Toltec

Released in 1996. What are your thoughts on this recording?

Toltec
Jon Anderson
1996

All songs written by Jon Anderson
except
*Quick Words* co-written with Luis Perez
*Building Bridges* co-written with Eduardo del Signore
*Ave Verum* written by Worlfgang Amadeus Mozart

PART I

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The Book Opens
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Quick Words (Talk-Talk)
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Sixteen, sixteen
Going on thirty-two
It's a delicate time
That of knowing
Yet understanding nothing
Then being alone

Twenty-one
Be no clearer yet
Yet the first steps
Looking for the mystery school

Talk, talk is easy
Talk talk whatever it takes to know that
Talk, talk is crazy
Only can you be alive from looking within
Your heart and soul
Talk, talk is easy
Easily we get to coming
Easily we get to knowing

Quick words
Sharp tongue
Fascinate
Aglow
Bright sky
Quick words
See how
We fly
This storm
This love
Electrify
Quick words
We surely testify
Quick words, quick words
Quick words, quick words

Eighteen, eighteen, age of innocence
Thrown away to the wind
Just like a pilgrim
Twenty-one, be the key of life
Realizing how it suddenly is delivered

Shall we play the game, I ask,
I'm willing to learn
Teach me of this wilderness easily
Walk me high as I walked the mountain
Hand in hand in mystery light
Afraid of nothing, nothing can touch me

Never speak to me
I'd be the dumb one of dreams
Made passive by this searching for wonder
It abounds all around the screens
It procreates this very day
I'm astounded that I didn't know

Talk, talk is crazy
Talk talk whatever it takes to know that
Talk, talk is crazy
Only can you come alive from looking within
Your heart and soul
Talk, talk is easy
Easily we get to coming
Easily we get to knowing

Talk to me so clear
This bulge in our open space
Is dreaming by the spell by my seeing
Tis the sound of thunder makes me cry
I believe I'd laugh until I die
Transform all these messages of freedom

Distant as a distant star
He climbing the sky
Suspended on the waterfall of reason
He would shout the will to rescue me
And whisper words so easily
I'm eighteen and I don't believe
I'm twenty-one and I cannot see
Listening in the power of silence

Talk talk is crazy
One word and I'm running for the President of Life
Talk, talk is easy
Just as if you're meant to believe every word they're saying to you
Talk, talk is crazy
Only can we find ourselves from searching within
Talk talk is easy
Talk, talk whatever it takes to know that
Talk, talk is crazy
Baby!
Just as if you're meant to believe every word they're saying to you
Talk, talk is easy
How we decide on the giving of power.

Quick words
Sharp tongue
Fascinate
Aglow
Bright sky
Quick words
See how
We fly
This storm
This love
Electrify
Quick words
We surely testify

Cool wind
High clouds
Bright sun
My sky
Quick words
Sharp eyes
Do justify
This earth
This sea
This planet life
Quick words
We hear them
Everyday

Sing it to the south of me
Sing it to the north of me
Sing it to the eastern soul
Holding me in the western world
How we get along
This pilgrim's way
In search of Castenada
And the worlds of tomorrow


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Shall We Play the Game
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Semati Siyonpme
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(phoenetic)
Ay co mana bay daba sima
Ay co mana bay daba sima
Sah bay day batama manah kabay
Pa nay dabida bay say no nay

Sing it to the south of me
Sing it to the north of me
Sing it to the eastern song
Holding me in the western world
How we get along
This pilgrim's way
In search of ?
In the world of tomorrow


PART II

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Good Day Morning
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Good day morning brother eagle
Good day wonder sister sky
We walk hand in hand with one love
We walk through this ancient land

Good day weather father evening
Good day wisdom Mother Life
We walk hand in hand with your world
We fly through this ancient land


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Leap Into the Inconceivable
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Of all the new, new numbers
Shouted out beside the mountain
Glowing in the night

I couldn't see so clear
I'd run the risk of hoping
Everything was all right

Then it hits you
Flashing faster than
Even words are no longer valid
Or reasonable in this life

The choice is mesmerising,
Contemplating, Castaneding every fear
But if the fear subsides
I take a chance and leap into the inconceivable
Wake me quickly
Wake me stealthily
Wake me quickly
Wake me up into the real world again
See me fly to escape this earthly conversation
True to form again
To extend the quietest regions
As we venture to forbidden regions
As before the sun
That dominates my movements higher
We expect it all to justify

