The New 9012Live at last

[YesJen357]

Well, it was worth the wait!
The new release allows a view of the show uninterrupted by those horrible 'Charlex' effects.
There are more camera angles, a great 6 minutes of Roundabout which wasn't included on the original and funny behind the scenes takes, which show the guys back-stage and in transit between venues.
In the fine print of the credits, there is a mention of the fact that the original masters of this show had been lost. That meant quite some work to re-do the whole show apparently. Well, this they have done brilliantly, as the 5.1 sound is truly magical.
I would hope that many of the folk who criticised the Tsongas DVD will be a lot more satisfied with this one; despite the fact that it seems there's just no pleasing some people!
Thank goodness I don't have to rely on that lousy Brazilian release which had mono sound and a fuzzy blurred picture, any more. (that one's been tossed in the rubbish bin)
This one hits the mark....Perfectly.

[ToBeOver]

I know some people who already have this one and they've said it's very good, but everywhere I've looked, it says the release date is April 18th.

Can anyone give me a clue as to where I can find it before then? ;)

I remember that Brazilian release, YesJen... it was pretty bad! I look forward to seeing this one!

:keyboard:

[YesJen357]

My copy came from Amazon UK where the release date was mid March.
It was also NTSC which is unusual as PAL is what I always get when ordering from them.

[YesJen357]

Oh, I just recalled that on the temporary Yesfans site, Scooty posted that it was available in shops all over the US and that the release date must have been put forward.
I know that's not much help, but perhaps it has made its way to a shop near you.

[brotherofmine]

Yes I just received mine this morning and it is great except for one strange annomoly (spelling!) when I try to play the Directors Cut on 'Power DVD' the menu freezes and won't let me play it, so instead I have to play it on 'Real One' which seems to work. Any one else noticed any problems like this?

[YesJen357]

Not with mine.

[YesJen357]

It may not be the full concert, but it's way ahead of no concert at all.
Er; in other words, - it is better than nothing!
Just remember how good the sound and picture is.....There are plenty of positives.

Live in Philly is a 'part' show. But it is a terrible commercial release, - quality wise.
This may be the best thing we have in our video collections, apart from Symphonic, of course.

[JaneEyre]

I've read elsewhere that in a backstage interview with Jon, you can see Trevor's bum in the background. I'm certain that was accidental......

[DesertCat]

Yeah, was great to see this make it out on DVD. As soon as it arrived I pretty much sat down and watched everything on it. I have the VHS also but, as is often the case, the extras on the DVD make it special.

The interviews were cool, if a bit rough. They cover much of what caused Yes to break up in 1980 and then move on to how Trevor became involved. Is pretty funny to see Trevor's absolute disgust at the punk scene exploding in London when he got there.

Anyway, definitely worth it and at a reasonable price as well.

[ham]

Is this the one with Jon using that daft mic attached to his belt???




:DJsmilie:

[flatopfreak]

The fake names used as alias's were great---Michael Hunt, Jack Mehoff-Bobby Dread for Jon.

I realize this is almost 22 years ago, but they were downright Junior Highish at times.

But I love it-worth the $20.

[Jackaranda]

I've read elsewhere that in a backstage interview with Jon, you can see Trevor's bum in the background. I'm certain that was accidental......

That's true Jane. I didn't think it was accidental.

Anyway, I said in 1985 I wish I could see the concert film without all the effects, and 21 years later I have my wish. It's great. We had a blast watching it. And the interviews and such are also very good indeed.

I give it a 10 out of 10.

[spoukeego]

Worth it for the interviews (very candid) and behind-the-scenes (I like how Trevor says, "They're beating sh*t INTO this guy!") alone. Nice to see footage that was previously replaced with cheesey fx. I had forgotten about all the makeup they wore for this one. Bizarre. Very Silence Of The Lambs. Still wish it was the entire show!!!

[Steve St Thomas]

This is a great DVD, ESPECIALLY for those interviews. There are some very ironic things being said in those, apart from the fact that you have to use a hearing aid to hear Chris Squire speak. And I'm just an avid studier of body language and the way people say things. And what they're saying with words, and what they're truly saying with their eyes and movements.

[KPatrick]

I've read elsewhere that in a backstage interview with Jon, you can see Trevor's bum in the background. I'm certain that was accidental......

There are two bums, actually. You get a brief shot of Tony Kaye's as well. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[KPatrick]

And I'm just an avid studier of body language and the way people say things. And what they're saying with words, and what they're truly saying with their eyes and movements.

