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pinkfloyd1973
04-29-2004, 03:25 PM
I would love to start a thread to compile facts and trivia regarding Yes songs.

E.G.
•Owner of a lonely heart was the one and only #1 hit for Yes.
•Cinema won best rock instumental Grammy award in 1984.

bataisflow
04-29-2004, 03:51 PM
Yes was the first band to use lasers and an In the Round stage setup in concert.

Rick Wakeman was the first keyboard player to stack his keyboards.

soulsearcher
04-29-2004, 06:44 PM
steve howe..
was pictured on the cover of "time and a word", but did not play at all on this album.
peter banks did. peter quit right after recording the album, and wouldn't do any photo shoots for it.

steve was also was the first to introduce the formerly "country only" instrument, the steel pedal guitar, into the world of prog rock.

GO STEVE! :guitar:

tranceofdances
05-21-2004, 01:52 AM
i have a few actually....yes borrowed the chords for yours is no disgrace from the old tv show "bonanza" yes hung mics from coat hangers to amplify the orchestra when they played live during the taaw shows. chris squire called rick wakeman at 2:45am to ask him if he wanted to join the band...lol rick initially said no, and asked him if he knew what time it was...lol....this isn't really about yes, but about rick, but he had a minor heart attack on stage in either a 74 or 75 performance, in 75 they were playing at "QPR", which there is a dvd of....and coming back out onto stage to do the encores patrick moraz tripped and nearly broke his neck right in front of steve howe, and steve jokingly stuck his leg out pretending he tripped him...lol now a little song meaning....to me, after really listening to the lyrics of ctte....i think this song was written on some sort of religious idea, ex.....the whole "the man who showed his out stretched arms to space, he turned around and pointed revealing all the human race" don't quote me, but seems so. ok...some trivia.... does anyone know how old rick wakeman was when he left yes the 1st time? does anyone know who steve was playing for b4 joining yes? does anyone know what exactly bill bruford said was one of the main reasons he left? does anyone know which member of yes was in the hospital prior to the album talk?
jason
"lost in trance of dances, as rythm takes another turn"

BigGenerator
06-23-2004, 07:19 PM
What's the meaning of "final eyes" ?

umgekehrt
06-26-2004, 02:43 AM
What's the meaning of "final eyes" ?

Ask Peggy

BlueEagle
06-26-2004, 03:37 AM
The wierd instrumental section in the middle of "Perpetual Change" is actually the song's melody line played at double speed (with some audio effects). This was also one of the first Pre-Wakeman uses of a synthesizer.

Scooty
06-26-2004, 03:48 AM
Robert Fripp was ALMOST Peter Banks replacement
Vangelis was ALMOST Wakey's replacement in '74
Roger Hogdsen of Supertramp was ALMOST Jon's replacement in '88
Gates of Delirium is loosely based on Tolstoy's "War and Peace"
ABWH played "Quartet" and "Let's Pretend" on the first nite of the tour only..In Memphis
Jon...officially changed his name from John...to Jon...because he always felt he was a Jonathan...
"Open Your Eyes" started out it's life as "Wish I Knew" as far back as the "Chris Squire Experiment Tour" in 1992

brotherofmine
06-26-2004, 08:03 PM
"White Bicycle" made famous by Nazereth, was actually first recorded by "Tomorrow" which included a young guitarist called Steve Howe, (the drummer was "Twink" who joined "Pink Fairies".)

umgekehrt
06-26-2004, 08:48 PM
"The Solution" (OYE) is the longest Yes tune at 23:47, even longer than "Gates of Delirium" (Relayer) at 21:54. Of course, most of it is compilation of backing vocals tracks from the whole album.

Shikedants
06-26-2004, 08:49 PM
Somewhere in YesFans I have a post where I counted all the words in every song and point out some tid bits. I'll look for that file.