Of all the new, new numbers
Shouted out beside the river
Flowing in the night

Make no mistake in taking chances
As you leap into the world of now

Safe religion at last declining you
All is One
Redefining your every move again
Building a bridge through where
The ship of Life pulls in
Building a bridge to set you free
We will walk this true believer
Here to honor life
Be the strength of love
And all you're meant to be

We all agreed to meet
This long hot summer, long ago
At last this song could be replayed

They say through fascination
All in all this invitation
For if we die tomorrow
Never knowing the truth
There'd be no real reason
To life without hope
Without feeling this
Precious true gift
To be able to see
Then finally come home


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Song of Home
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(phoenetic)
La
Say oh day go toe ma
Say oh see go joe ah
Do wa you wandaree
Do wa te mandaree
Shalom

La
Tay oh day go joe ma
Tay oh see go joe wa
Do wa you wandaree
Do what you wandaree
Shalom

Crue
Do ah ka baby who
Who
He ah oh he ah
Aha daddy song

Trow
Say oh day go jo ma
Tay oh see go jo ah
Do wa you wandaree
Do wa you mandaree
Shalom


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Building Bridges
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Surely like you say the more we realize
Surely there'll come a time for letting go (before leting go)
Come a time building bridges
Come a time mending all that is

Now we build the bridges that we walk upon
Now we breathe the peace that connects us (us)
Speaking with the voice of understanding
Singing in the rhythmic science of the sky

The earth is waiting for a season change
To set the role of cross-culture wisdom

Better sounds you choose never let you down
Then you might easily turn around.

Now we build the bridges that we walk upon
Now we breathe the peace that connects us (us)
Speaking with the voice of understanding
Singing in the rhythmic science of the sky

Of the sky

Good day morning brother eagle
Good day wonder sister sky
We walk hand in hand with your love
We walk through this ancient line

Good day dreamers always dreaming
Good day moonlight all is form
We dance hand in hand with one love
We walk through this ancient land

Now we build the bridges that we walk upon
Now we breathe the peace that connects us us
Speaking with the voice of understanding
Singing in the rhythmic science of the sky

Surely like you say the more we realize
Surely there'll come a time before letting go
Come a time building bridges
Come a time mending all that is

Ooh yeah yeah yeah
Ooh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

Now we build the bridges that we walk upon
Now we breathe the peace that connects us us
Speaking with the voice of understanding
Singing in the rhythmic science of the sky


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Sound and Color
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The spirit moves as I spiral inwardly
I have read about it
Don't ask me questions
How do I turn around on the spot?

Sound can acknowledge and reveal
The very nature of the body line
Color coexists as a meter to the soul

Sound can acknowledge and reveal
The very nature of the body line
Color coexists as a meter to the soul

So you don't need an excuse to be happy
Just forgive and forget

So you don't need an excuse to be happy
Just forgive and forget

They say the mystics they live in the clouds
And they prob'ly love it

They say the mystics they live in the clouds
And they prob'ly love it
Yes they prob'ly love it
Yes they prob'ly love it


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Longwalker Speaks
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Longwalker Speaks

The rattle is a voice given to us by Mother Earth
She can't talk to us like we talk in a voice
So we have to create a voice for Her
That the people will hear.

So who did we go to?
We didn't have the knowledge
As humans
Because we're limited as to our abilities
In the spiritual world

But because Mother Earth deals with life and death
Every second that the clock goes around
That she's so familiar
That we take the elements
How do we get them?
We have to go to the thing live

So we go to an ant hill
And there's a ceremony and there's song
There's prayers that go with it
And we ask the ants for help

And in asking them for this help
They bring us stones
From where ever they collect them
We don't ask them where
It's enough that they bring them to us

We collect these stones
And we put them in these rattles
And, uh, fifty-two of them
Each one is a voice from the past

And the people say
"Man, they laugh at that"
And I say
"Laugh if you want, but, listen...
While you're making fun, open one ear
To reality.
Let the other one be happy, and destructive"

So, the stones that the ants bring
When we lay our people to rest in the natural way
Not in a coffin, but in a natural way
The little creapers and crawlers come
And they distribute our body
Evenly, back into Mother Earth

We become one with Her
We become productive
See.. uh.. we're using
We never leave
We go back to the earth
And "dust to dust" they say
In due time
We're blown into the atmosphere
We come down in rain and snow
And this rain and snow is absorbed
By all creation again

It goes into the water
We're drinking it agian
We're eating it again
We become productive

So how can Man not save our own brothers
With creation?
We are just one massive cell
With so much energy and beauty
That the short time on the physical form
It's such a sin, a waste to tie it up in all the destruction

This is the voice that is going into each little stone
We put in that rattle
All this power, knowledge, energy
Then.....







