View Full Version : Hey, Riff! (& All Keyboard Players)
Anybody care to describe their gear?
In the manner of our beloved King Richard, I play several stacks
Two of the stacks have motherboards, a Korg Trinity 72-key and a Yamaha EX-5 72-key. One of these has an Alesis QS-7 72-key on it, the other an E-Mu Proteus. The utility stack has three boards, a Roland XP-30 on top, a Hammond XK-2 organ in the middle and a Roland XP-10 on the bottom. The XP-10 is more or less a controller for a Roland JP-8080 analog modular synth. I also have rack versions of the Alesis and the Trinity, an Alesis Nanosynth module and a Kurzweil piano module. When I need drum machines, I use a Yamaha and an Alesis.
I have two midi 3x8 switch boxes that I run the whole thing thru, and use a laptop running Cakewalk 9 when I'm doing sequenced stuff. I have a Roland digital 16-track when I need sampled stuff.
I love playing keys Yes style! Like Rick and Keith Emerson, I think it's great fun to play in two different directions, different boards in different stacks.
When I was young, I fantasized about having a rig like this. And it was Rick that planted the dream in my brain ...
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 12:04 PM
YOW!!! You sure have a lot of gear!!! Have ya been eating potatos and mac n cheese these days as a result??? (Just teasing!)
I'm on a pretty tight budget, so I don't have very much stuff.
In fact, I wouldn't even have this second-hand computer were it not for a dear friend who is a systems analyst for a large insurance company, and passed along the great bargain to me when her company dumped off all their older units... $200 bucks for a nice Dell Optiplex!!! Wheeeeeee!!!!
I'm going to go paragraph by paragraph per post here...tried to post what turned out to be practically a novella last night, and lost it to the black hole of cyberspace.....so, I assume length of message and time in writing it were factors...Then, I tried re-writing it as best I could remember on a Notepad, to copy/paste here, and that didn't work either for some reason...By 1:00am I gave up and decided to do it "piece-mail" here this morning.
Here we go.....
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 12:16 PM
I only have 3 synths. One of them stays at home...my beloved old Memorymoog Plus. It recently developed a problem (every-other G won't play, and in the octaves the G will play, the B won't....hmmmm) so, it will be visiting my tech asap. However, unlike many polyphonic Moogs, mine will actually tune up the oscillators pretty decently when asked...just have to let it warm up a bit first!!! LOL!! Nothing beats it for giant analog sounds...super-warm strings, smokin'analog brass, awesome synth sounds, HUGE LFO, and in mono, really fat Minimoog sounds...(double the oscillators...the Mini had 3, the Memory has 6)...Man, I used to pretend I was Moraz on this thing!!!! A little Emerson-emulating, too, I must admit!!
I've had a "thing", I guess, for Moogs...that SOUND!....and am still lamenting the fact I sold an orig. set of Taurus pedals and Minimoog about 15 years ago....:crybby:
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 12:29 PM
As for what I use to gig with, well it's a decade or more old. But still useful. For all my analog sounds, (pseudo Memorymoog!), and piano patches, I use my Roland JD800. Nice warm strings, huge brass, capable of decent synth sounds, and adequate piano. What I like about it in particular is the performance friendliness aspect...no multi-function buttons, per se, nearly all faders and dials like in the old days...gives ya a lot of control on the fly. Also has a +/- octave button like the Memorymoog!
For all my Rhodes/elec. piano, B3-like organs, digi. sounds, etc., I use my old Yamaha DX-7 II FD (the multi-timbral one)....still a really expressive board. Dependable too.
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 12:42 PM
A funny story:
A young local keyboardist, who has heard the band I'm with and sorta looks up to us, recently started working at the place I've taken my gear for service since day one. (Am blessed to have had the same wonderful tech, Keith, since the late '70s).
I had called Keith to warn him that I was bringing my stage gear over on my lunch-hour for a quick clean-up and battery change ("and naturally, you need it by Friday?!" - Yup!) ...apparently the young keyboard player caught wind of this, and was anxiously awaiting me at the front desk when I arrived. He took a puzzled look at my JD and DX, and said, "But I thought Keith said you were bringing in your stage set-up!" I said, "Yeah! This is it!"
Well, the kid's jaw literally dropped, as he stared at my boards in disbelief...he spluttered out, "You mean you play... you mean you make all that sound...on th...on th...on THIS???!!!" LOL!!!!! (I held in my laughter, and just shrugged and said, "Well, yeah!")
Ha ha ha ha!!!! Ah, youth!! I guess I should be really flattered...
and yeah, I wouldn't mind a bunch of new gear, but I'm not ashamed of what I have, either! I think it's all a matter of doing what you can with what you have.
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 12:57 PM
At home, I have a Sohmer 45 S (studio upright) piano. Hand-made in NY with all the same components of a Steinway. (Bought it circa 1980 in lieu of a decent car, and with a trade of my childhood piano and a bank loan!! Ha ha ha!! The things we musicians do to support our "habits!) It sounds GREAT!!! Big, round, bright where need be, overall warm.
Sounds better than many a grand I've heard. Only complaints I've gotten from others who play it is that the action is a little deep/hard...but for me, it's perfect...I was once accused of "mauling the piano" (hmph!) by a socialite at an art gallery I was playing at!!!! Ha ha ha ha!!!!! I consider myself a dynamic, expressive player, but I must admit that when I want BANG - POW, I really hit it!!! I think it has something to do with the level of power and volume I'm accustomed to hearing on the synths...
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 01:08 PM
Oh, yeah, almost forgot...I have an ancient Sequential Circuits drum machine ( I think it's old enough to buy liquor!) that I use essentially for a metronome when recording on my little 4-track. I really do need to get a decent drum machine! Any suggestions?
The 4-track is an old (but nice!) Yamaha MTX...bought it used for myself for Christmas last year for $100 bucks!!!
How do you like the Kurweil module you have???
The one thing I really need for stage is a killer acous piano sound.
I recently came close to buying a Kurzweil K2500 at a local pawn shop...(had the guy talked down to $1200)...and then got hit with a coupla big unexpected expenses, so there went that. Man, it sounded great, and the action on the keyboard was phenomenal! Probably all a blessing in disguise, though, because that thing was SUPER-heavy and cumbersome...I'm pretty little, and have trouble enough toting around the JD800!!!
So...am wondering how you like the module, as I've been toying with the idea of that in lieu of the whole board. If you're familiar with the boards I have at all, which would you suggest as a controller for it?
Well.......that's about it...
Great topic, Quantum...enjoyed posting this self-indulgent reply, as you can probably tell by its length!! LOL!! Please feel free to elaborate on your gear...would love to hear the plus/minus, your fav applications, etc.
Peace!!!!!!
~Riff.
You've got a MEMORYMOOG PLUS???
I would KILL for one of those! Back in the mid-80s, when I was first building up stage gear, I fell in love with that synth in a Lexington, KY music store. In those days there was a not-great band called Petra who had, for three albums, a Wakeman-level, classically trained keyboardist named John Slick. The songs, which were Journey-ish, had Slick doing solos instead of the guitarist in many cases - and his sounds were fantastic! I went to see them, and he played a MemoryMoog. I HAD to have one.
By the time I had that much money, the only MemoryMoog available to me was a re-built one that (according to scuttlebutt) wasn't completely repaired, so I never took the plunge. But to this day, I seek them out on eBay, and try to talk myself into it.
I love my Kurzweil piano module. It's not much bigger than a peanut butter sandwich and has a modest but very adequate bank of piano sounds. I mostly use it with sequenced pieces, using pianos on the EX-5 when I need one live. And I LOVE my Roland analog module. I can sound like anything I want back to the 60s, and I can run that module from any other board. If you have a chance to get this module and a controller, you'll probably be glad you did!
forgot to mention ... the Alesis SR-16 is a decent low-cost drum machine, less than $200
if you have Sequential Circuits gear, and bought that drum machine new, that makes us roughly the same age. (old enough to buy liquor ...)
roundabout219
02-11-2002, 08:21 PM
Hello all, thought I'd join in...I play keys for Roundabout (www.roundabout-yes-tribute.com). My setup at the moment is a Korg O1/W Pro, a Nord Lead 2, a Korg O1/WR (rack version), and a Lexicon MPX100. How do I play YES with so few boards? I cheat, we have two keyboardists. The other keys man was already in the band, but they needed vocals, so it worked out well. It's a lot of fun, it really allows us to orchestrate everything and enjoy ourselves without constantly doing a dance to make patch changes, etc.
I use to use a Prophet 600 for the analog stuff, but it started getting flaky, so the Nord took its place. I also have a MicroMoog, Korg Poly Ensemble, Hohner D6 clav, and a Dyno-My-Piano Rhodes. Way back I used to have an M3 and 147 Leslie and a Korg CX3, but eating takes precedent sometimes, so they went. I really miss the CX3, that was a nice board. I DON'T miss lugging a Hammond and Leslie around, but I DO miss that sound.
Quantum, your comment about playing different stacks brought back memories, I haven't done that in a while, it sure was a blast. It's hard to sing while doing gymnastics.
I'll try and get our other keyboardist to post his equipment list. HE'S the one with the stacks!
roundabout219
02-11-2002, 08:30 PM
Oh, yeah, I have an Ensoniq Mirage too. Shows how much I liked THAT thing. Makes a good paperweight.
I bought my Prophet 600 new...first ever keyboard with MIDI...does that mean I can buy a beer? 8^)
WHAT'S IT LIKE??? Which tunes do you do? What parts do you play? How does it go down with the audience? DETAILS!!!
I would LOVE to be in your shoes, just for awhile!
The CX-3 was a great board. I am nuts about my XK-2 ... there's no Yes I can't play with it
But in bands i've been in, we've never done more than a handful of Yes tunes ... and never anything like CTTE or Awaken ...
I can sing countertenor so I've done some Yes lead vocals (Owner was the last one) but in general I'm with you, it's rough to sing like that and play at the same time ...
roundabout219
02-11-2002, 08:51 PM
We just played in LA Saturday night, had a good crowd and a great response. I was carrying my gear out to the parking lot and about 10 people just broke into applause...I looked behind me!!! I felt a little sheepish, you know? I just love playing these tunes, and to have people react like that was really something.