ASeasonedWitch
06-26-2004, 09:43 PM
after really listening to the lyrics of ctte....i think this song was written on some sort of religious idea, ex.....the whole "the man who showed his out stretched arms to space, he turned around and pointed revealing all the human race"


The lyrics to close to the edge were based on the book "Siddartha" by Herman Hesse. Go out and get a copy from your local library, as its quite a good book.

-Bill

cinderella
06-26-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by pinkfloyd1973

Owner of a lonely heart was the one and only #1 hit for Yes.

Yeah, and Trevor says he wrote the bass line for 'Owner' while he was in the toilet. He said it was a "particularly long visit." :lol:

umgekehrt
06-26-2004, 10:56 PM
Yeah, and Trevor says he wrote the bass line for 'Owner' while he was in the toilet. He said it was a "particularly long visit." :lol:

No wonder the song stinks.

LOL j/k. I love Owner

cinderella
06-27-2004, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by umgekehrt

No wonder the song stinks.

Yeah I was waiting for that one. :lmao:

Symbol
06-29-2004, 10:44 AM
Yeah, and Trevor says he wrote the bass line for 'Owner' while he was in the toilet. He said it was a "particularly long visit." :lol:


Gives a whole new meaning to the saying of wishing you were a fly on the wall during that event!


(okay, that was gross...but I couldn't resist!) :toilet:

Bugeyes
06-29-2004, 11:11 AM
What's the meaning of "final eyes" ?Ask PeggyI don’t know, cause I don’t “do” lyrics. What does it mean?

I do know:
hot color, melting the anger to stone cold
is in reference to Kent State, four dead in Ohio.

And the other one is Jon viewing of the children being lead by an suicide bomber out of the Jewish day care center in California...I'll get back to you on that one, it escapes me at the moment. One of the undines are hiding it from me, it's one of their favorite pass times with me, stealing nouns mostly.
:angle2:

Found it:
Spirit of Survival, Magnification
...
Can’t keep this picture from out of my mind
This fear hand in hand crossing innocence, time
Surrounding creation they caught in a trap
The youngest offenders will witness confusion ...

cinderella
07-20-2004, 09:58 PM
Back in the early eighties before Trevor Rabin joined Yes, he was asked to play keyboards for Foreigner on their tour. He was supposed to go to a rehearsal in New York City, so he took a cab to where the rehearsal was supposed to be. The cab driver made a mistake,and left him off in Harlem.

As he walked around hunting someone who could give him directions to the right address, he ran into a bunch of shady looking people who looked like they were going to rob him, kill him, who knows. Luckily they left him alone. He finally found a cab to take him to the right address.

So to make a long story short...when he got home, he wrote City Of Love.

Jackaranda
07-21-2004, 06:10 PM
Trevor also auditioned for an 80's band called Asia.

brotherofmine
07-21-2004, 06:40 PM
In a music paper in 70's (I now forget which one) Jon had explained the lyrics to "Yours Is No Disgrace" , the details of which I don't remember, but the essence of it is, that it was about Northern Ireland. (Struggle for power between IRA and Britain)

Amdusias
07-21-2004, 09:27 PM
In a music paper in 70's (I now forget which one) Jon had explained the lyrics to "Yours Is No Disgrace" , the details of which I don't remember, but the essence of it is, that it was about Northern Ireland. (Struggle for power between IRA and Britain)

Whoah! Really? The Yes Album remastered's liner notes say it was about Vietnam, but I guess it can be misinterpreted for another war, and the Ireland conflict makes more sense anyway since it'd be closer to the group's home. Cool, thanks!

Professor Yessor
09-14-2004, 03:56 PM
In an interview from Jon, long ago, read it in NFTE long ago, Jon explained that the lyrics at the end of "To Be Over" don't mean anything, they're just phonemes, a little
more interesting than "la la la". ( Talk about driving ME nuts over the years trying to
figure those out. )

In the same interview, Jon mentioned that he believes fairies invented the laser beam and gave the knowledge to mankind.