OK, so......?

I thought the interviews were incredibly candid. The backstage stuff was just great.

[cinderella]

I just got mine today. I haven't watched yet.

Oh but I will. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Cinderella528/N99%20Smileys/cheekygrin.gif

[ackleyt]

I just bought it myself at Barnes and Nobles here in NJ. I just saw the documentary. Pretty hilarious ... and embarassing too! The Yes guys are going to cringe watching this! What a flash back to the 80s. I had one of those gray 80s jackets some fan was wearing! Yikes!

[cinderella]

I had one of those gray 80s jackets some fan was wearing! Yikes!

LOL!!

I'm watching the 9012LIVE dvd now.

Those people are wearing all my Yes clothes. Chris has on my sweatshirt, fans are wearing my t-shirts.

Geeze Trevor just said sh*t and fu*ck!! Yikes!

Oooo there's his bare butt! Gawd I love this dvd!

[cinderella]

Wow, so Trevor owns a home in Austin, Texas, eh?

Gee, if it weren't for that darned restraining order.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Cinderella528/N99%20Smileys/silverpenny013Hmmm.gif



Trevor swears too much! lol!!!

They all do!!

[fovman]

I just received and watched 9012LIVE also...

Cindy, I bet you liked the clip where Trevor bared his butt....running to the bathroom....

....and disappointed that they fuzzed it out.

[cinderella]

I just received and watched 9012LIVE also...

Cindy, I bet you liked the clip where Trevor bared his butt....running to the bathroom....

....and disappointed that they fuzzed it out.

LOL! I also saw Tony's butt. Not so fuzzed out. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Cinderella528/N99%20Smileys/tongue.gif

[cinderella]

I just received and watched 9012LIVE also...


Is Trevor in the interview part?
I've watched the first several minutes and he's not there.

[cinderella]

Oh okay there's Trevor....never mind. :winknudge

[Symbol]

I have looked in all my local Best Buy's and Circuit City's and haven't found it yet.

[cinderella]

I ordered it from Amazon. I was desperate.

[marklovesyes]

Wow - what a fun DVD. I just watched it. The interviews and "All Access" bonuses are great. Very, very cool. And it brings back so many memories. That tour was my first YES show. What a card that Tony Kaye is. Funny cat. Great attitude, he has.

[cinderella]

Yeah it gives me an entirely different view of them. Swearing and acting silly. Talking about the cute girls in the front row. Just typical guys. ;)
I enjoyed it very much.

[Scooty]

Yeah it gives me an entirely different view of them. Swearing and acting silly. Talking about the cute girls in the front row. Just typical guys. ;)
I enjoyed it very much.

Rock and Roll Cinderelly...rock and roll.

I find the interviews and backstage stuff to be worth the price of admission alone..

Has anyone else noticed on the board mix version of Roundabout..there is a moment when Chris hits his bass pedal...my woofer rattled my entire apartment....nice!!

[YesForSure.]

I'll probably get this eventually. It's amazing how much Jon changed in terms of appearance 1979-1983, isn't it..

[ackleyt]

Does anyone know if that's Jon's ex in the documentary? That girl dressed in like a princess outfit talking to him???

[Joe]

I can't get enough of the Directors Cut version.
Ya know, that was a good tour!

[Steve St Thomas]

OK, so......?

I thought the interviews were incredibly candid. The backstage stuff was just great.

Hey I ain't saying nothing! I'm a dangler of carrots. ;)

But I laughed a bit when Chris Squire was talking about insecurity and it being an essential part of artistic creation, and that anyone who is ''secure'' artistically has ''lost it'' in affect --- and then cut sequence to Jon Anderson saying he's exactly where he wants to be artistically, or words to that affect.

I had to rewind it because I was laughing so much at the irony, or just the editing and the way that was done. Like watching a conversation about two people not knowing they're talking to eachother.

[Overpop]

Some of you are dissing the Charlex imagry. I think you forget that at the time it was cutting edge and ahead of it's time. Today, any kid can do it in Adobe After Effects. Personally, I like it. I will buy the DVD. This was Soderberg's early directing and I think he did a great job.

[cinderella]

That girl dressed in like a princess outfit talking to him???

Yeah why was she dressed like that? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Cinderella528/N99%20Smileys/confused.gif

[spoukeego]

Does anyone know if that's Jon's ex in the documentary? That girl dressed in like a princess outfit talking to him???

It's not his ex. It's just some spaz.

[Faceintheplace]

Cause she's a groupie with a lot of free time on her hands.

