OK, so what's the catch ?

[InverYes]

..if there is one, I haven't found it yet.

I just went and bought the Symphonic and House of Blues DVD's.

I paid $1.26 for them both.....and that was $1.25 for one and 1 cent for the other.

I reckoned there was some sort of con going on but worth a gamble.

They arrived today, brand new, sealed and on a quick first look, they work!

OK there's a little bit of Chinese writing on the cover, but I was expecting some home made job, yet they appear to be kosher.

This can't be earning any cash for the band yet I presume they are not counterfeit copies either or they wouldn't be able to sell them so blatantly. Or would they?

And I love the idea of subtitles for all the songs. Karaoke Yes! Brilliant!
I was trying to imagine some poor chinaman trying to get his head round jon's lyrics when he was doing the subtitling. I bet all he could think to himself was "What a road of borrocks!"

So what's the catch then?

[Dantalion Rides Again]

Score!

A road of borrocks!! haha!

I've only seen clips of House of Blues, but it looked great. I have Symphonic. You absolutely scored, InverYes! Congrats.

I bought a new CD by one of my other fav. bands and paid $18.00! And it's only 36 minutes long. I felt ripped off.

I'll just figure you've balanced it out with your dandy new purchases.

:thumbs:

[cinderella]

The catch is that you got a terrific deal. Enjoy! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/kao/msroom/a.gif

[Silent_wings]

Where did you buy them from?

If something looks to good to be true it probably is.
They are most likely illegal copies. Some countries don't recognize US copyright law.

[Timmo]

Pirated Chinese, I'm sure.

When you go into record stores and video stores in China, they are STUFFED with music and video product...all of it illegal. And this a fraction of what they export.

Less than 1% of all music and video sold in China is legitimate, the rest illegally copied stuff that the record companies, studios, not to mention artists, won't see a dime of.

That's the catch.

Where did you buy these from? Some web site?

TIM
Venice, CA

[ANTIOCH]

Legal or illegal ?
If it all meets your approval, enjoy the heck out of it !

[Dantalion Rides Again]

I'd guess Tim's right; probably illegal. Too late now to feel bad though.

:D :D

[Silent_wings]

Problem with buying illegal copies is the band doesn't make a penny off of it.

When legal copies are available I try to buy them. Not always but 99% of the time.

I want to support Yes

I want them to make more music.

I'm willing to pay more to make sure the band is getting their share of the money.

That's just me
I wouldn't say that you were wrong, bad or what ever to go for a good deal.
Thing like that are very tempting.

[Dantalion Rides Again]

The beauty is that he got the deal guilt free!! InverYes didn't know, you know?

Kathy's right about the principal though.

That CD I bought (that I mentioned in my earlier post in this thread) was worth it in order to support the band. And as it turns out, the disc is worth every single one of the 1,800 pennies it cost.

The fact that it was expensive led me to believe the band would get a healthy cut.
I also wondered it the retail store sales (vs. official website or amazon.com or BMG or whatever) would benefit them somehow.

Okay, so all I really needed was an excuse to buy the thing.

[Scooty]

Good point. I have a stack of Bootlegs that I paid HUGE amounts of money for in the 90's..so glad I dont have to do that anymore..:)

but it was simply from a lack of available live recordings and cool outakes and the like.
The Rhino remasters got it right and made some of my Bootlegs obsolete..and I was very happy to shell out money so the band would profit.

I would buy any live recording from this tour that YES decides to put out...Even if its every show...at least that way Sirs AHSWW get the money that they have worked so hard for...

But I believe we have all done it..and yet I also believe that only when there is no other way to get the material... it usually works as a great wake p call to the band...and its to their benefit that they know what we want!

Like you Michael, I have owned every form of YES music be it LP, Cassette, CD, Re master, Re issue...Ive spent thousands of dollars that have all gone into YES' pocket...so I know I haven't cheated them...:)

Scoot

[Simon B]

..if there is one, I haven't found it yet.

I just went and bought the Symphonic and House of Blues DVD's.

I paid $1.26 for them both.....and that was $1.25 for one and 1 cent for the other.

.................................................. ......

So what's the catch then?

Brian

What was it I was saying about the Scots?