Jackaranda
09-14-2004, 04:02 PM
In a 94 interview in Yes Magazine, Jon said that at the LA Forum concert on the Union tour a beam of light from a UFO came thru the ceiling during the finale of Awaken and encircled him.

Also, it's just my opinion that Rabin's section at the beginning of Endless Dream (after Silent Spring) is about the criticism he's received from Troopers.

BrianD
09-15-2004, 07:47 AM
Whoah! Really? The Yes Album remastered's liner notes say it was about Vietnam, but I guess it can be misinterpreted for another war, and the Ireland conflict makes more sense anyway since it'd be closer to the group's home. Cool, thanks!

I'm not sure that it was specifically about a particular war. In 1972 Jon said 'My idea was a soldier crawling out of the mud, not wanting to be there and if he was going to be dead tomorrow why not rape and plunder and kill and fornicate? Its not HIS disgrace, its the evil bastards that put him there'.

In the same interview he said that in the section of CTTE 'Two hundred women watch one woman cry - too late' there were parallels with Ireland - 'a woman seeing her child killed will obviously want to fight back'.

Paul McCartney was the group's first choice for producer of The Yes Album

Andersonic
09-15-2004, 08:31 AM
does anyone know how old rick wakeman was when he left yes the 1st time?

I believe he was 25...there is a video where he says that while having a hit solo record he was out of YES and it was his birthday...I believe his 25th...

capnkrk
09-15-2004, 09:32 AM
The lyrics to close to the edge were based on the book "Siddartha" by Herman Hesse. Go out and get a copy from your local library, as its quite a good book.

-Bill

Wasn't that TFTO?

BrianD
09-16-2004, 12:29 AM
Wasn't that TFTO?

No it was CTTE

pacman1959
10-01-2004, 08:55 AM
Yes beat Led-Zeppelin's record by selling out Madison Square Garden 16 consecutive times during the Drama tour!

I have some questions I can post as Trivia or I could write them as statements, how would you like it?

Shikedants
10-01-2004, 09:06 AM
Yes beat Led-Zeppelin's record by selling out Madison Square Garden 16 consecutive times during the Drama tour!

I have some questions I can post as Trivia or I could write them as statements, how would you like it?


As much as I would like to believe this, it is not true. Yes played MSG for 3 nights for the Drama tour, all of which I attended. What is true is that through the Drama tour, they would have sold out the Garden for 16 time, dating back to the early 70s. Still a very impressive record, and a true record for MSG at the time (the Ron Greshner/Ron Duguay/Pat Hickey years). As I sat at the Phil Collins show last week, and looked at the banners of Willis Reed, Walt Frazier, Bill Bradley and Rod Gilbert, I though that a Yes banner would truly be appropriate.

pacman1959
10-01-2004, 12:08 PM
As much as I would like to believe this, it is not true. Yes played MSG for 3 nights for the Drama tour, all of which I attended. What is true is that through the Drama tour, they would have sold out the Garden for 16 time, dating back to the early 70s. Still a very impressive record, and a true record for MSG at the time (the Ron Greshner/Ron Duguay/Pat Hickey years). As I sat at the Phil Collins show last week, and looked at the banners of Willis Reed, Walt Frazier, Bill Bradley and Rod Gilbert, I though that a Yes banner would truly be appropriate.

Ok sold out the Garden 16 times through the Drama tour, I mis-worded the post. I can see how you would read it wrong. Let's try that again.

Yes-played madison Square Garden many times during their career. As a matter of fact they beat Led Zeppelins record by selling out the Garden 16 times in a row over the course of a few years, not 16 times during one tour. The streak ended after the Drama tour.
I was at two of the three shows also!

Does that sound better? Sorry about the confusion. Thanks for being on top of things!

Shikedants
10-01-2004, 12:19 PM
The funny thing is recently when Jon Anderson was subbing for the late Scott Muni a few weeks ago, he said the same thing you did.

pacman1959
10-01-2004, 01:08 PM
The funny thing is recently when Jon Anderson was subbing for the late Scott Muni a few weeks ago, he said the same thing you did.