[ackleyt]

Jon must have met some wild and bizarre "groupies" based on his "cosmic energy!"

[KPatrick]

But I laughed a bit when Chris Squire was talking about insecurity and it being an essential part of artistic creation, and that anyone who is ''secure'' artistically has ''lost it'' in affect --- and then cut sequence to Jon Anderson saying he's exactly where he wants to be artistically, or words to that affect.

Chris' interview was off the charts on the ridiculous-rock-god scale. My God, is he pleased with himself! Whereas Jon seems very earthbound and normal. As much as he can. Chris answers questions like he's sending them down from Mt. Sinai. That's the only pre-1991 interview footage I've ever seen of them, and I don't know what accounts for the difference, but Chris' whole interview could be a SPINAL TAP outtake. Hard to be intimidating and ridiculous at the same time, but if anyone can pull that off, it is The Doctor.

[pedro skychaser]

Chris' interview was off the charts on the ridiculous-rock-god scale. My God, is he pleased with himself! Whereas Jon seems very earthbound and normal. As much as he can. Chris answers questions like he's sending them down from Mt. Sinai. That's the only pre-1991 interview footage I've ever seen of them, and I don't know what accounts for the difference, but Chris' whole interview could be a SPINAL TAP outtake. Hard to be intimidating and ridiculous at the same time, but if anyone can pull that off, it is The Doctor.


yeah its more Frank Thring* than Frank Spencer.

*famous english/aussie actor noted for deep voice,drawling delivery+imperious manner...

[relayeire]

I'm looking forward to seeing what the band were doing while the stock footage was rolling... mine copy is supposedly in the mail...

[wolfhound]

Mine came today. It's a great DVD.

I'd forgotten how impressive Trevor Rabin is ! ! The guy handles the job and does it with a confidence. Starship Trooper is ungodly. I saw this version of Yes at the Santa Barbara County Bowl. I remember it was a great show, but I must have been stunned at the time. The details of Trevor's performance had blurred somewhat.

The interviews are great. I'll need to take some time and try to figure out what Chris is saying. Some parts, I hear. Most of it was in whispers though.

The original 24-track recording is lost??? How exactly does that happen ?? Oh well, thank goodness this DVD is available ! ! !

BTW, during part of Trevor's ungodly lead on ST, he shows a brief sad, pained, or maybe just an emotional moment as he plays. That is very cool in conjunction with the notes that are coming from his guitar.

[Scottie]

BTW, during part of Trevor's ungodly lead on ST, he shows a brief sad, pained, or maybe just an emotional moment as he plays. That is very cool in conjunction with the notes that are coming from his guitar.


I was browsing at a movie/CD store a couple of weeks ago and during this, a particular version of S. Trooper was playing.

I looked for some one to ask what CD is this from because I’ve never heard this version before? It sounded awesome.

He said “it’s not a CD it’s the new DVD.”

[Steve St Thomas]

Chris' interview was off the charts on the ridiculous-rock-god scale. My God, is he pleased with himself! Whereas Jon seems very earthbound and normal. As much as he can. Chris answers questions like he's sending them down from Mt. Sinai. That's the only pre-1991 interview footage I've ever seen of them, and I don't know what accounts for the difference, but Chris' whole interview could be a SPINAL TAP outtake. Hard to be intimidating and ridiculous at the same time, but if anyone can pull that off, it is The Doctor.

Yea and Jon looks up a lot when he talks. It means half the crap he's making up as he goes along! LOL! Eghhh, I use the term crap liberally. What I mean is, he tends to exaggerate and imaginate some of what he's answering, it's all in the ''looking up'' when ''recalling'' information. It tends to show a likelihood that its part truth and part fiction.

My wife, no fan of Yes by a long shot, had one word 'blurbs' watching each member speak in the interview section. She did a lot of study and research into body language and ''the speaking eye''. For Chris Squire -- she said ''Diva''. For Jon Anderson --- ''Liar''. Her words not mine. But I don't mind quoting them, cuz she's cool.

[True Believer]

Still waiting on mine to arrive .....

Much gnashing of teeth!

[Steve St Thomas]

.... and Alan White she said ''Honest''.

Of all of them, she liked him the most. He was straightforward, face value, no bull----. Said it as it was, with no airs. Looked directly when speaking, said things with conviction and belief.

As opposed to Chris Squire, who talks almost incoherently and softly. Engages the interviewer in direct eye contact, but is amazingly distant nevertheless. Is right in front of the camera, but is miles away away from it.