PART III

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Maazo Maazo
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(phoenetic)
Maazo maazo
Nasca tilespi naazo
Saca tay no co blanco
Say wah tee mung my bay

Weeee!

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[The lyrics of MAZOO
are wrong because those lyrics are in spanish. -ANA MARIA]

Mazoo mazoo,
r½scate el espinazo,
s½cate un ojo blanco,
saguata ma mai bey

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Enter Ye the Mystery School
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Ave Verum
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See through this teaching life
Shines around my being
Out in the mists of timelessness
I see your face
Hold me closer now
Each and every feeling now is come
At last this majesty is God

Hear me through your love
See me in the light you are
Hold me closer to the earth
And all that gives (And all that is)
Now I feel your true light
Now I see your pure light
Now I hold this love within my heart

Is come
God of love of light will shine
Is come is come at last

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Ave Verum Corpus

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Ave, ave, verum corpus
natum de Marâa Virgine.
Vere passum, im molatum
in cruce pro homine.
cujus latus, perforatum
un da fluxit sanguine.
Esto nobis prae gustatum
in mortis examine, in mortis examine.

[Changes to Mazoo and Ave Verum contributed by ANA MARIA]

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(Transcribed by *m*)


From: celeste@bright.net (merry celeste)
To: yesman@smartlink.net


*YESMAN*

He [Jon] emailed me last night!! I am still glowing.
He sent me the last line
of Quick Words (Talk Talk).

I hereby submit my percieved version of the
lyrics of Toltec for your archive, except for
that last line which comes from the source!

love for now,
*merry*
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[Modifications contributed by Ramiro Bonilla]
[Longwalker's words transcribed by Lee]
[Additional Longwalker transcripts are in file Longwalker.txt]

I am not as educated on this cd as I am going to be as I only recently acquired it and it's going to require more listening BUT I know enough about it to say that it is wonderful and I am going to spend way more time with it.

At first when the narration begins, it got on my nerves. After several times, I began to enjoy his part and found it of great interest. Of course Jon's songs are great on it and I can't think of a bad track on it.

More discovery to come.

[BrianD]

Have just acquired this CD - what a wonderful album, certainly one of Jon's better solo works. The interplay between Longwalker speaking and the music gradually builds through the album to an incredible crescendo that is brought down by the exquisite Ave Verum.

[tomas]

I think toltec is great! Lots of good songs and a theme running through the whole thing. I do feel that if a little more time and care had been put into the recording, the album could be made to sound better, more "live" I think its a bit canned sounding in places, like it was recorded on a computer. but lots of great songs, and i like the mexican folk songs.

there is a great boot out there from pasedena which includes in my opinion better versions of alot of this stuff and "deseo" songs too.

"deseo" is good too, sort of a companion with this album

[ANTIOCH]

I have not heard this recording but was under the impression Jon was influenced by 'Carlos Castaneda' and his books in developing this project ?

[Erdy1]

Mixed feelings. I love the percussion-driven songs - some of my favorite music of Jon's. However, I personally cannot stand the LongWalker narration. For me, it detracts from the music. In fact, I liked the music and disliked the narration so much that I made an edit of the entire CD in which I cut out the narration bits and spliced everything together so it flowed nicely without them, so that I can listen to the music undisturbed by ramblings about creepy crawlies and feathered rattles.

Also, I know I'm going to take some flak for this, but I don't like Jon's rendition of Ave Verum. Maybe it's because I was raised on Classical, or maybe it's because I love this song and have heard it song by many people with beautiful voices. Jon has a great voice for some things, but for me it just doesn't work on Ave Verum.

But when that thundering percussion comes in, you just have to love Toltec!

[Andersonic]

well Toltec is one of the most inspired Jon Anderson albums, it carries a certain spirit and drive that also is present on Olias of Sunhillow...

[Dragonfly]

I, too, can't stand the LongWalker narations. In fact, the only song on there that I ever listen to (and I love it) is the Mozart tune, "Ave Verum".