Here's our set list from Sat.:
Intro (Firebird Suite) (of course!)
Yours Is No Disgrace (we usually do Siberian Khatru, changed it up for the repeat fans)
Changes
(The next 4 songs are one medley)
Long Distance Runaround
The Fish (bass solo, which usually also has parts of Tempus Fugit and Sound Chaser, but time restraints made it just The Fish)
South Side of the Sky
Heart of the Sunrise (*whew*)
It Can Happen
Perpetual Change (first ever performance for us, went over very well)
Siberian Khatru
Roundabout
Details, details...No time now, let me know what you're interested in and I'll elaborate.
I've been playing prog since the 70's, and this is the best time I've ever had in a band. We're all old friends, and we do it for the love of the music.
If you're ever in SoCal, come sit in, any tune you want. Later...
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 08:55 PM
As Nigel Tufnel would say, "Don't even LOOK at it!" (Just kidding!)
I got my Memorymoog when Moog went out of business and was offering all their in-stocks and rehabs for cheap...paid just over a grand, tax inc. and delivered...can you believe it?? Long ago....and far away....!!
Mine is the Memorymoog Plus...the difference being MIDI capable in the case of the Plus. Being an old analog, though, that aspect of it tends to be a bit quirky...especially in tandem with digitals.
I fell head-over-heels in love with the Memorymoog at a Chicago music store, back in "the day", where, at the time, a buddy of mine was the keyboard manager. They had a whole separate room for keys, dozens of them, all hooked up to mammoth PA systems....talk about playing in the manner of King Richard!!!!! Ha ha ha!!!! We used to have a blast....He'd invite me to the store after closing, and we'd plug EVERYTHING in, and go crazy!!!! Man, what fun!! I remember "hogging" the Memorymoog because I loved it so....and kinda liked the Yamaha CS-80 they had, too...(ala Eddie Jobson)....What a riot!! Sometimes other musicians would hang out and join in, too, and we really had some great jams. Volume, Volume, VOLUME!!!!
Tell me more about the Kurzweil piano module...best to hear reviews I think from users....What do you think its viability would be for stage? Would I be best getting a separate controller for it, or could I get away with the DX, for instance?
~Riff.
If I ever see you gig, Riff, I won't look. I won't even point.
(I understand the Nigel Tufnel frame of mind: I have a Nigel Room at my house - all guitars, basses, etc in one room, on stands - and I can play the "Stonehenge" lead on the mandolin!)
Yes, you'd probably find the Kurzweil perfectly stage-worthy - it's particularly easy to control, just MIDI it up to your DX and use a single knob to change piano sounds or MIDI channel. Program/channel number is a bright red digital display. You can run it stereo if needed.
I wanted a MemoryMoog with MIDI, for the same reason as your store escapades - from the early days of MIDI, i've LOVED MIDIing lots of cool sounds together and making a monster sound! in the early 90s I was in a band that did big, overblown original stadium rock tunes, and I loved creating these big, rumbling, the-earth-is-splitting-open patches to make the songs really dramatic!
Roundabout219! What a great set! Trooper Yes, YesWest, and you even do The Fish!
I've played (and sung) Roundabout, we've done Owner, and I've jammed on Changes. The last tune me and my guys worked up that's on your list was "Heart of the Sunrise," but we only played it for ourselves - never played it out.
I've dreamed of playing in a Yes tribute band for years and years. On YesNet I've only heard from one other musician in my region who's interested, another keyboard player. But I am well aware that the Corn Belt has thousands of Yes fans - what I'd give to find a group and do some shows!
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 09:28 PM
Wow, you must have a blast!! You made me laugh about the feeling sheepish comment....been there! I mean, whaddya say??!!
I'm waxing nostalgic here, thinking back to when I played in a prog. rock band in the early 1980s....we only did a coupla Yes tunes d/t (what else?) Jon's inimitable vocals...I remember Tempus Fugit being a lot of fun. Other material we did included ELP, UK, and a bunch of REAL Genesis stuff...(geez, I know what you mean about gymnastics and hectic patch changes n all...I even had Taurus pedals back then, so balancing was sometimes an issue, too!!) We each took "solo spots" in our shows, (like our heros); Mine consisted of a medley of selected Moraz bits, Eddie Jobson's "Alaska" (UK), Six Wives, and my own stuff mixed in for segues!!!! Boy, oh boy!!!! That was fun!!! I was young (in my early twenties) and good-looking, and really thought I was pretty darn cool!!!!! Ha ha ha ha!!!! Take THAT all you lead guitarists, I used to think!!!! LOL!!!
I agree with Quantum...More details, please!! Humor us with vicarious enjoyment, 'tay??!! For instance, what synths/patches do you use for what parts n the like...what are your favs??
Again, welcome to the keyboard thread...always love to hear from fellow synthies!!!
Peace!
~Riff.
Babe, you've won my heart. You've played Six Wives? That is TOO COOL. I've learned about half of it for my own enjoyment - I've been playing the Catherines for years and years and finally learned Jane Seymour when I saw Rick play it on his 2000 DVD
After hearing his solo on ABWH EVENING OF YES MUSIC PLUS, I became determined to play 64th notes at the speed he does. it took me months to learn his technique. I did that about 2 years ago, when I got his 1990 live show DVD - and I ran the DVD in slowest possible mode to study his hand movements! haven't gotten good enough to try it live.
Which tracks do you play? What sounds do you use? What's your arrangement like? more! more! don't stop! don't stop!
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 09:53 PM
Thanks for the info on the Kurzweil...methinks I'll be hunting one down soon...
Also, thanks for the drum machine tip ~
You made me laugh by saying you can play the Stonehenge lead on mandolin...too funny!! As for the Moog, I don't gig with it anymore...too heavy, and not exactly "roadworthy" either. It's in semi-retirement these days...just use it at home.
I know whatcha mean about getting off on huge, stacked sounds...what a powerful feeling, isn't it? 'Specially when I had those Taurus pedals...WOOOOOOOAAAAAHHHH!!!!! (Riff imitating mammoth synth pads with sweeping LFO!)...ha ha ha!!! Man, the JD800 I have is great for that...likely similar sounds to your Roland analog module...I put that and the Moog together, and it's practically like the second coming!!! (no Freudian wisecracks, please!)
Hey, this sure is a fun thread!!!! Good call!!!
See ya!
~Riff. :keyboard:
roundabout219
02-11-2002, 10:02 PM
Rifferoo, you got me going now. We used to do Alaska into ...In That Quiet Earth. Man, that was fun! This was the first "band" I was in, the actual first was Embryo, which was all synths...and my Rhodes. It was me and Steve Roach (www.steveroach.com) doing Tangerine Dream-type stuff. Steve was a pretty driven guy, and I...wasn't, so he bailed and now he's a world-famous synthesist...but I'M playing YES tunes! We met through a mutual friend because Steve had a synthesizer (a Roland SH-1000?, had preset tabs like an organ on the bottom) but couldn't play. I could play but didn't know synthesis. So we taught each other. The real band, the first time we ever jammed, the only song we all knew was "Running On Three" by Brand X and we nailed it. That drummer was the original drummer in Roundabout. He left the band about six months ago. We did Watcher Of The Skies, Return Of The Giant Hogweed, Cogs In Cogs, and Roundabout, of course. "me--mor-ies..." On the YES details, let me compose my thoughts (ha!@) and get some dinner. Later.
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 10:27 PM
I never learned all of Six Wives, either, Quantum!! In the old days, in the solo spot I spoke of, I did everything up until the WHOOOOAAAAAHHHHHHMMMMMMM on the sorta A 7 flatted 9? chord just before the full-key-spanning arpeggios....then I took that WHOOOOAAAAHHHHHHMMMMMM(complete with the rumbling A bass note on the Taurus pedals!), opened up a bunch of cutoff freq./TVF on the Moog, and powerhoused into "Alaska" from there!!!!! The opening of the whole medley was a mono Minimoog (Memorymoog) Moraz bit - just the mono line by itself, slow at first, building, then into a blaze of typical Moraz downward-spiraling scales!!! Then a little segue into the Six Wives bit, etc. Ha ha ha ha!!!! How pompous I was in my youth!!! (weren't we all??)
These days, my stage personna/playing is a whole other ballgame...I'm in the back row, with the rhythm section, playing a bunch of twisty-turny salsa stuff n such!! What a change!! I do a lot of textural stuff, too - strings, organs, brass, bells, what have you. Not much call for huge synth-work in a 10-piece ensemble!! But the money is there, the gigs are solidly booked, and everyone is mature and into it for the right reasons, so I can't complain!!
I know what you mean about checking things out in slo-mo to cop techniques...and, like me, how many concerts have you attended out of your seat, in a side-stage balcony with binoculars honed in on the keyboards???!!! (That's how I learned the secret to Tony Banks' "The Lamb" intro!) Ha ha ha ha!!!!! I know you can relate!!
~Riff.
therifferoo
02-11-2002, 10:46 PM
Roundabout, I'm relating big-time!! You did Alaska too??? Fun, wasn't it!! In That Quiet Earth...way hip ~ I can practically hear the seamless segue now...
More funny similarities: I, too, had a Rhodes in addition to my synths...an 88-key suitcase model, no less, that I got in a pawn shop for next to nothing cuz it was beat to crap!! (Funny how everyone seemed busy with something else, or bailed altogether when it came time to carry that thing!! Ha ha!!) And the prog rock band I was in back then also did "Return of the Giant Hogweed" and "Watcher Of the Skies"...along with "In The Cage", "It", "The Raven", "Squonk", etc. etc.!!!! And we did a Brand X tune, too!! It was "hot off the press" at the time...a cut called "Ipaenemia" from their 1982 release. (Riff waxing nostalgic summore...) Man.....
In reply to the Steve Roach story....funny how things go sometimes, isn't it...But don't sell yourself cheap...There's a coupla folks right here on this thread who envy what you're doing these days, ya know??
WHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~Riffer.
roundabout219
02-11-2002, 11:29 PM
Sell myself cheap? Baby, I'ze EXPENSIVE!
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Ok, you asked for it, it's...DETAILS!
