"Relayer" as an album title

[relayeire]

This is kind of a weird question, but I'm curious about other Yes fans' opinions on whether "Relayer" is a noun or a verb.

Meaning, in Yes' usage, is Relayer a person, place or thing (noun)? Does it refer to a thing which relays, or a person who relays?

Or, is Relayer an action, as in to re-layer something? To put more layers on something.

"Relayer" is repeated several times in the lyrics of The Remembering, but I've never heard anything about what it means.

For ages I assumed it was a noun. A reference Jon made to it in an interview made me think otherwise.

Sorry to get so obscure on this!

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[shortexchanges]

Passing time will reach as nature relays to set the scene,
New encounters spark a true fruition,
Guiding lines we touch them, our bodies balance out the waves
As we accelerate our days to the look in your eyes

these are the Lyrics from sound chaser

To me it means the 3 dimensional existence we share was relayered from a higher plain of existence. The snake on the cover invokes the snake in genesis and allegorically the fall of Eve, then Adam.

Yes has always been about the positive side of our spiritual natures and that we will once again have a higher plain of existence an direct union with our loving creator.

Have I ingested too many hallucenogenics or does any one else share these interpretations?

[Albedo]

Seems like it's used as a noun in Remembering, but it could be both the Relayer (proper noun, the entitiy that does the relaying) as well as the action of relaying. Maybe. I wasn't an English major.

Or maybe it just sounded good.

[sunburstbasser]

Its always meant noun like to me. Like, Yes is the Reciever of this music, then they are the Relayer to give it to the world. I think at this time they were recieving something!

[Drusilla]

Its always meant noun like to me. Like, Yes is the Reciever of this music, then they are the Relayer to give it to the world. I think at this time they were recieving something!
That's exactly how I have always took 'Relayer' to mean.

[Jackaranda]

I thought it was God or "God conciousness" coming into a person, an action of sorts. I said verb.

[Timmo]

Yes has always been about the positive side of our spiritual natures and that we will once again have a higher plain of existence an direct union with our loving creator.I think Gates, at least the first 2/3, is about the DARK side of our spiritual natures, and when we find a higher spiritual consciousness, we can begin to heal.
Have I ingested too many hallucenogenics or does any one else share these interpretations?No, not enough!

I always took it as "one who relays." As Mozart said in "Amadeaus," "we are all God's flutes." In other words, he didn't write the music, he merely transcribed what God was writing (and in fact, Mozart's music pretty much showed little to no editing, he pretty much just wrote down what he heard in his head).

Soundchaser is about being a musician and giving music to the world; I think Jon felt he was "relaying" it rather than CREATING it. And once relayed, it belongs to the listener, not the hearer.

Soon is relaying a higher consciousness, one in our future where there will be no more need for war.

In To Be Over, they are relaying several things. I think on a personal level (even though they probably didn't know it at the time), they were relaying their unconscious feelings about the band breaking up and reforming. I think on a collective unconscious level, they were relaying what happens when we die, when the "soul surrenders," we stop "doubting our part" and become "ready to be loved."

[MrZuLu]

Passing time will reach as nature relays to set the scene,
New encounters spark a true fruition,
Guiding lines we touch them, our bodies balance out the waves
As we accelerate our days to the look in your eyes

these are the Lyrics from sound chaser

To me it means the 3 dimensional existence we share was relayered from a higher plain of existence. The snake on the cover invokes the snake in genesis and allegorically the fall of Eve, then Adam.

Yes has always been about the positive side of our spiritual natures and that we will once again have a higher plain of existence an direct union with our loving creator.

Have I ingested too many hallucenogenics or does any one else share these interpretations?
I alway took it as a verb, an action word... adding another layer... or relayer... moving to next level...
I don't know about "too many" but they(hallucinogenics) were definitely involved.

:dog: :lmao: :cannabis: :Lurking: :bonghitte

[gleeman]

Definitely agree with muscla1, Sound Chaser is a tour song, simply about the experience of creating an album with the express intent of bringing it to an audience in concert. "all to know and see the look in your eyes". Actually, I think the lyrics on Relayer are pretty sharp and focused and easy to get compared to CTTE or TFTO, each number picking a straightforward concept and sticking to it.

So I agree that Relayer in one sense is about giving or relaying music to the world. But I also always took it to mean that they were back to a hard hitting tighter sound after the morass of TFTO---the three song format of Relayer harkens back to CTTE and after the beating they took over Tales I think they were especially driven to make sure there was no messing around on Relayer. Also the title "relayer" provided a nice continuity from album to album, remember of course the fast "Relayer, all the passion spent on one cross" bit in The Remembering. Kinda like when the song Houses of the Holy actually turned up on Zep's next album, Physical Graffiti!