Dragonfly :fly:

[Koko]

Originally posted by ANTIOCH
I have not heard this recording but was under the impression Jon was influenced by 'Carlos Castaneda' and his books in developing this project ?


Carlos castaneda is 'believed' to have worked within some of the Toltec, Traditions...However...His (Castaneda's reportage of his experiences, are somewhat 'Darker' than those Toltec Traditions & Teachings/Practices that are born of being connected to All Other....
The Toltec 'Way Of Life/Being' is not so much a Philosophical or belief system, but a Whole Way Of Life, in that they are

actual "doings"

The way you walk, the way you eat, the way you speak, the way you conduct yourself in evry aspect of your life, thoughts, deeds, words and so forth.
While Jon Anderson has much knowledge of many aspects of Human nature, of many belief systems and cosmologies...He (at least at the time in his life when he created , composed and recorded "Toltec"....his knowledge and experience of "Toltequity"..appears limited.

I can recommend these Victor Sanchez Books:

The Teachings Of Don Carlos

Toltecs of the New Millenium

which are a good starting point:

There's also an excellent book on "Recapitulation"...by him but I can't recall the title.



or visit his website...he runs "Excellent" Workshops..if you want first hand Experiential 'hands on' knowing of aspects of 'some' of the Toltec Ways.


www.toltecas.com


As to the Album/CD...It is 'superb' in my humble opinion....
he obviously was in 'sacred space', when he created it.


Koko.

[upbgirl]

i really really want to get in on this discussion, but think i will listen to toltec at work tonight so it will be fresh in my mind..

way to go, koko!! you know how i feel about this stuff, and i am hitting barnes and noble for at least ONE of the books you 'prescribed'..gotta learn more..it is a quest, now, and not just a passing fancy..[but i am still scared out of my wits!!]

i think the people who have read these books and the people who havent might have different views on this music.. we shall see..:cheers:
be back tomorrow with visions of 'allys' and 'recapitulations' in my head..

[BredYes]

I can't stand the LongWalker narations too. But I think the music on the album is one of the best solo efforts of Jon. As a singer of classical music I was not so impressed by Jon's singing on Ave Verum, although it is funny that he sings in the register of a female alt voice and the way he hit the high notes at the end of the song.

[Flo]

Toltec is an Anderson album I rarely listen. Like some of you I dont like the Longwalker narrations and I always skip the boring parts. I think I would certainly like your home-remastered version Erdyl !

[upbgirl]

listened to toltec all night at work..
this is a hard one because i can actually walk around my town and hear people speaking ojibwe, which is a native american language..when i first got toltec, i listened non-stop. i was already quite familiar with longwalker's philosophies because of the high concentration of indians here. they are quite similar, even tho from different tribes. the mother earth, and father sky kind of stuff..
i guess i got out of order because i read castenada's works before i got this cd. i was expecting something quite different, since i had read the books. some of it bothered me-like the narrations.. i had a hard time with longwalker because he isnt from south america, i suppose. the toltecs [and if i am wrong, koko will clear it up] were an ancient race with propensities to be able to 'see' things ordinary people cant [wont]. they had a very different lifestyle than the origianal inhabitants of north america, i believe. [it was kind of like a white girl singing about the 'hood]
right as i was getting ready to make notes for my response in this thread [yes, anal as i am, i DO take notes sometimes-to gather my thoughts] when a local native came in the market and began yelling about the govt putting the nix to thier 7 charter schools they want to open..she looked at US [the employees-who happen to be white] like WE had something to do with the govt's 'covert' action to stop the opening of the schools. it was very sick and bigoted..well, i am ashamed to admit i gave it right back to her..and i shouldnt have done that.. [so says don juan-the 'mentor' in the castenada book] yes, upbgirl got sick and bigoted right back towards her, and i am very sorry i let her know 'where my goat was tied'..i lost all my thoughts on toltec music, because it is a very romantic view of the native life style, and not true, AT all for the most part around here. so, she blew it, and i blew it too. after all, no one can hear anyone when someone is screaming.. [she is really BIG too, and i got nervous for a moment when her face got red, but i am a stubborn bi*&^, and refused to let her spout her crap]..when i called her on a few things, it was all 'whiteys fault'.. here we go again..
so, sorry, all. it will be awhile before i listen to toltec again, because now, it has the nasty flavor of venison left out to rot because people were at the market buying zigzags, marlboros and busch beer while thier kids are neglected and delinquent..
maybe jon would like to come here and see the REAL way of native life which seems to be casinos, liquor and and unswerving ability to teach their kids that everything is whiteys fault..[if they ever chose to teach them ANYTHING]
sorry,koko.. guess i need to work on my 'impeccability', dont i??