My favorite tune to play: Heart of the Sunrise. We come out of the ending riff of South Side, on the down beat bass and guitar start the song. The first organ patch I programmed on the O1/W Pro. I used a slightly overdriven B3 patch with Rotary Speaker (yeah, right!) and a Flanger with pretty radical settings. It's close. That opening riff (in two parts), the first part is easy to count, the second is tougher, it slows while the beat doesn't. It's hard to count. I jump in with 16ths on Ab with my right and the climbing riff with my left hand. I keep the same patch thru this part until the snare hit. Count two 5's while switching to a Mellotron patch I programmed on the O1/W Pro. Mellotron comes in on the offbeat, 3-count, offbeat, 4-count... This is the first time I've ever written this out, it's wierd. I just PLAY it, you know, I've listened to it, I've worshiped it [grin], I get very transcendent playing this section. It's cool, too, because I'm controlling the band, my part is the base that everyone plays on, so I cue everybody. The next transition is tough, I have to sustain the chord as long as possible, then hit 1 on the keypad (I already hit 3, hence pgm "31") and the bank switch, and come in on the Sunrise riff on organ (factory B3 patch, vibrato and Leslie). I play the repeating notes two-handed, the rest right hand. Play that twice, then I play the previous Mellotron chords on organ. Play twice with a big, B3 ham-handed glissando down then up in between. I've broken keys getting carried away with that one. Now to the verse. I play the Steve Howe wah parts and the Mini parts on the Nord. I love the Nord, it's a great little synth. The patch is very close to the original ( I almost bought a MiniMoog on e-bay before I bought the Nord - I'm happy - still want a Mini). The Pro stays on organ for the rest of the song. For the punches (bum-bum-bummmm) before the mellotron breaks (Randy plays those), I use a straight, percussive B3 patch on the O1/WR, controlled by the Nord. That comes in and out with a volume pedal, the Nord I use the panel control. During the frenetic riff (you know) I play it on organ while Randy plays synth, the third time I play on synth with him, the fourth one he goes high and I go low, then back to organ. The ending on Mini Nord is really cool to play, too. Climbing Sunrise riff on organ and I'm grinning like I've got a secret. Crowd goes wild.
Sounds like that would make you sore ...
... but totally rocked out ...
therifferoo
02-12-2002, 12:31 AM
Exactly HOW expensive ARE you, Roundabout??!! LOL!!!!!!!
(Just kidding!)
I can practically hear what you describe as per the ending frenetic
(you know) riffs...sounds like you guys have great ears; tidy dynamic builds/tension and texture there...good attention to detail! And I would love to hear your Mellotron patch!!
You had me cracking up with recognition over a coupla things you said...(Quantum, too, I'll bet!)...The "I hit 1 on the keypad (already hit 3, hence prgm 31)"...too much!! Riff laughs and nods in empathy!! AND, oh boy, did you ever hit a nerve with another comment you made...the ham-handed glissando/keys breaking bit...
I was howling with laughter!! (You know, the misery-loves-company kind???!!!) To date, I've had to have 17 keys replaced on my JD800!!! Ha ha ha!! I can just feel and hear that awful "plink"...you know? My tech, Keith, just shakes his head! I don't even have to request a "key-strength check-up" anymore...he just automatically replaces weak ones as need be whenever I take the "kids" in for a cleaning!! (God bless 'im!)
Well, it's getting late, and I gotta get ready to crash, guys...
Riffer still has to get up to go to a day job during the week
(veterinary technician)...so...catch ya later...maybe tomorrow.
Nitey!!
~Riff.
roundabout219
02-12-2002, 12:18 PM
You should have seen what I used to do to my Rhodes. I'd break a couple tines a week, and have to replace hammer tips every couple of months, if not sooner. I cleaned out the shops Rhodes parts, they had to order more for me. Nothing like getting a good run-up, a big leap, and land on the downbeat. I swear the Rhodes would cringe! One of my stacks was the M3 on the bottom, Rhodes on top of that, Korg Poly on that, and the MicroMoog on top. I'd stand on the M3 and pick up the Moog and play it like an accordion. Those were the days, my friend...
On the broken keys, I didn't hear the plink, just started staring at the bass player wondering why (and how) he's sustaining a low Eb. Then I look down. Oops.
It's not just the keys that are in danger. I stack boards that weigh 70 pounds with other boards, on stands that are collapsible and wear down. Twice, I've beaten them into collapsing on me, on stage at a gig! I had one of them welded into position so now I can't collapse it (but it's worth it to offset the risk of another fold-up!)
I loved watching Steve Walsh, lead singer and keyboardist of Kansas (a junior Yes) ... he would do handstands on his keyboards! (and he was still doing it in the early '90s, past the age of 40!)
roundabout219
02-12-2002, 01:24 PM
Luckily I've never had that happen. Lat Sat. night, the sound man accidentally knocked my amp off it's stand, just missed Randy's rig. Didn't hurt anything thankfully. Somebody knocked my Poly Ensemble down a flight of stairs one time. I was standing at the bottom watching it cartwheel at me. Smashed one of the corners, but it still worked.
Walsh was a wild man, great fun to watch. I was glad that he got his voice back.
roundabout219
02-12-2002, 01:53 PM
On the slo-mo studying of technique a few posts back. I use a program called Slow Gold which allows you to setup loop start and stop points, and slow down the loop without changing the pitch. It's been invaluable for learning those parts where your mouth is open and you're staring at the CD player going, "Huh?"
I've been using it to try and learn Moraz's solo on Sound Chaser (I REALLY want to play that one). I'm getting the notes, but my fingers just look at me, "You want us to do WHAT?"
Check it out at: http://www.worldwidewoodshed.com
This isn't a gear thing, it's a Yes-performance thing. Back when Big Generator came out, the band I was in at the time worked up "Rhythm of Love." We went the extra mile and came up with the choir-boy intro vocals, which so many have compared to the Beach Boys. It wasn't exactly like Yes's, but it was close enough that anyone who knew the song would have recognized it.
We didn't do the song very many times. A few people actually COMPLAINED that it was a Yes song, because they really thought we were about to crank up some Beach Boys!
That one really puzzled me and bummed me out ...
roundabout219
02-12-2002, 07:29 PM
I don't know about puzzled, the unwashed public being what they are (how elitist!), but I would be bummed. We did Love Will Find A Way for awhile, got lost somewhere along the way. I sequenced the beginning string quartet, sounds pretty good. We always wanted to do Rhthym Of Love, the vocals scared us off.
therifferoo
02-12-2002, 09:36 PM
First of all, Riffer bows to Roundabout: You broke TINES on your Rhodes??? Oh, man! You got me beat, bro!! I've broken 3 strings on my piano, though...in exactly the way you described...(sorta run and pounce!)...What a noise THAT made...bass strings in each case....Once again, my piano tuner/tech ( Harold,a talented, very meek man whom I've used exclusively for my acous. piano services for over 20 years now) like my synth tech, Keith, just shakes his head. "You've got to stop demanding so much of your piano, Dawn!", he said this last time, in a saintly, patiently calm voice!!! ( I get the feeling Harold considers pianos so sacred, that he almost feels as if I've commited some sort of domestic violence!! Ha ha!!)
Quantum, I got a kick out of your precariously stacked synths and collapsing stand story...I'm about to make you cringe with this relative tale.......
I had one of those "A-frame" type stands long ago; you know, the pain in the @@@ Ultimate Support monsters...and I had the Memorymoog on the top shelf, angled towards me quite a bit to compensate for it's back-heaviness...BUT...apparently not angled quite enough... I was playing at a really hip club, and it was PACKED, and I was feelin' pretty cool with my crazy multi-color rock n roll hair-do(ala George Clinton/Todd Rundgren), zebra-miniskirt, leather, etc...(ha ha! - it was the '80s!) and it came time for a particularly cool solo for me in a funk tune...Well, I started cranking on the Moog, and I leaned into the pitch wheel for a scream, and the whole tier of the stand flipped backward, and the Moog dove away from me, right off the back, and CLUNK!, hit a monitor, and went haywire!!!! (Roundabout, that low E b you heard was NOTHING man!! Holy crapoly!! What a cachophany!!)
The worst part, besides my (I thought perhaps fatally) wounded
Memorymoog, was the wave of laughter in the crowd...what an embarrassment!! I wasn't feeling so cool anymore!! :crybby:
The Moog promptly visited Keith, who, as usual, just shook his head, and was back in action the following weekend!! Meanwhile, I "stat" ordered another tier for the stand, and attached it to the back, and laid the tines forward to create a sort of table effect for my baby to rest safely upon from that point on.(a sorely learned lesson)
Here's the kicker...went to a jam night at that same club a coupla weeks later, and this guitarist (who I had a serious crush on) came up to talk to me, and my knees were shaking thinking maybe this was finally "it"...maybe he was gonna ask me out....
But no! He said, "Hey! Aren't you that chick who pushed her synth off its stand the other night?!" Man, I coulda crawled in the corner and died!!! But, it was o.k. after all, even though the guy never asked me out, he said, "Too bad! I heard you were smokin'!!" (Small consolation!)
Will write more later, guys...
Peace!
~Riff.
I used to use A-frames, too, in the 80s when they were the keyboard stand of choice - my layout was just SO cool, I had one up top like your Moog inclined with keys aiming downward, one in the middle only slightly angled downward, and a low-mounted third board with keys aiming UPWARD, so that my fingers found them slightly above my knees! oh, i was just so bad ... but that stack was behind me, and we were playing Point of Know Return, and I'm supposed to reach behind me without turning from my motherboard and play that low third board - and it had slipped, just like yours, so that it was very nearly vertical position.
I reach behind me and NOTHING is there where my hand lands. So I'm playing the motherboard with my right hand and reaching behind me, swiping the air over and over again with my left.
I looked like a total idiot ...
therifferoo
02-12-2002, 10:11 PM
....but at least yours didn't hit the deck!! Still pretty darn embarrassing, though, I can imagine! Hey, I used to play Point of Know Return in the prog. rock band I spoke of earlier...(probably one of our most accessible tunes to the "unwashed public"as Roundabout quipped)...the little violin riffs were sorta fun...kinda back n forthy.