Wow that's pretty neat, I came across this trivia in March of this year as I was planning a Yes gathering. Credit for this one goes to Don from the "Delicious Agony" program.
Since I've been in Florida for the past 14 years I had no way of listening to Scott Muni, or his program. When did Scottso die?
Thanks for the info!
I will post some other Trivia when I get home from work tonight around 9:00 or 10:00 p.m.

Yes Lover
10-01-2004, 03:32 PM
Wasn't that TFTO?

No. TFTO was inspired by (or based on) Paramhansa Yoganada's "Autobiography of a Yogi"

Timmo
10-01-2004, 03:53 PM
No. TFTO was inspired by (or based on) Paramhansa Yoganada's "Autobiography of a Yogi"Actually it was based on a lengthy footnote in PY's book detailing the ancient Shastric Scriptures, of which there are four (one for each movement of TFTO).

Eagle
10-01-2004, 04:32 PM
hi! just dropping my name so no one thinks i died -just busy with 11 units ill try to get on more often.

pacman1959
10-02-2004, 08:59 AM
How many different keyboardist have toured with Yes (fulltour-not just one show) and who are they?

pacman1959
10-02-2004, 06:29 PM
How many different keyboardist have toured with Yes (fulltour-not just one show) and who are they?

There have been 5
Tony Kaye, Rick Wakeman, Geoff Downes, Igor Khorochev, and Tom Brislin

BrianD
10-02-2004, 06:44 PM
What about Patrick Moraz? That makes 6.

Also there were a few keyboard players below/behind the stage in the Yeswest era to bolster the playing of Kaye.

Andersonic
10-03-2004, 03:38 AM
What!!?? One Hand Tony is actually Five Hand Tony??

(I knew this but I like to make fun about Tony's One Hand showoff)

JJGeers
10-03-2004, 06:47 AM
He never showed it that much, but Alan White would seem a fine keyboardist as well to me!... :D

And what about Anderson? You should hear this guy on honky tonk piano....

Love,

Jasper

pacman1959
10-03-2004, 11:27 AM
Good Catch.....Moraz how could I forget!
As far as Tony's help....those are the mystery men.
Kind of like the bass player for Sid V.

Orbert
10-03-2004, 09:18 PM
Forgive my ignorance, though I suppose in a Trivia thread it's okay, but what is the connection between Yes and Scott Muni?

Orbert

pacman1959
10-07-2004, 06:58 PM
Scot muni used to play a lot of progressive rock. Yes was one of the top bands he would play. Also Scot was like the man of New York! Anyone who was anyone in music knew that Scot Muni and WNEW FM was the place to be! So Scot and Jon became friends, and the rest as they say is history.

Orbert
10-08-2004, 01:36 PM
Cool. Thanks!

Orb

Jackaranda
10-08-2004, 02:37 PM
When Yes was on In Concert in 94, when Talk was just being released, Scott Muni was shown interviewing Jon and Trevor. They talked about computerized recording and Endless Dream.

Jackaranda
10-08-2004, 02:40 PM
What!!?? One Hand Tony is actually Five Hand Tony??

(I knew this but I like to make fun about Tony's One Hand showoff)


:dog:

rickweber
10-09-2004, 09:49 AM
If anyone finds The King Biscuit live GTR thing, cd or lp, There's a nice version of Steve's Pennants on it. Makes it worth having.

remembering
10-12-2004, 12:00 PM
Maybe one for Total Mass

What does 'A Seasoned Witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace
and rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace' supposed to mean

remembering
10-12-2004, 12:13 PM
In a music paper in 70's (I now forget which one) Jon had explained the lyrics to "Yours Is No Disgrace" , the details of which I don't remember, but the essence of it is, that it was about Northern Ireland. (Struggle for power between IRA and Britain)

Interesting as a Purple Wolfhound - as I understand - was a nickname give to a US helicopter gunship used in Vietnam

Orbert
10-12-2004, 01:14 PM
Interesting as a Purple Wolfhound - as I understand - was a nickname give to a US helicopter gunship used in Vietnam
This fits in better with what I'd heard, which is that it was about Vietnam.