i am not sorry for what i said to her-just sorry i wasted my time trying to help her 'see' something that has been covered up for many years around here.. i wish i had never moved here to see the way this 'glorious first people' treat the non-indians..sad and sorry..very sad..
btw, this woman is the one who has the bumper sticker on her car that said "my heros have always KILLED cowboys" wouldnt THAT make a nice book report for her child at the 'whitey school'?:fmad: :banghead:

so sorry for my VERY non-Yes like post..[and my very non-yes like behavior yesterday, too]

[Yes Oz]

I have had Toltec for about 4 or 5 yrs now. I have posted on other threads re Jons solo stuff. After reading the posts it sems that I am in agreeance with most that I am not over impressed with Longwalkers narration but cant agree with others opinions of Ave verum.

I recently had a CD burnt for me of my favorite Jon solos or Jons vocals of Yes material and "Ave verum" was included. I love this track. For me this album is one of Jons better efforts. Loved it when I first heard it some time ago. Must admit I am a bit more selective now and have drop a few tracks off of my listening list but on the whole it is still a very good solo album.

[Koko]

Originally posted by upbgirl
longwalker isnt from south america,
Hi Upbgirl....I was sorry to hear of the awful 'confrontaion/nasty situation' you found yourself in...

But,

A0 It doesn't matter where someone is from.....as long as their 'Heart' is true..and they 'Walk Their Path With HEART'...then that's all that counts....Though I would say that it IS Criminal when a person or persons..not of a particular culture or people start spouting/ sermonising/ making out that they know more about that culture/peoples ways/traditions beliefs etc.....than the people themselves....I am very blessed to have worked with and met many persons from a wide range of cultural/spiritual origins/traditions...and would never claim to know more than another...which is why I'm always ready and eager to listen to anothers point of view...
But for me..the 'essence' of what Jon Anderson is trying to convey in 'Toltec' is contained in Longwalkers words...and his words (at least for me) mirror many North American (Native) peoples and South American/ Asian/ Celtic Cosmologies (Spiritual and Shamanic ways of life), (Belief systems)...that "Everything Is Connected"...and that we 'humans' are no more important than any other being on this Beautiful lanet...and that 'we' (you and I) are here as keepers, to determine how the planets evoelves on the physical and so spiritual and energetic level(s)
(which again is the "Essence" of Chief Seattles speech to the (white) American government in (I think) 1837..??

For me Longwalkers words are indespensible on the 'Toltec' album...and set the scene for what ensues musically & lyrically.....I am also aware that (and believe me I am a total Jon Anderson fan 'musically'....) ..Jon Anderson like all humans has his own limitations and blind spots/closed symbols...so as brilliant as he is as a singer/composer/musician....he is not 'the' fountain of wisdom, and I'm sure he would never claim to be......I once read an interview he gave in the quarterly Journal "Shamans drum" and while it was an enjoyable and positive expression/interview, some of it hinted that Jon was 'misinformed' about somethings...
.mind you aren't we all....

the toltecs [and if i am wrong, koko will clear it up]

I can't clear anything up amigo...I can only offer my 'perception' and view of things...we each are 'Beautifully' different (thank heaven!) and "Unique".....I'm sure there are some visitors to this site who would know far more about 'Toltequity' than me...


..well, i am ashamed to admit i gave it right back to her..and i shouldnt have done that..

Sometimes the only way we know how to deal with someone or such an awful situation is to "Match their Energy with Like Energy"....the good thing from what has happened is that...You have learned a Very Valuable Lesson/teaching.....and I'm sure that should something like that happen again...you'll handle yourself differently.....maybe it was a "Blessing In Disguise"...maybe All Things DO Happen For a Reason...we may not have a clue what that reason is...at the time....but pehaps many days/years down the road...we'll see it..and say...Aaah So that's why!...who knows...




so, sorry, all. it will be awhile before i listen to toltec again, because now, it has the nasty flavor of venison left out to rot because people were at the market buying zigzags, marlboros and busch beer while thier kids are neglected and delinquent..
maybe jon would like to come here and see the REAL way of native life which seems to be casinos, liquor and and unswerving ability to teach their kids that everything is whiteys fault..[if they ever chose to teach them ANYTHING]

You shouldn't let this incident spoil it for you....just play it when you're doing the house work or something else...and it'll come back without the bad taste...


