to be done much faster and more efficiently.... but that in itself is a double edged sword.

Now regarding your other comments....
....I've only ever given negative rep once and it was as a joke.
But I was immediately tempted to neg rep you for your ripping into Rahtreelimb's God comment.

For one thing I am so tired of that sort of completely unprovoked put down. Nothing in his comment was a negative statement that warranted responding to in such a manner.

But secondly and possibly more importantly, Rahtree was right!!!

Anybody who creates knows about the higher self, or "Great Spirit" or "God", or the presence that can enter in when conditions are conducive. Divine inspiration.

Anybody who spends alot of time creating music or art, who has devoted their self-discipline to it, knows that there tends to be two versions of what happens:

1. There's the ability to apply technique and skill and "manufacture" a piece of music based on one's learned skills.

2. And then there's the times when the inspiration comes in and transcends your consciousness, when the music seems to clearly come from somewhere else, where it just appears as a gift. When the music operates on a higher and more expansive level than what one could imagine or devise by applying skill and technique alone. Of course in these situations skill and technique are utilized to serve the inspiration.

I agree with Rahtreelimb that "God" or a higher more expansive dimension of consciousness clearly entered into the creation of Close To The Edge!!


PS - Humanity IS the eyes and ears and hands of God here on the three dimensional 3rd stone from the Sun. When you tune up/in and listen and observe, you can hear and see it. This I can assure you. :winknudge ;)



Thank You!!!

Some get the "god" comment......some don't!!!

The ability to get better music in the CTTE age is true. The "swinging of the microphone" during the guitar solo to get the "Doppler" effect in Siberian Kahtru is one example. Not that it is bad it was just seems primitive.

One thing IMHO stands clear.............whether you like Yes, Genesis, Jethroe Tull, Led Zepplin................etc. The bands of that era had more soul and passion that that of today............listen...........it is easy to see!!!

[CybrKhatru]

The existence of "spontaneous creation"...of coming up with musical ideas just sitting there at the piano...is enough proof for me of the existence of Spirit...whatever form it takes....

[Yes.2]

I agree with you 100% about the technology issue. The technology of the 1970's was infinitely better for making good music, and getting good sounds, than what we are all using these days. The only "benefit" of today's technology, besides being cheaper, is that it allows some things to be done much faster and more efficiently.... but that in itself is a double edged sword.

Now regarding your other comments....
....I've only ever given negative rep once and it was as a joke.
But I was immediately tempted to neg rep you for your ripping into Rahtreelimb's God comment.

For one thing I am so tired of that sort of completely unprovoked put down. Nothing in his comment was a negative statement that warranted responding to in such a manner.

But secondly and possibly more importantly, Rahtree was right!!!

Anybody who creates knows about the higher self, or "Great Spirit" or "God", or the presence that can enter in when conditions are conducive. Divine inspiration.

Anybody who spends alot of time creating music or art, who has devoted their self-discipline to it, knows that there tends to be two versions of what happens:

1. There's the ability to apply technique and skill and "manufacture" a piece of music based on one's learned skills.

2. And then there's the times when the inspiration comes in and transcends your consciousness, when the music seems to clearly come from somewhere else, where it just appears as a gift. When the music operates on a higher and more expansive level than what one could imagine or devise by applying skill and technique alone. Of course in these situations skill and technique are utilized to serve the inspiration.

I agree with Rahtreelimb that "God" or a higher more expansive dimension of consciousness clearly entered into the creation of Close To The Edge!!