As for stands, these days, just using the 2 boards to play out with, I have one of the orig. Ult. Support tower stands...plastered together with black duct tape all over the place!! Ha ha!! Man, that thing has seen the milage!! Had to purchase long tines (which required also purchasing a different "housing", I guess you'd call it), to accomodate the JD800. (It's on top.) The very same A-frame from "the Moog incident" is still in action here at home, with the very same Moog on its specially configured table-top tier!!
Here's a question for you....ever had synths do crazy things to you while gigging because of crappy power sources??? Oh, man...could tell you a few horror stories along THOSE lines....
Once, no lie, my DX popped up what looked like Japanese characters in the LCD window....probably cursing at me in its native language!! That was seconds after the JD just shut down entirely...even with (what I used at that time) a Trip Lighting Co. mini power conditioner...Talk about the mind reeling as fast as possible!!!
~Riff.
roundabout219
02-12-2002, 10:56 PM
Funny you should mention that topic...
I was playing in an original rock band in the late 80's, and we were playing at the Spirit, which was the best original venue around San Diego then. We did our sound check everything was great. Started the first song, the lights came up, and my Prophet went nuts. It was playing a fourth up or something, tried switching patches, nothing. I used the pitch wheel to get it close and finished the song. Cycled the power and it was ok.
Another time in Roundabout, it crapped out mid-song. I never kept the screws in for the top panel, so I just lifted the whole top up, all the knobs and everything, and checked all the chips and the connectors, closed it up and it started working. The crowd thought it was part of the show!
A friend built a Leslie controller for me, a big rheostat in a metal box. I had my hand on it as I went to the mike to sing, saw a blue flash and got knocked back a couple feet. That was fun.
I put a guitar strap on my Micro Moog in the 70's. My first live solo, I got a couple notes in and stepped on the cord and pulled it out. By the time I got it back in, the solo was over. Never did try it again.
roundabout219
02-12-2002, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by therifferoo
And I would love to hear your Mellotron patch!!
There's a couple examples on our site. You can hear it in the beginning of both excerpts of Siberian Khatru. It's very prominent in the first one.
www.roundabout-yes-tribute.com/sounds.htm
*
therifferoo
02-12-2002, 11:16 PM
LOL!!! I can just see the Prophet-opening incident....Man, I gigged with this dude once, years ago, who had a Prophet 5. We were doing a comedy gig (like Weird Al, changing lyrics to the "hits", but sorta x-rated at times!), and we were in the middle of a tear-jerking rendition of a twisted Gloria Estefan take-off (I'd Eat Anything But You - thank you, that one was mine!- sung by our extremely obese Meatloaf-lookin' singer!)...and suddenly, no strings...(I was playing the main part in that one)...I look across the stage to see the other keyboardist with his Prophet open, just as you described, applying alligator clips to the guts...and suddenly there were strings again!!!!! Ha ha ha!!!!
Man, that dude was an electronic genius!!
therifferoo
02-12-2002, 11:42 PM
Just took a jaunt over to your link, and did up Siberian Pt I....oh, Roundabout, that Mellotron patch is SWEET!! You obviously have a good ear for sound.
Another thing about power (bad) trips...I can relate to the "notes not in the right place" thing...Once, at a fest, the JD presented the keyboard to me completely inverted!!! I mean, low notes on my right, and high on my left....and for a brief moment, I entertained the idea of turning the synth around, and playing it from over-top (ha ha) and then thought, no, wait a minute, that won't work!! I shut it off, waited a sec, and turned it back on again, and it was back to normal!!! It was "quirky" that whole set, though...kept dropping out whenever I'd ask much of it...notes missing, etc. , and a coupla times it edited itself to just a pure waveform mid-stride (oh, THAT sounded great in the middle of a salsa-piano bit!!) The bandleader kept whipping his head around like Linda Blair in The Exorcist and giving me these "WTF??!!" evil-eye glances....and I just kept shrugging back at him!!! What a nightmare!!
~Riff.
One thing that used to really go whacko in my rig was my Korg Poly-6. i LOVED LOVED LOVED that keyboard, it was the pride of my rig for years - and when a MIDI retrofit kit came out, I took it into the shop right away and had it installed.
It worked perfectly for linking synths together - but I am also a heavy sequencer, and I discovered that when I was using a computer to drive my rig, the Poly-6 would intermittantly kick back into Omni mode, and start playing every single part at once - including, sometimes, drum notes! Talk about a weird sound.
I traded it in 1992 and have wept for it many times since ...
groovecake
02-17-2002, 12:18 AM
Wow...after reading all these posts, I feel like I am in the company of greatness! And...a lot of people who like to haul a ton of gear!!
My gig rig (as mentioned on aonther post), is a Fender Rhodes Stage 73 with a Roland VK-7 on top of it. That's it. It's all I have ever wanted or needed.
As far as what I have lying around, I have 2 working Stage 73's (one I gig with...one I record with), a Suitcase 73 in my bedroom, a 54 in storage and a Stage 73 that I use for parts. My Hammond B-3 sits in my apartment with a 22H Leslie. I also have an O1/W in the closet.
My band, The 9's, is an all original pop-soul band. Reviewers have referred to us as "Prince meets Steely Dan." Needless to say, we are flattered. My playing style in this band is a mix of Chester Thompson on organ and Donald Fagen and Herbie Hancock on Rhodes. (This is not to mean I am putting myself on their level or anything...it's just where my influences lie.) Our other keyboard player uses an XP-80 and a Multimoog. He covers all the synth things. We are currently expanding out of Omaha and will be hitting Minneapolis, Chicago and Denver this year. We have been doing some high profile opening gigs, opening for Maceo Parker, P-Funk, The Average White Band and Bela Fleck.
(SHAMLESS PLUG: Our new CD, "All Night Music", is available on Amazon.com for only $9.00. (Cute, huh?) The easy way to find it is to go to our website www.the9s.com. There you can listen to sound clips and click a direct link to our Amazon page.)
I also do a lot of jazz organ trio gigs (guitar, drums, organ). I am a huge deciple of Joey DeFrancesco.
I have never played any Yes in a band. I would like to. I think it would be fun.
no name
02-24-2002, 12:16 PM
I have a Yamaha PSR-280 keyboard and a 1912 mahogany Kimball piano with ivory and ebony keys.
Yamaha gear rocks, no name! I've owned several Yamaha boards over the years
If the Kimball's in good shape, it's probably worth something
roundabout219
02-25-2002, 03:24 PM
Whoa, that's, like, cosmic...
I have a PSR-282 and a walnut Kawai baby grand with black and white keys!
I think they're plastic or something, tho'...
Plastic Man
02-25-2002, 04:12 PM
ive got a yamaha psr 170. its good, and i got it for about $80.
roundabout219
02-25-2002, 05:37 PM
I love the Yamaha...can finally hang with the guitar guys on camping trips.
roundabouttoo
02-26-2002, 12:06 AM
Hey....you guys are keeping my buddy Roundabout210 from working on Close to the Edge!
Greetings to all...I'm the other 1/2 of Roundabout's keyboard tandem. It's a great thrill and honor to play with John and the rest of the group. I don't think we fully realize how special it is. Fortunately, we've gotten to the point where we're thinking less and feeling more on stage...hopefully it's coming across to the audience.
I was asked to add my keyboard/sound module list...in Roundabout, I'm using:
Ensoniq EPS 16+ sampler with zip drive (used to map all patch changes/layers of other gear)
Korg X5
Kurzweil K2VX
Yamaha AN1X (Igor used one at one point)
Korg Prophecy
Alesis S4 sound module (wonderful flute patch..use for Siberian and a couple other songs)
EMU Vintage Keys (essential for mellotron strings and some other patches)
This gear blends very well with John's. As he's mentioned, it's great fun sitting down and picking the songs apart. Where there's one keyboard, I'll sometimes play a guitar patch, or we'll tastefully (hopefully!) add some layers to fill the stage sound.
We're getting together tomorrow night to begin arranging CTTE. Let us know if you want us provide updates from now until we're playing this epic on stage....should be interesting!
What a cool rig, Other Half!
Please, provide not only a stage report but an ongoing report of the rehearsal of the piece - would be great to hear how it comes together, I've never played that piece in a band or heard it played by anyone other than Yes! give updates as frequently as is convenient for you!!!
no name
03-10-2002, 01:44 PM
What synthesizer would you guys recommend starting out with?
Depends on what your gig is and what kind of sound you need. Can you give some more detail? There are lots of starter-synth choices ...
no name
03-10-2002, 04:31 PM
Well, I've always like the old 60s and 70s synthesizers sounds, and I would prefer something with a decent sized keyboard to it. It would also be nice if it could be found under $1000.
A fine analog synth in the $1000 range is Korg's new MS-2000. The downside of that board is that is has fewer keys, not more ... you may wish to seek one out in a store and give it a try, see what you think ... you can read about it online at www.musiciansfriend.com
Q
jpirard
04-01-2002, 05:25 PM
Haven't upgraded in years, but when I played out, our YES tribute (which we used to do in conjunction with one set of originals) was powered in the keyboards by my DW8000 for organs and some other incidental patches, a vintage poly-800 ( used for leads and midi-ed to a Yamaha module (don't remember which but the two together sounded awesome, especially during the middle fanfare of CTTE and HOTS. I had a wonderful Korg polysix retrofitted for midi, and an ENSONIC piano module, which was connected to the DW8000.
The song list was SIBERIAN KHATRU, HEART OF THE SUNRISE, OWNER OF A LONELY HEART, YOURS IS NO DISGRACE, HOLD ON, CLOSE TO THE EDGE, YOUR MOVE: I'VE SEEN ALL GOOD PEOPLE, STARSHIP TROOPER, LONG DISTANCE RUNAROUND, ROUNDABOUT,
AMERICA, SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM, LIFT ME UP, AND YOU AND I.
THAT'S ALL FOLKS.
groovecake
04-02-2002, 05:30 PM
Does anyone use a Roland XP-80, Xp-60 or JV-1080? I want some opinions on the expansion boards.
Thanks,
Mitch
therifferoo
04-30-2002, 12:19 AM
...sorry, the only Roland I have is my beloved JD800...