Some of it IS Whitey's Fault...But you can't help being born white...just like they can't help being born of their culture/s....There again...Maybe each of us 'Chose' how and who to be born as.....it's not beyond the realms of possibility ??!!

sorry,koko.. guess i need to work on my 'impeccability', dont i??

Impeccabiilty - Is NOT about being Good etc...It is possible to be
Impeccably Evil...or Impeccably Lazy...Impeccabilty simpply means doing something 101% with all you are...

But I take your point...just think of it as a Teaching in Disguise...and boy that's a "TOUGHIE".....

There is a tradition within one or two of the Native American Peoples ..(it's also a tradition within some of the Keltic Clanspeople)...That when you meet someone who 'pushes ALL your buttons and makes you feel like Killing them...instead you should give them your most prized posession!)....Yeah..now that IS a TOUGHIE!!..No not TOFFEE..!!LOL!


:dog:



Please don't apologise for who you are.....I think there are many (me included!!) who will read your post and learn something from it...you are very VERY Brave to own up to what you did....not that it was wrong/right etc...you were simply doing the Best You Could In That Moment..

So Give yourself a HUG!..and I'll send you one too!!


so sorry for my VERY non-Yes like post..[and my very non-yes like behavior yesterday, too]
Jeeeezzz...you should see me on a good (read Bad) Day!!...I'm like attila the Hun!!..and then some!...

:dog:


You Gotta Laugh or you'd spend all your life crying and beating yourself up!


Koko



ps: I recently saw an amazing tv programme and this archeologist
has uncovered artefacts that 'pre-date' everything so far uncovered on Native American peoples (North American)...and
coincidentally...another scientist who was researching DNA across the ancient worlds got involved and they came to the conclusion that the 'original' inhabitants in the americas were Europeans.....there used to be a land mass across the Northern Hemisphere....and they have proven (in theory) that it could have been walked...so who's ancestors is whose is anyones Guess??...

something like that anyway...

In La K'ech (You Are My Other Self)

:dog:

[upbgirl]

this from koko..
"when you meet someone who 'pushes ALL your buttons' and makes you feel like Killing them...instead you should give them your most prized posession!"

well i dont think she'd appreciate my son or my yestunes at all, so now what?? ;) she is a country fan to the maxx like alot of people up here in red flannel land! maybe she'd like a copy of my a.r. from skynyrd or molly hatchet?
all i can give her is quiet and solemn questions that she refuses to answer..or even look at. i guess i DID kind of sound like i knew more than her..[and with the beginning subject matter, i DO know more than her- it was about schools] it could have been a great conversation, if we both hadnt been so one sided or closed minded.. at least i recognize my folly now..but i also recognize that the serenity prayer isnt just for alcoholics anymore!! 'accept the things i cannot change' has been a mantra for me for quite a while now.. am i a defeatist? i dont think so..do i give up on everyone now? probably not-especially when it comes to children who need help.
thanx for the compliments, koko, but i am still struggling like everyone else.. i will say at least, i KNOW there is 'more to this world than we see with our eyes', and i am still 'blind', but i think i can catch a glimpse, every now and then, of that 'great eternity', and sometimes, i can even 'feel' the eagles emanations, believe it or not..i just dont know how to make it as 'real' as everyday..[i am scared out of my wits, to be honest!!haha!]
yes, there are none so blind as those who will not see..but i am trying..'do i look on blindly and say i see the way?' hhmmmm..
great brain workings here, people..
and thank you koko-i realize that 'pain of altercation' is sharp indeed, but i also know i WILL look back and learn..:cheers:

and thanx for the hug-perfect timing!!;)

[Koko]

Originally posted by upbgirl
this from koko..
"when you meet someone who 'pushes ALL your buttons' and makes you feel like Killing them...instead you should give them your most prized posession!"

well i dont think she'd appreciate my son or my yestunes at all, so now what?? ;)

why not just give her a poem, or an apple or a CD of country maxx music (whatever that might be??) LOL!
she is a country fan to the maxx like alot of people up here in red flannel land! maybe she'd like a copy of my a.r. from skynyrd or molly hatchet?