Or Jon Anderson, who looks away as often as possible to ''look up'' and sift through his imagination what answer he feels suits the question. It does not necessarily make it a truthful answer. It is an answer nonetheless.

This is just observation mind you, not Judgement. Everybody has their own way of speaking. I look away when speaking, being a person nervous in making eye contact when making my points or addressing something. Part embarassment at my own views, part wanting to be somewhere else when saying them.

[Faceintheplace]

I thought the interviews were very Spinal Tap as well, especially Chris and Jon's. Chris seemed to be either on no sleep, hung over, on sedatives or possibly all three. Rock and roll, rock and roll. Old footage wise the brief interview segments with Chris in the Time and a Word tv special from 1970 is more in line with the jovial Chris Squire I'm usually used to seeing in interview footage so in this case I think it's just a case of road-burn. The behind the scenes featurette also had bits straight out of Spinal Tap. Jon wasn't kidding when he said "I saw that movie and I thought 'that's us!'"

The concert itself is great, esepcially without the stock footage. I'm very glad they were able to put that together. When I saw the excerpts form 9012Live on Yesyears and Greatest Video Hits it made me think that it looked like a great show but the added in bits get in the way. It's a shame "Hearts" wasn't filmed, it would have been nice to have had in there but oh well. Steve Howe will always be my favorite Yes guitarist and QPR and Yes Symphonic will always be my favorite official live stuff to watch but this is a great DVD for the fact that all of 90125 except Our Song and Hearts is played and the killer version of Starship Trooper.

[pedro skychaser]

Yea and Jon looks up a lot when he talks. It means half the crap he's making up as he goes along! LOL! Eghhh, I use the term crap liberally. What I mean is, he tends to exaggerate and imaginate some of what he's answering, it's all in the ''looking up'' when ''recalling'' information. It tends to show a likelihood that its part truth and part fiction.

My wife, no fan of Yes by a long shot, had one word 'blurbs' watching each member speak in the interview section. She did a lot of study and research into body language and ''the speaking eye''. For Chris Squire -- she said ''Diva''. For Jon Anderson --- ''Liar''. Her words not mine. But I don't mind quoting them, cuz she's cool.

ISN'T there a distinction between looking up left+up right?---as far as i can recall 1 is future looking,1 past looking -would like to find out!! i do know you should never fidget with your nose while stating something!!

[Steve St Thomas]

ISN'T there a distinction between looking up left+up right?---as far as i can recall 1 is future looking,1 past looking -would like to find out!! i do know you should never fidget with your nose while stating something!!

Something to do with visual. She's just explained it to me, but I was never great at dictation.

I'm a people watcher as it is, so this is more observation than criticism. You can talk as you like!

Was watching this Robbie Williams ''Secrets Exposed'' show, and one serious secret that made me laugh was that the song ''Angels'' was written by a guy in Dublin. He was friends with Robbie and showed him the song in its early stages, made a dictaphone tape of Robbie singing it. A year later its a huge smash hit. Guy in Dublin gets no credit. Gets a settlement from William's ''team'' for £7,500.00. Programme asked the serious question, if there is outright denial that the song was taken from this guy without credit, why a cash settlement?

The best thing was......... watching Robbie Williams talk about ''Angels''. At one point he's looking directly to camera when asked about it. At the point he says ''I'm really proud of that song'', he turns completely away, looking to the side. After saying this, he then directs his attention back to camera. It was one of the most telltale ''you are such a ......'' I've seen yet. They showed tons of interviews of him talking about the song. Not one was believeable.

People carry things on their faces. There's just somethings you can't hide.

[Steve St Thomas]

...and you're right. Never ever fidget with your nose, or brush your face when talking.

It's a telltale sign what you're saying is 'false'. It's how stores can catch a shoplifter, just by the way they leave the store. Brushing the face, touching the nose, pretty good signs of ''something's up''.

Chewing the fingernails is of course the easiest indication of unassuredness, like when Paul McCartney in the Anthology video announces the ''new'' Beatles song 'Free As A Bird'. Clearly unsure of what the reaction will be. But The Beatles are great studies in body & facial language because they're so clearly documented. There's great moments where you can just tell George did not want to be there. One in particular is when Paul tries to coax another ''oldie'' out of him, to play one more song (these are the ''jam'' sessions of Paul, George & Ringo). Harrison aquiesces, but is none too pleased and announces this is the last one. But it's the look on his face that carries the weight of the message, that he clearly does not want to do it, and was quite happy playing what they did for the cameras.