BUT...the guitarist in the band I'm in showed me a website that has reviews of all kinds of gear by individual users....can't remember offhand what is is, but I will ask him when I see him this weekend, and post it here for you....could be of some help.
~Riff.
gt76yesman
05-01-2002, 08:32 PM
Reading your stories of collapsing keyboard stands reminds me of a show about 7 or 8 years ago. One of our biggest shows each year was the Family Freak Festivals. These drew very good sized crowds. We had a 30 minute slot so I just brought my DX-7. I had the DX-7 on an X-frame. I can't even remember the song at this point but it came to my solo I hit the opening chord hard and the stand collapsed right out from under my fingers! Some of our good friends in front tried to help me get the stand back together but by the time we did we were back in the verse. Embarrased? Yep!
The DX-7 was unphased and I still have it. I will occasionally bring it to shows but only if I am bringing lots of keyboards.
Glendo
therifferoo
05-01-2002, 11:42 PM
Big-time been there, my friend!! How embarasskin!!
Man, I think the DXs are indestructible...I have a DX7 II FD....have had it since the late 1980s, and it has been beat to crap....poor dear...I've played literally well over a thousand shows with it, and not one problem...except the aforementioned time it "spoke in its native language" due to quirky power!! (which it survived without any trouble). Hope I haven't jinxed myself by saying this ~ LOL! ~ but, honestly, the DX has been the only synth I have ever owned that has been so dependable and problem free. The only thing I've ever done is had it cleaned periodically, and replaced the battery twice. Not bad at all!!
What kind of gear do you have, Glendo?? Tell us some of your stories!! =)
Again, welcome, fellow keyboardist!!
~Riffer.
Tip for future use: if your keyboards ever collapse on you again, the very best response (showmanship-wise) is to raise your fists to heaven in triumph, as though you MEANT for them to collapse ...
the crowd will ROAR ...
Love to all,
Q
therifferoo
05-04-2002, 02:09 PM
....the website I mentioned is www.harmonycentral.com
Check it out...lots of user reviews...may help you out.
~Riffer.
Shikedants
05-21-2002, 01:47 PM
I have:
Crumar T2 Organ (1978) - I don't use this anymore. Currently proping up my two sets of golf clubs in the basement.
Yamaha CP30 (1979) - Don't use this either. Currently beneath the Crumar T2
Korg (1980) I forget the model number, but it's the one that Jon Anderson used on the 90125 tour. Don't use this either.
Technics Digital Ensemble (2001) - I love this instrument and play it hourly when I'm at home. It replaces everything I have. It does everything too. I work for the company so the cost was minimal.
therifferoo
07-04-2002, 01:22 AM
Yesterday, the band I'm in played a gig at Taste Of Chicago. (8th year there for us!)
It was 98 degrees out, and about a zillion degrees in the sun. So, where were we? On the Fox Bandstand, right on Jackson, facing WEST, from 4:30 to 6:45......IT WAS SCORCHING!!!!!
My Roland (which is on top) was so hot, it began to just sustain everything together in weird tones....I had to quickly turn down the volume on it (was afraid to shut it off) and wait a few tunes 'til I had a four-bar break.....(*meanwhile, I'm trying to make just the DX7II suffice! Fortunately, I have quite a few split keyboard patches, BUT....*)....I spot some large white towels to the side of the stage, and I run like the wind to grab one and cover up the Roland, all 'cept for keys!! Within a few more tunes, I became brave enough to try it again, and thankfully, it worked, once the white towel had a chance to reflect a bit of the sun away. So, I played the rest of the gig with the Roland towelled like a beach baby!! Ha ha!!
And, don't you guys just love how you can't see your LEDs or read your LCDs when it's so sunny????? (Um....what patch is this?!)
The good thing was, the audience didn't seem to care, they were all having a good ol' time, and we ended up getting 2 encores!!! Ha ha ha ha!!!!
But, man, am I worn out from the heat today!!! Whew!! It was survival up there!!
~Riff!
Jackaranda
07-04-2002, 01:29 AM
I was out all day also.
I was in Chicago in 95 and when we got into town it was 107 degrees (the great heat wave was in full force). So I sort of know how brutal Chicago heat can be. Sounds like fun, though. Congrats on the encores!!! Mooooore!!!!
therifferoo
07-04-2002, 01:45 AM
LOL!!! We played The Taste that year, too!!! The horrible heat wave of 95. We had 2 shows there that day....one on the Fox Stage about 3:00 p.m., and one on the Taste Stage (other side of the fest) about 6:30. (Hour and a half each)....talk about a logistical nightmare....literally about a million people, etc.....And, it was well over 100 degrees. So, we finish our first show, and as we're coming off stage, our conga player, Jorge, turns to me and says, "Hey, Dawn, I...." and his eyes rolled back in his head, and down he went!! Paramedics took him to a cooling station, revived him, hydrated the heck out of him, and he was back in action for the second show on the other stage!!!! Man o man!!!
Talk about the ol' Broadway maxim "The show must go on!!!"
Poysonally, I'm looking forward to autumn!!! LOL!!
~Riff!
My Keyboard:
Kurzweil K2500X
Still don't have a good amp for it, can anyone recommend one?
Anyway, this baby had built in Wakeman analog sounds. There's one called Wakeman #4 which he uses on the Keys version of Starship Trooper during the solo that I wuv. There are also about 4 interval patches. They're basically two notes at once with an analog sound- like he uses on And You and I. Very cool stuff.
If any Kurzweil players would like the patches to these programmes, if they're compatible with your board, I'll be happy to send them to you.
therifferoo
09-21-2002, 03:06 AM
Sounds pretty cool, Kev....would love to check it out!!
I may be looking for a good performance-oriented board to add to my stage set-up, folks.....any suggestions????
Appreciate any input...thanks!!
~Riffer. :keyboard:
therifferoo
02-27-2003, 08:26 PM
OK. Now I am more seriously looking for a new board to add to my stage set-up.
First and foremost it must have an EXPRESSIVE, strong acoustic piano. Some nice strings, organs n such wouldn't hurt....
It must be durable, reliable, and performance friendly.
Any suggestions, you guys??
Kurzweil K2600
Korg Triton
hey keypeople
riff says she wants to get this thread going again,i wish i was around to have jumped in earlier.here's a couple of shots of my "studio",(more like a cockpit)in a spare bedroom i've dubbed "the sleep chamber orchestra".i've typed my equipment list once already today,that's my limit.i'll copy/paste it and send it later.i look forward to discussing music theory w/you w/o those annoying guitar players interfering(lol).you know how they are,more than one button,and they're lost. peace out kirk
therifferoo
02-28-2003, 10:45 AM
Hey, Brother Q? Whaddaya say we pack as many of our keyboards as will fit in my truck, and drive over to Kirk's house to play?? LOL!!
(notice, I just invite us over to your place, Kirk!! Ha ha!!)
What do you record on?
Do you mean me or Kirk? (re the recording question)
riff if the recording question was for me-i usually record into sonar 2.3,(sonic foundry acid on occassion,more for sound design)and backup,apply efx send stereo pairs into the rol.1680 in the pix.
sequencing and soundesign is really my thing,i've been w/cakewalk since 5.0. that cd rack in picture 2 is all cd-roms of wav.files,i have probably 70-80,000,more than some commercial libraries.if i can help anyone in that way,let me know.
and if the question was for me, my sequencer is the deluxe CW 9.0 package and toolbox, SoundForge is my tweaking software, and I record on a Roland VS-1680.
therifferoo
02-28-2003, 03:02 PM
Gonna be out a coupla days with music here, but will check back in Sunday....
Actually, Kirk, yeah....I have a coupla questions:
1) Do you know anything about Cubasis?
2) Or Acid? Or Fruity Loops?
Please let me know....
I have moreso just played...no sequencing, ya know. Just recording onto good old fashioned tape....and playing live. And live, I like just playing, not worrying if this or that mechanical nightmare may occur!! LOL!! So, I am a beginner at sequencing, and recording on the computer. (I'm still a beginner on the computer, comparitively, also!) ~But, I'd really like to get into multi-track recording on my PC, as well as loops, etc. Help me out?
~Riff.
hey quantum-when you're loading up riff's truck for a visit,throw your 1680 on there!we'll chain 'em and have a 32 track monster going!i'm curious-why are you sticking w/c.w.9?does sonar take up more space on your laptop?i think the minimums are up to a 400 p3 for sonar 2.3.they just added asio drivers(i'm gonna faint!)if you're using soft-synths or virtual sound canvas,latency problem over! 2.2 added the ability to download files into protools(omfi).i can't recommend upgrading enough.there's no real learning curve,it's just...super cakewalk.i'm using sound forge for an audio editor also.i got a bit p.o.'d at cakewalk when i discovered that toolbox(unlike an acid package and such)was not royalty-free.what did we pay for that,i forget.. $99 or so?the contract reads "not for commercial use".i don't know if you're aware of this,i just thought i should mention it.
riff i have a copy of cubase vst(cubasis big brother) so i can be cross-platform,but i don't use it much.
i take several of the major recording mags,and most reviews say,for a budget sequencer,go w/cakewalk home studio.
it goes for $49-59,and uses the sonar engine,the cuts from pro being a lot of stuff you might not of used anyway.
it has a few less efx,only one aux bus (to assign efx to tracks)but is a great program for the money.acid (the only software you can't discuss on the phone)i've been w/since the beta-testing prior to 2.0.in fact,i held the door at a major music store for the sonic foundry rep to wheel in his computer for a demo.
fruityloops is fun,i use 3.5,another one i've been w/since it's humble origins as a drum machine.i don't see it as a substitute for a sequencer,more for a sound design tool,and an easy to work w/drum machine.it's squarely aimed at the electronica/techno crowd,it can be kind of hard to squeeze other styles from. one good thing though,it will import acidized files,or any other.wav from disc,or stored in your drive.i use it for a "scratch pad"sometimes,acidize the file,then i can move it eventually to sonar.
i just noticed-is everyone on this forum from the mid-west?i was born and raised in indiana(although i've lived in many places)moved from indianapolis area 3 years ago...
how's the weather?(lol) kirk
therifferoo
03-03-2003, 10:32 AM
Well Kirk, despite March arriving, it's still winter with a big, chilly "W'!!!