PS - Humanity IS the eyes and ears and hands of God here on the three dimensional 3rd stone from the Sun. When you tune up/in and listen and observe, you can hear and see it. This I can assure you. :winknudge ;)


I found the notion of "It's all because of God that the artist was able via trial-error-perfection of their craft to create such a gem" quite offensive too. CTTE does not prove the exsistance of GOD....It proves the genius of Steve Howe, Chris Squire, Wakeman, Anderson and Bruford. I do understand that Rahtreelimb's comment was his own personal belief and hope he and you understand that I was only spouting my personal belief too...My point was equaly important to the points brot up by Rahtreelimb. I am thankful you chose to address my post before dropping the negrep hammer....I myself hate to give negrep only to have negrep pop right back in my face. :dgdbll:

You and everyone on Earth are completely uncapable/unqualified of assuring/prooving that Rahtreelimb's being "right" as you say in pointing to an exsistence of a God via human creation(there's creationalizm in the details). When people start giving superstitions props publicly and then take a threatining stance to people that disagree(negrep) they are politicly incorrect and counterproductive towards the evolution of Humanity....That's just how I see it.

I for one have recorded and preformend oodls and oodls of 'pushing the envilope' music throughout my life knowing fully well that it was by will alone that I set my mind and body in motion(~Frank Herbert)...

[RickyG]

I guess you could say that I'm one who likes to treat others as they treat me.. In saying that I mean; Pop me with negrep and you can be sure you'll get one in return.

I found the notion of "It's all because of God that the artist was able via trial-error-perfection of their craft to create such a gem" stance quite offensive. CTTE does not prove the exsistance of GOD....It proves the genius of Steve Howe, Chris Squire, Wakeman, Anderson and Bruford.

You and anyone on Earth are completely uncapable/unqualified of proving that he's "right" in pointing to the exsistence of a God via human creation. When people start giving superstitions props publicly and then take a threatining stance to people that disagree(negrep) they are politicly incorrect and counterproductive towards the evolution of Humanity....

You are apparently quite easily offended and have alot of anger that you need to unload. This thread was started as a bit of a celebration of CTTE and you seem to need to piss on it.

"You and anyone on Earth...."
But you are apparently qualified to know and have experienced more than ANYONE on Earth to be able to say this!!! Does that mean that you are God?

counterproductive towards the evolution of Humanity.... Wow man, that's a good one!! I've never had that one thrown at me before..... counter-productive towards the evolution of Humanity, not to mention politically incorrect.... I'll have to remember that one!!

Gee, now who is it that is taking offense and a threatening stance toward someone else for expressing their view points.....???

I suggest that if you want to continue this absurdity to please start another thread for it so that we can get back to the original intention of celebrating CTTE.

[RickyG]

I for one have recorded and preformend oodls and oodls of 'pushing the envilope' music throughout my life knowing fully well that it was by will alone that I set my mind and body in motion(~Frank Herbert)...

Well obviously my post immediately above where I just quoted and responded to your post was done while you were editing said post.

Let me ask you one thing, based on your edits:
How can you be so absolutely sure that your music (or YES' music) came from "will alone", AND that this "will" is exclusively "yours" - devoid of any connection or sourcing in a reality that is greater than you??

I mean, really, how can you be so sure??? Have you seen the Answer, the final TRUTH behind all manifest reality/illusion??

I guess you are God!! :winknudge

[Yes.2]

Well obviously my post immediately above where I just quoted and responded to your post was done while you were editing said post.

Let me ask you one thing, based on your edits:
How can you be so absolutely sure that your music came from "will alone", AND that this "will" is exclusively "yours" - devoid of any connection or sourcing in a reality that is greater than you??

I mean, really, how can you be so sure??? Have you seen the Answer, the final TRUTH behind all manifest reality/illusion??

I guess you are God!! :winknudge


First of all....I don't think I'm God....Please stop trying to put words in my mouth...

The whole concept of God as a noun instead of a verb is one of pure con and corruption....I like to reffer to the underlying conscious in the Universe as "The Source". We're all one and with focus we can tap into the pure Source for insparation...

[MrZuLu]

:Wow: geeez you guys!!!!

[pedro skychaser]

yeah can we just agree that "there was some "magic" in the air"...hahahahahha---jon's words....hahahahha "hot in the summer of love 72!!!!!"

my fave version is symphonic for the final igetUpsIgetDowns...

[allpurechance]

The great Bill Bruford was partially responsible for Close To The Edge's creation.

In the years since, the great Alan White has come to own it.All three songs.

imho