You never know!.....(by the way what/where on earth is "Red Flannel Land"...??.when I said your most prized posession....I think, to call your son 'a posession' is not true....you may be 'guardian' of your child...which we all are for the rest of our lives....even when they have upped sticks moved/married/moved overseas etc ..they never stop being our 'responsibility'...but as our posession...I don't hink so....

anyways onto more important matters.....

we ALL "See" ALL the time...it is our 'ego's and "Reason" that prevents us from 'accepting' it.....

Anyone would be right to be 'Cautious' about any quest they might be on...but Scared out of ones wits......that comes 'during' the quest itself.....and after all we only have fear itself to be fearful of.....easier said than embraced/embodied....




all i can give her is quiet and solemn questions that she refuses to answer..or even look at.


that's her stuff not yours...you can lead ahorse to water etc...


i guess i DID kind of sound like i knew more than her..[and with the beginning subject matter, i DO know more than her- it was about schools] it could have been a great conversation, if we both hadnt been so one sided or closed minded.. at least i recognize my folly now..but i also recognize that the serenity prayer isnt just for alcoholics anymore!! 'accept the things i cannot change' has been a mantra for me for quite a while now.. am i a defeatist? i dont think so..do i give up on everyone now? probably not-especially when it comes to children who need help.
thanx for the compliments, koko, but i am still struggling like everyone else.. i will say at least, i KNOW there is 'more to this world than we see with our eyes', and i am still 'blind', but i think i can catch a glimpse, every now and then, of that 'great eternity', and sometimes, i can even 'feel' the eagles emanations, believe it or not..i just dont know how to make it as 'real' as everyday..[i am scared out of my wits, to be honest!!haha!]
yes, there are none so blind as those who will not see..but i am trying..'do i look on blindly and say i see the way?' hhmmmm..
great brain workings here, people..



You see all the time...'especially out of the side of yuour vision....Peripheral Vision....don't you catch a glimpse of things...shapes/colours/animals etc etc etc....and think ...what was that...OR Oh1 I'm just being silly etc etc...that's what the vast majority of people do.....at least to the best of my knowledge(so far)

and thank you koko-i realize that 'pain of altercation' is sharp indeed, but i also know i WILL look back and learn..:cheers:

Yeah Confrontation IS so Awful.

and thanx for the hug-perfect timing!!;)

You are Most Welcome.

A "Hug" is a perfect thing to Give
One size fits all
and the giver doesn't mind if the receiver passes it on to another



I played "Toltec" last night when I got home...and I just LOVE IT all the more every time I hear it.

[Dakini]

I love toltec. I have to agree with koko....longwalker's words are very much an integral part of the whole recording. I feel that this particular cd is very deep on a metaphyical level taking you beyond this linear third dimension into real time...into the "oneness" of a new time. We are indeed building bridges....
the bridges that unite us as ONE. We are being pulled back to the natural world which holds the key to living in the one....being in synch with the universe...with nature. We are indeed the keepers of this beautiful earth mother. It's beyond time we started doing what we were sent here for....loving and caring for this planet and one another. I am reminded of some YES lyrics of another recording...." cast away all doubt and sorrow...turning away from the past we know, the universe at our command...sharing the fate of the world we go... it's time to reach the goals we have set for ourselves.... together you and I ..we hold the key to all the answers....let go.....let go...." (the more we live/let go from Union). I think one beautiful thing that comes through for most or all Jon's recordings is his INTENTION.
Of course that is my humble opinion. Sending loving light out in rainbow spretrums around this beautiful planet and all living things for the highest good!

educating the mind with the intelligence of time....www.tortuga.com

[Koko]

Absolutely.....and let's not forget those words of wisdom from Jose Arguilles - whose books include: Surfers of the Zuvuya.
The Mayan Factor etc etc etc

"Oxygen is the Atmosphere of the Body, Time is the Atmosphere of the Mind"

Koko.

[Dakini]

koko don't know where you are located but Jose is going to be speaking at the Whole Earth Festival at UCDavis spectral 8,9 & 10
(gregorian may 9, 10, 11) all the info is listed on tortuga.com
I will be working the booth for the Foundation for the law of Time along with other kin. Ram Das has requested his tent be next to ours so Jose can speak there as well. In lak'ech Dakini

[Koko]

Nah1 I'm In Wales (land of the Celts!)..in Briton.....
It's good to know that Ram Dass is up and about after his such a long and serious illness.


Blessings to him ten fold.

Thanks anyway Dakini, good to speak Amigo.

Koko