Hey, help me figure out Cubasis?
k, I haven't stuck with CW 9.0 for any reason other than that I haven't yet had a good reason to move upward ... but I'm hoping to do some upgrade this summer, once the bills are paid, because I'm increasingly studio-bound, and playing out live much less (in 2002, I only played out 14 times, the lowest number since 1980) ...
hi riff! how was the music this weekend?-i know,those winters can be brutal.i used to hate hauling equipment into gigs in the cold.it seemed like in the last few years i spent there,it just went from nasty winter right into summer.turn off the furnace,turn on the air conditioner.
so,you already have cubasis? one nice thing is all the vst efx- (cakewalk is dx-dxi,windows based).if you're going to use acid though,it's dx based also.all the sonic foundry efx automatically work in cakewalk and vice-versa. the upside is,there's a ton of free vst efx.there's plenty you can teach me also(that middle c's around here somewhere) let me know where you are w/ cubasis,i'll help any way i can.
Q- a trekkie eh?that's a great quote.it has that "every man is my teacher.."feel.i'm a total sci-fi head,i think it shows in my stuff.
in my 20's(oh so long ago) i owned the west coast's largest comic chain,apprenticed w/michael t. gilbert on dark horse"mr.monster".in the 90's i studied comic illustration under dc comics senior editor joe kubert.
there's a fully functional 30 day free trial of sonar(longer if you keep turning the computer's clock back(lol).it has handy things like individual track meters,and you can slip edit audio like midi.you just drag the ends of the files to where you want them,hit "apply trimming".all unwanted sounds are gone.the audio view is gone from 9,everything's on the track view.
when you're ready,i'm available for consultation at a minimal fee(lol).
this is great,having this area w/players.
therifferoo
03-03-2003, 03:47 PM
Kirk, just got it. And I'm completely at square one.
First and foremost....HOW DO I RECORD TRACKS?
Kubert rocked. loved his version of Tarzan and company ... he did a mean Sgt. Rock, too ...
(wow, how old am I?)
Q-we're going to get along fine. joe was probably the first artist i could remember in comics that signed his name on the covers.it was a great honor studying w/him.he let me be the first(and only) of his students to skip first year studies.he's really tough,hard to please.he'd give out assignments like "i want 6 characters,all original,different genres,a head shot and an action pose,all on the same paper,each 12 in.tall,penciled and inked by class tomorrow"i became hopelessly addicted to caffeine,having to eventually relocate to seattle to be near a starbucks at all times.i think that's why i'm doing music now.our motto-"comics are not fun!"
riff- so you need computer recording 101. the first thing i tell a beginner is "always remember,shortest route to sound".
keep the connections simple at first.
the easiest way to get sound into a computer is a guitar cord w/a 1/4in.-1/8in.adapter(guitar cords are 1/4 in.,walkman headphones are 1/8 in.)plugged directly into the "in" on your soundcard from the headphone jack on your keyboard. you can get one of those adapters at radio shack if you don't have one.(your soundcard usually is located on the bottom back of the computer "tower".you'll see in/out,a midi slot)
assuming that cubasis installed drivers on startup,you'll probably find "options"at the top of the program.you'll want to click it,go to "audio".there,you'll choose your sound card as the in/out device.it'll probably be the only choice on the list,just click it so it's in the box.do the above,and hit record.
after playing some notes on your keys.hit stop.if everything is configured correctly,you'll see a .wav file.put the cursor at the beginning,hit play,and see if there's sound.
above all,have patience.tell yourself that someday,you'll be able to do what would have cost $200,000 15 years ago.let me know what happens.
ah, those were the glory days ... Denny O'Neil's re-invented Batman ... Jim Aparo drawing The Brave and the Bold ... Kirby's stint at DC ... Mike Grell, pre-Jon Sable ...
a tear slips down Q's cheek ...
hey,you're the man Q! korg user,cakewalk,comic books!i still have my original copies of o'neill/adams green lantern/green arrows,buscema silver surfers,kubert's enemy ace...
that's the stuff i like to collect, still relatively cheap. i have a few of the early dc annuals that look like they just came off of the rack,at least overstreet vf.i loved those grey-tone mag size warren spirits by eisner(much better than the later kitchen sinks),and i collect some oddball stuff like herbie(no,not the love-bug):nono: "you want i should bop you w/this lollipop?"herbie.
we'd better stop this,people will think we're speaking in tongues.
midwest's an awful big place,any place in particular?
therifferoo
03-08-2003, 03:05 AM
Kirk, I'm having trouble.
I got an Audigy Soundblaster to use as an in/out device....
Everything looks like it's configured properly, and I get a metronome, but nothing records. What's going on?
And, if i ever DO get something recorded...how do I do things like punch in? Fade? Mix down? Mix the cuing system? Set my recording levels? So many questions...these are just the tip of the iceberg!! LOL!
Also, how do I change tempos? Time signatures? Etc?
Oh, this is SO not just plug in and play...forgive me, that's what I'm used to....with all this hassling tonight, and no results, there goes my inspiration, ya know?? I need serious help!!
~Riffer going back to her little 4-track tape deck now!! LOL!
hey d- what is it,like 3 in the a.m.there?
if you're getting a metronome throught the speakers,that's a good thing.
an audigy is a really decent card.you'll need to go to options/audio and do the drop-down list,and select the audigy as an input/and then output device.
do you have a cord from your keyboard to the in on the soundcard?
the other thing to check is windows/multimedia,and make sure you have sound turned up.
start/settings/control panel/multimedia,L click
all the fade in,ect. comes later.
therifferoo
03-08-2003, 03:50 AM
I think I have done most all of the above already, Kirk.
Yes, the Soundblaster is selected as in/out.
Yes, I'm using RCA type cords in, and have selected the proper input on the sound card.
I would assume my sound is turned up in Windows/Multimedia? I have had no problem hearing anything else...?
start/settings/control panel/multimedia, L click...what the hayul is that all about? LOL!
I am too tired right now to tackle this any longer....I worked at it to no avail for several hours this evening...feeling a little defeated! LOL! (and yes, it's almost 3 a.m. here.)
Details, man, I need step by step, I'm afraid!! LOL!!
HELLLLLLLLP!!!!!!!
there should be some sliders for audio/midi in there,make sure their up.rca cords from where?out of your keys?
god,i can't believe i spelled"they're","their"(LOL) it's late,get some rest,we'll figure this out next available.send me a note when you're good.pees owd kurk
therifferoo
03-08-2003, 04:02 AM
No, coming from the 4-track...using it as a submix so I can have both boards up simultaneously.
o.k.,remember"shortest path to sound" we need to make sure your basic connections are good.you need to take a cord straight out of the keys to the card.
also checkstart/programs/accessories/entertainment and make sure all those sliders are up.
therifferoo
03-08-2003, 04:15 AM
All sliders up 100%
I'll try the plugging straight in on Sunday...right now, it's off to sleep, perchance to dream.....
Any other step by steps you could give me would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!! :keyboard:
Think I'll go play my acoustic piano a little while before I crash...at least I know when I play THAT, sound WILL come out of it!! LOL!
O'Neill and Adams ... now there was a team ... Oliver Queen and Hal Jordan became real people, more interesting than all the first-stringers in the DC pantheon ...
Got a basement packed to the rafters with old books, from around 1970 ... first son didn't inherit because he couldn't take good care of them ... second son, the vote's not in yet ...
Midwest is south of Indy, north of Nashville, east of St Louis and west of Philly ...
"Q!"(i wish you could hear my patrick stewart voice when i say that!) yeah,we operate on "the bloody stump"plan in regard to dad's comics.
i still have 80+long boxes,down from around 200(mostly old store stock)after the last move.i still deal in old books,i have a 1944 world's finest #2 on the block at ebay.
i almost went to continuity(adam's company)in the 90'a,but he kind of weirded me out.
there was this big semi-circle of drawing boards where the grunts work,neil elevated on a platform in the center,w/cameras aimed at the boards,neil in his command module monitoring.
it was a factory,and neil insisted that everyone draw his style(you've probably seen some continuity ads)he published those books like "toyboy"in the 90's,they all looked like neil.
kubert had a better track record,allowed more freedom of expression.
hmmmm....oh my god,you're in ken-tucky!'nothin' th be ashamed of if y'are.they just don't get those jeff foxworthy routines is all.
let me know if that was a good guess.do you have any music posted? peace kirk
actually not in kentucky --- but i can drive to kentucky in less than a day ...
i wish i had time for comics ... i miss them ...
i have a great deal of music, but not on the internet at this time ...
hey so you're not going to tell me where you live,are you?(lol)it can't be that bad.
actually,the tallest spot in the little town in indiana i'm from,is the farm bureau grain elevators.
i'd be glad to give a listen and honest opinion of your music,if you have some mp3s.no sense wasteing that triton.
if you're getting started posting music,i'd suggest broadjam.
it's a pro/reviewer's site,members in 70 countries.you give reviews to earn credits for reviews,you'll get some invaluable feedback.
i've been a top 10 reviewer 3 times for accuracy@99.8%,just this week i went 3 for 3 tunes that have went # 1.
my tune "this lonely corner"is in pop/dreampop,"gridspace" has been # 1 in newage,soundtrack,top 10 in 9 categories,all-genre northwest,still hanging around after 100+days.
peace kirk/zenpool www.broadjam.com
I think ALL of the tallest points in Indiana are farm bureau grain elevators ...
therifferoo
03-08-2003, 05:59 PM
Oddly enough, I'm off to do a gig in Indiana in a sec....
Michigan City's Mayor's Ball, to be exact!! LOL!
Tomorrow I would like to try the Cubasis stuff again...Kirk, if you're here, I may tug on your sleeve, if that's ok!
ASeasonedWitch
02-14-2004, 11:58 PM
I play a Rhodes stage 73, with a Moog Opus III on top of it, next to that an Enqoniq KS-32, with a Korg DW-8000 on top of that, and a cheap Yamaha on top of that (for clavs and mellotrons.)
