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Orbert
07-31-2006, 01:20 PM
I finally listened to Open Your Eyes, which I'd downloaded off the net over 2 years ago. I had to, of course, because it didn't make sense that Yes is my favorite band and there was an official album by them that I've never even heard. Why did I wait so long? I'm not sure. I have at least one copy of most albums, and have downloaded and listened to more recent things like The Word is Live and Songs from Tsongas. This was the last one, I now have it all, legal issues aside. There's just so much other stuff out there, so much to check out, and so little time for real listening, especially an album which has been so harshly received in general. Maybe part of me was afraid that this album would be as bad as people say.

It's not that bad! There, I said it. Very "song-oriented", not a lot of five-minute instrumental breaks, or even 30-second breaks for that matter. But the songs are nice, the vocal harmonies are tight and clean, and the production is very good. I didn't hear anything that leaped out at me as bad, which is what I was really expecting, given what has been said about this album.

So... it's not "really" a Yes album, but more of a Conspiracy album that was confiscated, mutated, and released as a Yes album? Doesn't bother me much. It says Yes on the cover. In fact, that's all it says, so that really does say it all (even if some say that's misleading).

It doesn't seem very adventurous, and perhaps it was not meant to be. We have high standards and high expectations for Yes, so when they fail to meet those expectations, some people react rather strongly. It was probably a good thing that my expectations were so low, because it allowed me to be pleasantly surprised. I heard the three-part harmonies that I love; I heard Steve whip out a few licks here and there, which is always nice; I don't remember hearing a lot of keyboards, which was somewhat disappointing, but that's still better than hearing bad keyboards (cheesy sounds, tumeni notes, etc.)

Overall, a nonbad experience. Nongreat, but nonbad. I'll give it another listen in the next day or two, and see what happens. But as it stands, after all these years and all those albums, I still know of no bad Yes albums. And that's good.

MrZuLu
07-31-2006, 01:29 PM
thank you Orbert...

when I think of bad music Sex Pistols pops in my mind!

Open Yours Eyes at least takes some musically dexterity to replicate

not to mention Chris Squire plays bass!

yes_angel
07-31-2006, 01:44 PM
I keep trying to like OYE,,,,i'm not saying it's good or bad,,,,it just does nothing for me cept the song open your eyes itself is ok

DC
07-31-2006, 02:19 PM
Even Louis Armstrong released some works that aren't classics. One has to expect that a band or artist isn't always going to release a masterwork.

Anyway, who has the time to listen only to 20 minute songs? Life's too short.

Orbert
07-31-2006, 03:42 PM
Even Louis Armstrong released some works that aren't classics. One has to expect that a band or artist isn't always going to release a masterwork.
True, not everything by Louis was a classic, but I don't know of a "bad" album by Satch, either. Any recording of Louis, you can pretty much put on and listen to, and it'll be fine even if it doesn't blow you away. I was actually expecting OYE to be "bad", and it wasn't. It just wasn't mind-boggling.

Anyway, who has the time to listen only to 20 minute songs? Life's too short.
True. As a collection of "songs", OYE is not bad at all. I can imagine that there are people who prefer it because it isn't full of prog pretentiousness and five-minute instrumentals.

DC
07-31-2006, 04:08 PM
Yes made a bad album????? :o

Oh yeah I forgot, Tales..... ha ha ha ha......... :D

luckeydoug1
07-31-2006, 06:20 PM
Yes made a bad album????? :o

Oh yeah I forgot, Tales..... ha ha ha ha......... :D

Sorry DC, that would be Relayer! :D

I am another Yes fan who likes the music on Open Your Eyes.

YYY
07-31-2006, 06:53 PM
Yes made a bad album????? :o

Oh yeah I forgot, Tales..... ha ha ha ha......... :D


I hope you really don't feel that way.

I truly feel sorry for anyone you can't experience the deep profound magical beauty of TALES...it truly is a loss and one of the great YES albums of their heydey. I agree with Jon, Tales is a wonderful album. Screw Rick! Just because he couldn't figure out what to contribute to it on his own. Who's fault is that.

Now as far as OPEN YOUR EYES. Call it what you want or try to defend it but I haven't heard anyone yet describe it as a great album. Besides the usual conscious lyrics it really does nothing for me in terms of the music. All the trademark sounds and technical ability are there but the songs are simply not INSPIRED. Great YES music takes you to a higher level. Great YES music has always been judged on a higher scale than most other bands. I really think it's an injustice to YES to compare them to most of the 'run of the meal' music we hear day in and day out. Just because it's technically better or more adventurous than 90% of other bands doesn't mean it's a good YES album.

umgekehrt
07-31-2006, 07:39 PM
OYE is good pop Yes. If they had put their mind on it they could've made "New State Of Mind" a hit like OOALH.

yes_angel
07-31-2006, 08:02 PM
Yes made a bad album????? :o

Oh yeah I forgot, Tales..... ha ha ha ha......... :Ddon't even go there DC!!

Mc-Merc
07-31-2006, 09:00 PM
Umgy, I see by your avatar that you still have the fever!

And DC, does that stand for David Coulthard?

Back to topic:

I recently bought OYE myself. I can listen to it, which is an improvement on other YES albums (3129875, Crap Generator and Baulk, which I will NEVER buy), but I really couldn't say that it's outstanding in any way. It's just an album that I can listen to...

cinderella
07-31-2006, 10:03 PM
I like it better than Tormato and Going For The One.

cactus jon
07-31-2006, 10:17 PM
OYE has some hidden gem lyrics:
I have always been inspired by: "staring at the golden heights, wondering are you ready for the climb?" And then the coda: "staring at the golden heights, without a doubt you're ready for the climb"

gathernear
07-31-2006, 10:19 PM
Yes made a bad album????? :o

Oh yeah I forgot, Tales..... ha ha ha ha......... :D


Them's fightin' words!! Take it back!