Always an eye for a bargain!

Simon (The real TM)

[InverYes]

I got them off ebay ( surprise, surprise ) and to be honest it was more to see how these guys could be seling them so cheap. I was honestly expecting something that would be so unwatchable it would go straight in the bin or else receive absolutley nothing at all!!

Now I always got the impression that if ebay were aware of any "illegal" trading they would remove the items from the site. But these guys have an ebay store.

I also can't understand how, even if they are illegal copies, they are prepared to let them go for one cent. I mean that is literally giving them away. Never mind the band not making any money, these traders can't be either.

Anyway it's done now. And as I'm sitting looking at a rack of over 30 Yes albums DVD's and videos ( all legal!) and I do go and see the band whenever possible, my conscience isn't too troubled.

The CD is probably made of biodegradable plastic that decomposes once exposed to the air. There's bound to be something.

[JJGeers]

Good point. I have a stack of Bootlegs that I paid HUGE amounts of money for in the 90's..so glad I dont have to do that anymore..:)

Scoot

Basically that's why I only have bootlegs on LP... When the CD came around I found it dissappointing to see how things developed. I mean, a lot of people do copy all kinds of recordings and think of it as a 'bootleg'. I won't consider it that way...

To collect bootleg Vinyl albums nowadays makes me feel doing an accepted thing. Even though it is hard to find true collectables nowadays, I have, and I will spent a fair amount of money for it..

When it comes to only official recordings, I'd probably buy them, only if there are some new songs on it. For me there is no point of purchasing the next fine collection of Yes music... I think 21 different recordings of Heart of the Sunrise will be fine....

Love,

JJ

[InverYes]

Just in case anyone rushed off and buys these based on my "recommendation" a couple of catches have surfaced.

These are both just single discs not doubles as if you bought them here. No extras.

What is really funny though is that the lyrics sheet with the DVD has a photo of the band as a background to the lyrics of roundabout. Now have a look at the photo and name all the band members you can see there?

The cover of Symphonic is a bit odd too.

Tread carefully!!

[InverYes]

....they also just seem to include a random selection of words related to Yes. Do these paragraphs bear any similarity to the real versions?

[Professor Yessor]

That's real Chinese all right. Saying things like: "Guitarist: Steve Howe", "Bassist: Chris Squire". Nothing too interesting.

BTW - There's some YES stuff at amazon.com:

$1.75. Classic Yes, for example.
$1.22. The Very Best of Yes, for another.
$0.49. Talk.
$0.44. Union.

I'm guessing that maybe, just maybe, the original distributor
saturated the market. If they didn't sell, they didn't sell.

I remember when UNION came out, it was down to half price
after the first month of release.

Then, again, with Chinese on there, it's definitely a Chinese bootleg.
Not to sound prejudiced or anything, but the Chinese never pay full
price for something they can digitally duplicate.

( hope that didn't sound too horrible... )

[Yes Lover]

Just in case anyone rushed off and buys these based on my "recommendation" a couple of catches have surfaced.

These are both just single discs not doubles as if you bought them here. No extras.

What is really funny though is that the lyrics sheet with the DVD has a photo of the band as a background to the lyrics of roundabout. Now have a look at the photo and name all the band members you can see there?

The cover of Symphonic is a bit odd too.

Tread carefully!!

Is that Roy Orbison? LMAO!

[InverYes]

Is that Roy Orbison? LMAO!
Yeah! Now remind me - at what point did he join up. I know there have been a lot of personnel changes but I don't remember him!

[Rogo]

It's from the Travelling Wilburys tour 1984, with a very tired, fat and unshaved Steve Howe on drums.

[soporjoe1]

[QUOTE=Professor Yessor]

I remember when UNION came out, it was down to half price
after the first month of release.

QUOTE]


Seriously? after the first month? I thought that Union was the last album for Yes to break the 500k mark? It took Magnification 3 years to come down to 4.99.

[brotherofmine]

Inver if the issue is you feel bad about not paying the band royalties you could always find out how much the royalties are and pay it.

[InverYes]

Inver if the issue is you feel bad about not paying the band royalties you could always find out how much the royalties are and pay it.
As we say in Scotland - "Aye, right!"