-Bill
therifferoo
02-15-2004, 12:34 AM
:clap: Welcome to Yesfans, Bill!! :clap:
You're a keyboardist after my own heart: ANALOG RULES!!! :D I LOVE Moogs! A sound like no other synth in the universe!
Have you checked out the "new" MiniMoog? I've read about it, but have yet to get my hands on one. PRICEY!! I still kick myself for selling mine way back when. I should have kept my Taurus pedals, too. At least I still have my MemoryMoog Plus, though.
I used to have a Fender Rhodes 88 key...the suitcase model...and it was funny how everybody would disappear during set-ups and tear-downs!! LOL! If you have a phase shifter, try running your Rhodes through it with the phase slow and pretty much full throttle...turn your tremelo on the Rhodes on, slow rate, wide trem....voila!....Led Zep "No Quarter" sound to a T. I used to like to play around with running the Rhodes through various guitar players' pedals and seeing how trippy I could make it sound. The guitar players didn't always appreciate me fooling around with their pedals, tho. Ha ha!!
I'm still looking for a back-up Roland JD800 for road travel....anyone with any leads, much appreciated. Saw one on ebay, but it was from the UK and ran on 220. (bummer!)
Anyway....again, Bill, welcome to Yesfans!! Nice to see another keyboardist in the family!!
Peace
~Riff. :yesbird:
hi s.w.- this is cool... did you notice riff's and my post was feb.8, 2003? haha
good hearing from another keys person!
hi riff ! (if you see this)
therifferoo
02-15-2004, 12:57 AM
Hey, kirk! How's it going?
If you want to see what I've been up to, visit
www.buenotheband.com
We're gearing up for the Latin Christian Music Awards in L.A. in a few weeks...hope to make some breakthroughs there.
gt76yesman
02-15-2004, 01:05 AM
Hola, wow, this thread is old, but I am having a blast reading through it.
gt
therifferoo
02-15-2004, 01:12 AM
Glendo-o-o-o-o-o!! Que pasa, amigo?
Think I'll read through this thread for a few laughs, too.
Gabriel is on the road with Malo for a few days, so I'm kicking back on the PC for a while here. Their shows at HP Pavillion and Arco Arena were great....packed houses.
fovman
05-09-2004, 01:35 AM
Emu systems: Proteus1, Proteus2, Vintage Keys, Procussion
Roland JV-90
Kurzweil
Yamaha KX88 anf Fatar keyboard MIDI controllers
Marshall jmp-1 - for guitar samples
Various processing rack units: Lexicon etc.
Cakewalk sequencing program
therifferoo
05-13-2004, 01:10 PM
Hey, fovman!! Welcome to Yesfans!!
Nice setup!! What kind of music do you play? Gigging with anyone? Writing? Tell us about your work!
How do you like Cakewalk? I've never worked with it....was trying to figure out Cubase, and got frustrated. Now I'm using ProTools, and I love it!! Still learning as I go along, but so far have gotten really good results. Anybody else out there using ProTools?
CybrKhatru
05-13-2004, 06:06 PM
Wow...finally found this thread!
Let's see:
Roland SoundCanvas, JP8000, JV1080, JX3P
E-mu Vintage Keys (would really like to get the new version of this!)
Kurzweil SP88
Sure wish I'd tried to obtain some analog gear about 10-15 years ago, when you could get stuff for a song!! Oh well...
Just upgraded me Mac, so now it's time to try DP4.1 and see how well it works!
--Matt
Sonoacustico
05-13-2004, 08:25 PM
I can't believe after a couple of years being on yesfans and haven't posted here before LOL
This is my gear:
Synths:
-Roland JV-90
-Roland JP-8000
-Korg 01/Wfd
-Yamaha CS1x
Sound Modules:
-Korg N1R
-Korg Triton Rack
-Roland JV-880
-Alesis DM pro
MIDI Controllers:
-Roland A-33
-Roland PK-5 (Pedals)
I have the setup splitted between home, my band's rehearsal room, and my recording studio.
I (as many of you) love the analog sounds, but no chance to get any of that kind of gear by now. At least the JP8000 is a very good approach to analog ;)
I got some really cool mellotron samples in wav format somewhere and brought them to the triton, and got VERY good results, it's impossible not to try to play King Crimson's "Starless" or "The Court of the Crimson King" having those sounds, lol.
I play in a prog band, writting our own stuff, and currently working on our second album. And also I'm in a tribute band, doing mostly Marillion stuff, but also Genesis, Journey, Toto and GTR. In fact, tomorrow we're having a gig playing marillion stuff (some time ago we did the album "Misplaced Childhood" in its entirety ;) ) Will anybody be in Santiago, Chile tomorrow night? lol well, it would be great to see any yesfans around ;)
Greetings to all!
Claudio
hey all! great to see new faces, and especially new keys people!
i've been using a jp-8000, great keyboard. i'm finally beginning to master
the korg karma, just a fantastic keyboard if you have the
time to devote.
we're in the process of expanding zenpool into a "virtual supergroup",
all members w/ great track records, fanbases.
recently brit guitarist steve hall (also of "the Questionnaires") and i have
recruited second gen super bassist Von Babasin of "ONOFFON", the son of
hollywood jazz legend Harry Babasin.
also on board is new drummer joel veatch of "jamcamp".
joel also happens to be the co-owner of songplanet.com,
full owner of rifftrader.com, flyingspot video.
zenpool's finally becoming the prog band i've always envisioned.
our first release as a band, one "majiker" by name, will
be along shortly.
p e a c e kirk/zenpool
IOMA award winner for "best producer" 2004
fovman
05-13-2004, 09:40 PM
Hey, fovman!! Welcome to Yesfans!!
Nice setup!! What kind of music do you play? Gigging with anyone? Writing? Tell us about your work!
How do you like Cakewalk? I've never worked with it....was trying to figure out Cubase, and got frustrated. Now I'm using ProTools, and I love it!! Still learning as I go along, but so far have gotten really good results. Anybody else out there using ProTools?
I have a "real job" now so I am not in a band. I concentrate on composing and recording. I released a solo CD (Field of View/The Zoa Factor) in 1998 which is prog rock. (i.e Kansas, Yes, Pink Floyd, etc). My singer left town and I am doing all instrumental now. Since I discovered Dream Theater (Scenes from a Memory) I have become more Prog Metal. At the same time at the other end alot MORE classical. I have been studying Classical Composition and reading composers' biographies and memoirs trying to get inside their heads. Cakewalk works well. I have not used anything else...so I cannot compare. I have developed suprisingly realistic MIDI programming on drums and guitar.
Thanks for inquiring!
www.fieldofview.com
=>Tim
fovman
05-13-2004, 09:48 PM
I also have the first ALL digital MIDI synthesizer made to interface with a computer sound library via RS-232 to a Kaypro II.
It is retired from use as furniture.
Synergy DK II - (same used by Wendy Carlos on :"A Clockwork Orange" and "Tron")
P.S Also retired:
Roland S-550 sampler
Roland MKS-20 piano
the equipment budget has taken a beating
from the purchase of a new custom-built audio computer,
a 512 p4 2.53 running sonar 3 producer, acid 4.0,
sony soundforge 7 w/ waves restoration bundle,
cd architect 5.0., sony 17' flat panel monitor.
fovman- i understand completely, my classical pieces
haven't dropped from the besonic.com (germany) charts in months.
if you have a chance- have a listen at www.soundclick.com/zenpool .
kirk/zenpool
CybrKhatru
05-25-2004, 12:17 PM
P.S Also retired:
Roland MKS-20 piano
Fovman--
You were smart---you had the rackmount version! For many years I had the RD-1000, which, to be fair, was a great instrument for its time, but was an absolute nightmare to cart around! We eventually traded it in for something LIGHTER and more updated--the Kurz SP88.
I've noticed that a good many of us have the JP-8000....Coincidence? I think not! :)
---Matt
cyber k.- have you tried sysx/d.l.ing new patches from the korg site?
i read somewhere that there's some killer stuff.
after i bought mine, i read an interview w/ wakeman, and he mentioned
that he planned to buy one.
i attended a friend's music store "preferred customer" clearance sale, waaay out in the boonies, that normally caters to a more "county-ish" crowd.
in the corner was the jp-8000. here it comes- brand new....$349!!!!
i spoke w/ another bud that ran the keys dept. at a major, he said
"crap! that's 1/2 of what we pay for them!"
what a score!
p e a c e kirk/zenpool
therifferoo
05-31-2004, 04:38 PM
Dang, Kirk!! What a buy THAT was!!
Claudio....my friend, you could practically start a music store of your own!! LOL! And, I totally agree with you....nothing beats the analog sounds.
hiya riff! how's the west coast/married life treatin' ya?
i'm not missing the midwest much after yesterday, 21 tornadoes
tearing up the ol'home state. how about you?
kirk
therifferoo
05-31-2004, 05:19 PM
Doing well, Kirk...you?
Bueno is doing great....played at the Kodak Theater in Hollywood a coupla weeks back...that was a treat. We're in Ventura this coming weekend, and have Colorado, New Mexico and El Paso slated for the end of the month. Also, have a big one coming up early September at the L.A. Coliseum!! Working out details of a short tour including Miami and Puerto Rico this fall.
Sometime soon, too, we will begin recording the 2nd CD....we have tons of new material just aching to be recorded big.
Weather here is fantastic....blue skies, summer temperatures....kinda miss those Midwest thunderstorms, though....NOT the tornadoes, however!!
(Q's house got damaged by a fallen tree but everyone ok...)
And married life is more blissful than ever...I have the best husband I could imagine....we just celebrated our 1st anniversary!! Can you believe it?? Tempus fugit.....
BTW...meant to tell you...cool pic, Kirk...lookin' pretty hip there, dude!! LOL!
Keep us all posted on your projects...
Peace, keyboard brother...