I'll have to watch the interviews on 9012Live again. I was watching their faces, I can't clearly recall everything that was said apart from that one Squire/Anderson exception. But they were definitely the most candid interviews I've ever seen of Yes.

It kinda explains why I'm not much of a Steve Howe fan 'personality' wise. I'm sure he's a nice person though ;)

[podo]

Still waiting on mine to arrive .....

Much gnashing of teeth!


Anne, where did you order it from ?? Im presuming Amazon.

I checked in Red Eye yesterday, but they didnt have it

[podo]

Anne, where did you order it from ?? Im presuming Amazon.

I checked in Red Eye yesterday, but they didnt have it


I checked in Red Eye today and they did have it, so I bought it.

[True Believer]

I checked in Red Eye today and they did have it, so I bought it.
Yes, I ordered it from Amazon, Rog. Still waiting!

[YesJen357]

I ordered from Amazon UK. The release date was more than a month earlier than the US.
I also note that the actual shipping time for Amazon US is much longer than the UK., for whatever reason.

[True Believer]

Yaaay! Mine arrived today! Know what I'll be doing tonight .....

[Joe]

I'm really digging this DVD!

The sound quality is excellent!

[YesJen357]

The sound quality certainly is excellent. Especially in 5.1
Did you notice the mention in the credits where it said that the original masters had been lost so that some serious reworking was required.
A brilliant effort, no doubt. I wish they could work the same feat with 'Live In Philly!'

[podo]

Ive only played the concert , with no special efeects.. Its great ! No doubt about it, Rabin is excellent.

There sure is a lot of makeup isnt there ! lol

[True Believer]

Just watched part of the concert and the interviews. Doesn't Jon look ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS????

[podo]

Just watched part of the concert and the interviews. Doesn't Jon look ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS????

oh Anne ! your so predictable ! lol

[Yescelt]

emmmmmm...????? NO!

Just watched part of the concert and the interviews. Doesn't Jon look ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS????

[Hacman]

Just got a chance to watch a little last night. Still in a little 80s retro shock with those outfits!

Very good sound and camera work. How old was Trevor? Geez, he looks like he's maybe 25 there. The performances were very good, made better by the enthusiasm and energy that was apparent.

The 90125 material they excelled on, of course, but I thought the versions of AGP and Roundabout were pretty good. I was hoping for more from SST, but it was a lot less interesting, in my eyes, than I had hoped.

Well worth the price. The backstage stuff is very interesting and Mike, you have great eyes, spotting Krista carrying the guitar at the end of the show!

[True Believer]

oh Anne ! your so predictable ! lol


Your point is .......?


;)

[frosted]

Finally got my copy and It's great! Well worth the wait.

[Albedo]

I got this one a couple of weeks ago and it's pretty good. It seems a bit odd for a live concert in that you can't see or hear the audience very much except when Trev and Chris go up to the front of the crowd. It almost seems more like a studio shoot. None the less I enjoyed it a lot. Seems some of the backstage preshow footage was shot in Cleveland? At least that looked like the old Richfield Coliseum.

Nice hair Chris.

[YesJen357]

Albedo, perhaps the audience aren't worth listening to. I have certainly formed a very strong opinion of that after being quite disappointed by crowd behaviour on many of my YES audience recordings. Thesedays I try to collect sound-boards only, for that reason.

[Albedo]

Albedo, perhaps the audience aren't worth listening to. I have certainly formed a very strong opinion of that after being quite disappointed by crowd behaviour on many of my YES audience recordings. Thesedays I try to collect sound-boards only, for that reason.
LOL - we have both commented about the rudeness of fans at times. Some come only to talk to each other during Awaken - wtf? I still like some polite audience response in the live shows, else it seems a bit ... sterile.

[YesJen357]

Yes Albedo, I do know what you mean.
You have reminded me that for example; - Deborah's Symphony (Paris, Symphonic Tour) is one such aud. recording which IS enhanced by the sound of an appreciative audience who applaud and cheer in all the right places.
I hadn't thought of 9012Live as missing anything in 'audience participation' but on reflection, I think you are quite correct!
I'll still give the DVD 10/10 though.

[Jackaranda]

I watched it yesterday for the first time in a while, and again, I was really impressed by the interviews and the backstage footage. Very interesting what the band members have to say at that time, and how they talk about certain songs "not working", the fans (they obviously notice who's out there) and the general clowning. They are having a good time, no doubt about it.