Somehow I think they'll find their next crust Ok without me having to make a donation.

[graywok]

..if there is one, I haven't found it yet.

I just went and bought the Symphonic and House of Blues DVD's.

I paid $1.26 for them both.....and that was $1.25 for one and 1 cent for the other.

I reckoned there was some sort of con going on but worth a gamble.

They arrived today, brand new, sealed and on a quick first look, they work!

So what's the catch then?

Ah Yes - the catch !... take a closer look on the items currently on sale with ebay at $0.01 starting price....click on postage and packing charges... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=617&item=6328220763&rd=1#ShippingPayment looks like a $7.99 charge to me - per DVD. :crybby:

[InverYes]

Yeah, but that's £4.50 plus less than 1p for the DVD itself. And it was $14.99 postage for two. Still pretty cheap.

Starting to sound like a salesman here!

[slipstream9]

Hi all, i just recieved the Chinese version of Yes - Live from the house of blues. First off i paid just 1 cent for the dvd on ebay but $8 for shipping. Now heres the details, the box and dvd case are very nice for the price but the actual dvd is so so. I've only played a few minutes of it but I could already tell the audio and video were not synching 100% properly. It also has subtitles at the bottom of the screen, is this included in the US version? Anyways it's pretty fair for what I paid and it only took a week to arrive. Now when I get the japanese laserdisc backup DVD's from An Evening of Yes Music, I'll be sure to let you know how those are.

[InverYes]

Slipstream9, you get the option to remove the subtitles - they come up too slowly for a good karaoke performance anyway. But as you say, for 1 cent, who's complaining. Funnily enough House of Blues is slightly out of synch but Symphonic is fine.

These guys are still pumping copies out on ebay for 1 cent - it's beyond me why they bother? Unless of course it's the Chinese Postal Service that's behind it.

[slipstream9]

Ok, I just recieved "Evening of Yes Music Plus" DVD's and I'm very impressed. They are backups from a japanese laserdisc release. Excellent quality video and sound spread out on 2 dvd's 152 minutes of bliss. What's up with Bruford's drum stick camera on AYAI? lol

also the person I bought this off of is selling another copy on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=617&item=6328861375&rd=1
i think its definetly worth it, too bad its not original.

[Andy56]

My $0.01 copy of HOB arrived today - it played o.k. looks good, sounds good and if it is a bootleg must be costing as much to produce as the real thing ... full colour covers, hologram stickers, the works.

I think that this must be bankrupt stock or similar - the guy must be making his money on the postage as this avoids higher charges on eBay.

Downside is it took one month to arrive from Hong Kong, still at £4.50 including shipping who's quibbling?

I've just noticed that the site FAQ contains the question:
Is your CD/DVD original or copy? - We only sell licensed CD/DVD, each item has unique ISRC number. We do not sell any bootlegs. All items are brand new and factory sealed.

Their words - not mine.
I wonder if there is any way of definitively finding out whether any DVD is a bootleg or not?

[Bo Locks]

"What a road of borrocks!"hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... s'funny!!!

[Bo Locks]

I have owned every form of YES music be it LP, Cassette, CD, Re master, Re issue...Good point! If you already own the copyright version, where's the harm in a little far eastern naughtiness as back-up or out of sheer fan interest? And especially if you own ALL the kosher formats already!

[Andy56]

Footnote - both of my copies HOB and Symphonic have developed faults where the picture and sound breaks up briefly in one place only - and its not correctable by cleaning - I have not contacted the seller - I just put that one down to experience..as I only paid £9 for the two.

[henrik]

I bought a new CD by one of my other fav. bands and paid $18.00! And it's only 36 minutes long. I felt ripped off.



Maybe this is a bit out of the conversation, but I'm shocked! Ripped off?!

Vinyl albums usually clock about 35-40 minutes and I think that's the best lenght an album can have. I hate it how after cd's became the norm, albums are forced to clock 60-80 minutes. That's too long for a normal album! And it also makes artists to force the lenght beyond what they really had in mind so they stuff crappy material just to make it appear longer.

This of course doesn't apply to everything, but I'm always happy to receive an album that clocks just over half an hour, because usually that means that it really contains just the material the band or artist really thinks is first-class. And it usually is.