~Riff.
hey, keyboard people ... sold my Hammond XK-2 last week, and the tears are still falling ...
aww man... that's rough Q.
you can still find old hammond m3s, ect. for a decent
price for that old drawbar sound(emerson used an m3 in "the nice").
i bought a 1956 m3 at an antique mall a few years ago,
in rare black lacquer w/ the "selectone" option,
matching bench, hammond ps-30 tone cabinet to boot
for only $500 .
riff- doing well! our next piece has been guaranteed a spot
on several online prog radio stations, including "aural moon",
the biggest!- www.auralmoon.com
i believe we'll be the first indies in rotation there.
we've recently added von "ONOFFON" babasin on bass, the
son of hollywood jazz great harry babasin, of art pepper's band,
+ joel veatch of "jamcamp" on drums.
joel's also the owner of songplanet, rifftrader, flying spot video,
composed the seattle sonics theme.
good to hear the music's taking off for you-the L.A. coliseum ??!?
that's soooo cool! you deserve every good thing that comes your way.
you've always been so supportive, i can't tell you how
much i appreciate it. maybe we'll be bragging about this someday,eh?
p e a c e kirk/zenpool
therifferoo
05-31-2004, 10:46 PM
Wow, Kirk...thanks, man. Hey....aural moon...excellent!! Great exposure!
Let us know when we can check it out!! Would love to hear some of your new stuff.
Sounds like you have a great lineup...nothing like working with great musicians. Bueno has been using Greg Errico on drums, which has been a treat...Greg was the drummer for Sly and the Family Stone...yup, played Woodstock, Ed Sullivan Show, all that stuff. He's really a solid drummer, and a genuinely nice, humble guy. It's an honor to work with him.
Yeah....L.A. Coliseum...can you believe it? As if the Kodak wasn't enough!! LOL! About a month and a half ago we played the L.A. Convention Center for the Latin Christian Music Awards...I think TBN or Telemundo picked that up. Not sure. But, we were the only unsigned artists to be invited to play....we did the whole red carpet entrance n everythang....hilarious....we were just like, "Uh, ok, um, Hi, we're Bueno!" LOL!!
Q ~ I shouldn't ask "why?", but "WHY???!!!" Aw, man....that hurts!
Kevin Still
06-01-2004, 07:37 PM
Hi ho!
I have a Hammond C2 that I am restoring and adding the percussion kit to. (Looking for a Leslie). A Fender Rhodes Satellite 88 key piano. A Roland JV-80. A Roland XP-10, and a Roland SH-101. A Studiologic SL-990 pro powering a Kurzwiel Micro piano unit. An Opcode midi patch bay. My drum machines are an Alesis SR-16 and a Roland TR-505.
Love that Roland stuff!
Don't even get me started on guitars!!!!
Best wishes,
Kevin
Oh, and congrats on the L.A. Coliseum gig!
hi kevin- the "2" series dates back to the late 40's, early 50's right?
here's a good link to find a leslie or just to drool-
www.b3hammond.com
kirk/zenpool
Kevin Still
06-02-2004, 08:16 AM
Hey Kirk,
I seem to recall dating mine to the 1954 time period. You can tell it is a early model because the draw bars "click" when you move them. They don't have the smooth feel of the later models. It still sounds good though except there is a "pop" when you turn on the vibrato and the vibrato scanner does not work consistantly. I have a source for the repairs but it is a few hundred and I need the cash for other things at this time so I am holding off just a bit.
Thank you for the site on hooking up on a Leslie. I will check it out at home.
Kevin
you guys are not exactly abating my tears here ...
Kevin Still
06-02-2004, 05:36 PM
Sorry dude! I want to tell you that I had a C3 as well but sold it for $1000 bucks year before last cause I was out of a job. Had I known... you would have been my first contact.
aww Q- that thing had too many buttons on it
for a guitarist anyway! :razz:
immordino
06-03-2004, 07:26 AM
Do any of the keyboard players in this thread know a good place to get the keyboard riffs from Yes pieces? I especially am looking for the organ solo from Roundabout. I tried slowing it down, but it degraded the quality to the point that the notes aren't recognisable.
I've heard of the books Classic Yes - Selections from Yesyears and COMPLETE YES, however having my own Yes book, I realized that the instrumental parts can be sparcely transcribed.
Any suggestions?
one way to do this is to download MIDI sequences of complete Yes songs, then load them into a sequencing program such as Cakewalk that has conversion to manuscript format. you can isolate the keyboard channel and convert that channel only, then print out the part.
MIDI sequences for downloading can be found at www.musicrobot.com, among other places. enter either 'Yes' or 'Roundabout' and you'll get dozens of sources of MIDI sequences.
Do any of the keyboard players in this thread know a good place to get the keyboard riffs from Yes pieces? I especially am looking for the organ solo from Roundabout. I tried slowing it down, but it degraded the quality to the point that the notes aren't recognisable.
I've heard of the books Classic Yes - Selections from Yesyears and COMPLETE YES, however having my own Yes book, I realized that the instrumental parts can be sparcely transcribed.
Any suggestions?
..adding, most soundcards have a built-in virtual
keyboard that plays midi files(although gen midi sounds cheesy).
in a "keyboard" interview, wakeman made the statement
that he doesn't provide transcription of his parts.
any notation, midi files are someone's interpretation.
best
kirk/zenpool
trillian
06-24-2004, 07:05 PM
I have owned almost every serious analogue synth around at one time or another (Oberheims, Moogs, etc.) as well as PPG 2.2 with MIDI and odd things like the Synergy DK.
My current list is;
Memorymoog Plus
Sequential Prophet 600
Korg Z-1
Korg MS-20
Micromoog
Virus C
Nord Modular rack (original version)
Waldorf microwave XT rack
Kurz K2000RS
Yamaha EX5R
Korg wavestation A/D
Kawai K5000R
Kawai K5R
Alesis S4
Dave Smith Evolver
YamahaTG-33
GEM rodeo organ
Massive amounts of Simmons drums
and various electronic percussion
Various outboard gear including some
vintage effects, MAMVF11 vocoder etc. etc.
Hammond 'auto-vari' percussion module
Selmer auto-rhythm beat box
circuit-bent Boss TR505 drum machine
Roland 505 seq/sampler/drum machine
yamaha RM1X
various test oscillators and other weirdness
Massive amounts of software and
several PCs to run it all.
-Sheryl
wow, sheryl! -
...are you a doctor, or did you hit the lottery? ;-)
do you have music online that i can listen to?
trillian
06-25-2004, 05:28 AM
wow, sheryl! -
...are you a doctor, or did you hit the lottery? ;-)
do you have music online that i can listen to?
No, I just collected stuff over the years and drove old used cars etc:) There was a time when I was making very good money and poured it all into my studio and now I have paired down to just the stuff I really use and I still collect vintage weird things whenever I see them. I also bought and sold synths for a while in the early nineties and made good money that way. Nowadays most of the original analogue synths are hard to come by and very expensive but there was a time when you could find them really cheap.
You can hear a few things here; http://astromill.com
jeremy
06-27-2004, 12:43 PM
i have a korg triton le 61. an incredible instrument. i have recorded my own songs using it. i have a website address www.jeremydavidrichards.co.uk if anybody would like to listen to snippets of the tracks.
therifferoo
07-03-2004, 09:14 PM
Wheeeeeeeeeee!!!! Hey, Sheryl, can I come over n play?? LOL!!
YEAH!! You're the only other person I currently know of who has a MemoryMoog Plus. Mine is ill right now....any ideas on getting it repaired?? I would imagine parts are next to impossible to come by....plus, I just moved from my hometown of Chicago all the way out to California about a year ago, and I left my tech of 20-plus years behind there :crybby: I don't really have anyone here who I know to trust it to. I need to get my eldest child up and breathing again....nothing beats the LFO on that baby. Any suggestions? I still have the manual/schematics....just not electronically educated enough to repair it myself.
Tried to check out some of your tunage, but I couldn't get anything to download...would love to hear ya.
Jeremy...listened to excerpts from your new tunes....good stuff, man!!
For amusement, here's a vintage pic of me (circa 1984?) with my MemoryMoog Plus!! LOL!!
~Riff.
Timmo
07-04-2004, 01:27 AM
No, I just collected stuff over the years and drove old used cars etc:) There was a time when I was making very good money and poured it all into my studio and now I have paired down to just the stuff I really use and I still collect vintage weird things whenever I see them. I also bought and sold synths for a while in the early nineties and made good money that way. Nowadays most of the original analogue synths are hard to come by and very expensive but there was a time when you could find them really cheap.
You can hear a few things here; http://astromill.comGREAT downloads on your site Cheryl! I especially liked "Changed Man."
RIFF, what's the deal with the stadium gig in LA? INFO PLEASE! Would love to hear you play, I love your posts in this thread!
TIM
Venice, CA
trillian
07-04-2004, 06:31 AM
Hi Riff,
There was a repair centre in LA that I used to use when I lived out there and they were pretty good. It's been about 12 years now so I only vaguely remember, I think they were called something like music tek or something and they were located in North Hollywood if memory serves. They were originally called something else but I can't remember that name either :) I had to have a memorymoog serviced once and they did a good job and seemed to be very reasonably priced. I don't know what the parts availability on the memorymoog is like these days.
There's no reason you wouldn't be able to download the files on my site, must be betwork traffic or server maintenance something. If you have at least a 256K DSL line they will stream otherwise you can download them.
Laterz,
Sheryl
weebl
12-05-2004, 05:38 PM
UFO 61 Intercontinental Organ
Crucianelli Crumar Compac Piano
fovman
06-11-2005, 02:44 AM
Sorry dude! I want to tell you that I had a C3 as well but sold it for $1000 bucks year before last cause I was out of a job. Had I known... you would have been my first contact.
I had a Hammond CV w/perc. and sold it..........damn!
w/122RV beefed-up leslie
.....along with 4 ARPs (2 Odysseys, Quadra, String Ensemble)
a Minimoog and a Crumar Stratus
...I only kept my Yamaha CP70B piano.
It was a hell of keyboard stage setup for the time.
I went all MIDI.......from the stage to the studio.
Composing and recording has a more permanent shelf-life.
WOW! ...do you realize that the last post on this threadwas made
dec.2004? i haven't spoken to riff in ages! riff..if you're out there...
...i'm game to revive it if everyone else is....
i've released a cd...i can't remember all the changes to my rig
since this thread...i recently upgraded the system to completely
24bit, bought a roland fantom x6. howzat?
kirk
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www.towerrecords.com/zenpool
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