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07-05-2002, 09:40 AM
O.K. The idea's a bit silly since their musical formats do differ, but the math works! ;)
What would this foursome perform on tour? What would be a challenge for which half of the team? What would sound "better" because of the addition of the "other two" members from "that other" band?
Before even suggesting any tunes I have to say that it's the Beatles' tunes that would improve the most - no offence to John or George, but Pete and Roger could make the Beatle's, often lighter fare, rock! At other times, they would be well-equipted to handle their softer material, too.
Let's start with a few from the Beatles, say: "Come Together", "Helter Skelter", "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band" and reprise - realize that Paul still sings lead where he normally does, leaving Roger and Pete to help with the back-up vocals.
O.K, now for the other direction: Hmmmmmm I'm having a bit of trouble with this part. I think a dyed-in-the-wool WhoHead would be better at this. My instinct is to just list ballads, but that can't be right. 'Little help here?
07-05-2002, 07:37 PM
Were you aware that Ringo's son Zak Starkey is the drummer now with 'The Who'.
So dad may leave the drum work to his boy, and Paul on bass ? It could be a really good idea . . .
and Paul could hit those high notes Roger can no longer reach.
07-05-2002, 07:58 PM
I'd just love to hear what these guys would do if they created an album together. I think Paul & Pete could write some great tunes together - given the chance. I don't see this collaboration as far fetched as some may think. It would be like a Travelling Wilburys affair.
07-06-2002, 08:30 AM
This is a great idea.
First, the current drummer at hand, Zak is a great drummer for the Who. Kenny Jones and Simon Phillips have there own merits but there is something about Zak. Zak can do those Keith Moon like fillers and one can just feel his energy. Check them out as this will probably be it. Going to see them in PA and TX.
I think the Who side could also help with Paperback Writer.
The Beatles side could help with:
Squeezebox - There is great humor in this song. Paul and Ringo could really make this one fun.
Magic Bus - The bantering of this song begs to be done with Paul and Ringo.
Boris The Spider - Would be a lovely tribute to John.
I'm Free - I have always liked the studio version of this song as the vocals have always (to me) been rough when done live. McCartney could really be an asset in this area.
A Quick One While He's Away - I think all Who fans would love to see A Quick One. McCartney could be a great vocal asset and Ringo could fit in with the drumming antics of this song. I have never seen Quick One or Squeezebox live and these are two Who songs that ae great live.
This could be done and it would be a great honor to both bands.
New material ala Traveling Wilburry's is a great idea. Pete's Rough Mix album with Ronnie Lane is also a good comparison as it had the likes of Charlie Watts, Boz Burell, John Entwistle, and Eric Clapton on various songs.
07-06-2002, 09:25 AM
Yes, Anitoch, I was aware of Zak's working with the Who. I'm pleased to read how well he's working out.
And the supporting act for this tour? None other than X.Y.Z.!
Now there's a double-header tour with real potential!
O.K. So now you've got all eight of them up there for a two or three song finale. What do they play? (NOT "Louie, Louie".) First suggestion, not anything from The Beatles, Led Zepplin, The Who or Yes. How about if they cover a song by Queen or Heart or maybe even King Crimson? "21st Century Schizoid Man"?! Ha ha ha. As if!
07-06-2002, 09:31 AM
I've read that McCartney and Townshend were once talking about songwriting when Pete dared Paul to write a hit song with only one chord. Paul responded by composing HELEN WHEELS, which chuggs along on a constant G chord.
As different as The Beatles and The Who were, there are probably only a small percentage of Who fans that don't also love the Beatles. While many may consider the Beatles and Stones as the two greatest British bands of the 60's, I personally feel the Who had an edge over the Rolling Stones.
As far as this imaginary line up of Pete, Paul, Roger and Ringo goes, I wouldn't expect anyone to sing lead on anything they didn't sing lead on to begin with originally. The exception could be on songs that were sung by Harrison, Moon, Entwistle or Lennon. I can just about imagine Ringo doing Keith's parts on BELL BOY, Roger singing Lennon's parts on A DAY IN THE LIFE, Pete singing Entwistle's HEAVEN AND HELL, or Roger singing Harrison's IT'S ALL TOO MUCH.
If they played a concert together, here's a list of tunes that would be interesting to see in the set list:
Sgt.Pepper > With A Little Help From My Friends
Strawberry Fields Forever
All You Need Is Love
Golden Slumbers > Carry That Weight > The End
Band On The Run
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
It's All Too Much
She's Given Up Talking
Let It Be
Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey
Heaven And Hell
I Can See For Miles
Who Are You
I Found Out (from Entwistle's Whistle Rhymes lp)
Won't Get Fooled Again
Amazing Journey > Sparks
Heart To Hang Onto
Song Is Over
The Real Me
I would have Pete, Paul, Roger and Ringo supported by John 'Rabbit' Bundrick (keys) Paul 'Wix' Wickens (keys) Zak Starkey (drums) and a second bassist to fill in for when McCartney was on guitar or piano. Wouldn't it be cool to hear Chris Squire playing bass on My Generation or The Real Me ?
I don't think anything like this is likely to happen at all, but it would be so cool if it did. It would have to be a 3 hour show.
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