[Timmo]

I alway took it as a verb, an action word... adding another layer... or relayer... moving to next level...
I don't know about "too many" but they(hallucinogenics) were definitely involved.

:dog: :lmao: :cannabis: :Lurking: :bonghitteFirst time I heard "Relayer" I was frying on blotter, so I guess hallucinogens also played a part in my understanding.

[YYY]

Passing time will reach as nature relays to set the scene,
New encounters spark a true fruition,
Guiding lines we touch them, our bodies balance out the waves
As we accelerate our days to the look in your eyes

these are the Lyrics from sound chaser

To me it means the 3 dimensional existence we share was relayered from a higher plain of existence. The snake on the cover invokes the snake in genesis and allegorically the fall of Eve, then Adam.

Yes has always been about the positive side of our spiritual natures and that we will once again have a higher plain of existence an direct union with our loving creator.

Have I ingested too many hallucenogenics or does any one else share these interpretations?

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I have as well and that's why I understand exactly what you mean...but then again, YES is an hallucenogenic. Guess I've taken alot of both. I used to mix the two at the sametime. It can be quite dangerous but if you survive then you've had an experience like no other.

[Robert Shupe]

My take is that it is a noun.

Yes is the Relayer of the message, the music, and the ideas to ponder.

I see it like the word conveyer, communicator, orator, and such words.

Leave it to the boys to make a new word.

With the album they furthered their legacy by bringing much to the table and yet with a new keyboardist.

Anyway, that is my take.

Grammar - Can a verb end in 'er'? I don't think so. Did you know nothing rhymes with purple or orange.

Robert Shupe

[Joe]

This is kind of a weird question, but I'm curious about other Yes fans' opinions on whether "Relayer" is a noun or a verb.

Meaning, in Yes' usage, is Relayer a person, place or thing (noun)? Does it refer to a thing which relays, or a person who relays?

Or, is Relayer an action, as in to re-layer something? To put more layers on something.

"Relayer" is repeated several times in the lyrics of The Remembering, but I've never heard anything about what it means.

For ages I assumed it was a noun. A reference Jon made to it in an interview made me think otherwise.

Sorry to get so obscure on this!

http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/

WHAAAA? :shrug:

[cinderella]

I ran relay races in college. Does that make me a relayer? ;)

[Timmo]

Meaning, in Yes' usage, is Relayer a person, place or thing (noun)? Does it refer to a thing which relays, or a person who relays?

Or, is Relayer an action, as in to re-layer something? To put more layers on something.Could it perhaps be both???

OK, to get REALLY arcane...

I always thought of it as a verb, hence I've always pronounced the album with the accent on the first syllable, RE-lay-er, ie., one who relays.

However, I've noted that the band, whenever talking about the album, accents the middle syllable, Re-LAY-er, which sounds to me as "to add layers, or to redo layers."

Although the whole subject strikes me funny. I can see Chris running across this thread and saying "What a bunch of wankers...don't they have anything better to do?"

[Hill St.]

Noun.Verbs confuse me.

[marklovesyes]

Personal Pronoun

[relayeire]

muscla, you came to the same conclusion I did... I always pronounced it with emphasis on the first syllable... then I heard Jon put emphasis on the second, and it caused me to reconsider my long-held assumption... it's possible this is an "American English" vs. "UK English" issue, though... (e.g. mill-a-terry vs. mill-a-tree)

[rgfudd99]

I always looked at the album title and the cover art for Relayer as being about the same thing. The Relayers on horseback on the cover are delivering a message-they are relaying information to someone. The musicians are relaying their own message to the listeners through their songs. I'm not sure if there is any deeper meaning behind why they chose the name or the cover art but I suppose there might be. Which came first, Roger Deans art work or the music?

Rob

[Close to Loch Ness]

I took it as a noun referring back to TFTO where Jesus is the Relayer of God's message. "all the passion spent on one cross". Also with "save the futile wars we suffer" and "all the dying cried before you". In Gates the futilty of war along with the needless suffering and dying is evident, but there is hope to end all suffering and that is God. "soon oh soon the light. Pass within and soothe this endless night"

Either that or Jon made a hash of laying a carpet and he needed it re-layed.

[Timmo]

I always looked at the album title and the cover art for Relayer as being about the same thing. The Relayers on horseback on the cover are delivering a message-they are relaying information to someone. The musicians are relaying their own message to the listeners through their songs. I'm not sure if there is any deeper meaning behind why they chose the name or the cover art but I suppose there might be. Which came first, Roger Deans art work or the music?

RobDean claims afterwards, but he never listens to the music first.

In this case, it was pure synchronicity, if all of the involved parties can be believed.