On the other hand, it seems a British band would be far less likely to write about Vietnam than about the situation in Ireland. So who knows? :huh:

Orb

Timmo
10-12-2004, 01:18 PM
Maybe one for Total Mass

What does 'A Seasoned Witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace
and rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace' supposed to meanI think only Jon knows.

I've also read that that lyric is actually misprinted and should read "A season which could call you from the depths of your disgrace."

The "rearrange your liver" line, though, who knows?

remembering
10-14-2004, 04:10 AM
I think only Jon knows.

I've also read that that lyric is actually misprinted and should read "A season which could call you from the depths of your disgrace."

The "rearrange your liver" line, though, who knows?

Makes a bit more sence. I remember seeing a TV interview with Jon back in the mid 80's where he said that most of the time he did not know what the hell they were writing/singing about. This is the explanation I like the most as it means I don't have to think about the words and just enjoy

fish62858
10-20-2004, 04:44 AM
can't say for sure, but i think the misprint continued on to the "liver" line, as i believe i've since heard it sung "rearrange your living"

i also think jon has said something to the effect that it is more the sound and pattern of the words against the tune that he considers when writing.
translate to ... if it sounds good, go with it, figure it out later, if ever....

BrianD
10-20-2004, 05:18 AM
Here is a bit of interesting trivia.

The sellout MSG concerts in 1974 were sponsored by UK music mag 'Melody Maker' and this was the first time that a foreign magazine had promoted concerts in the US. The concerts grossed about $250,000.

mattquarterstein
10-20-2004, 06:49 AM
Maybe one for Total Mass

What does 'A Seasoned Witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace
and rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace' supposed to mean

This is my interpretation:

"A seasoned witch" may represent the experienced musician, creating music like magic which, if you're feeling low can "call you from the depths of your disgrace". "Rearrange your liver" may be similar to the phrase "to jolly the liver" which means to be cheered up by something. "The solid mental grace" is that something, the power of music perhaps.

Or maybe not...

Professor Yessor
10-21-2004, 08:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by remembering
Maybe one for Total Mass

What does 'A Seasoned Witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace
and rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace' supposed to mean



This is my interpretation:


This just in: there is no meaning to these lyrics. Which is true most of the time,
especially with the Trooper era.

They're just phonetically pleasing, poetic, and fun.

For me, that's enough.

fovman
06-11-2005, 06:27 AM
Yeah, and Trevor says he wrote the bass line for 'Owner' while he was in the toilet. He said it was a "particularly long visit." :lol:

An original limerick:

There once was a man named Trevor
And “The Fish“ thought he was quite clever
On the toilet quite long
He wrote a “yessong”
The first “number one” for them ever

brotherofmine
06-18-2005, 11:12 AM
On the 28th October 1978 'Tormato Tour' at Wembley Arena, Yes did TWO shows on the same day. An afternoon show and then another show at night.

Mawa
06-24-2005, 02:27 AM
can someone email me the word to a yes song that has the words remember me.
I dont know the name of the song .Please help. email me at vivian_denise@hotmail.com

cinderella
06-24-2005, 02:30 AM
An original limerick:

There once was a man named Trevor
And “The Fish“ thought he was quite clever
On the toilet quite long
He wrote a “yessong”
The first “number one” for them ever


(Moaner of a Lonely Fart)


Hee-hee! I just now saw this. I laughed so loud I scared the cat! :lmao:

fovman
06-26-2005, 01:45 AM
Trevor was hired in the studio for Mr. Mister when their guitar player quit.
Mr. Mister also used a former ~yes~ producer.

Andy56
06-28-2005, 06:01 PM
Despite the references to the Olympics, the lyrics to "Going For The One" were written by Jon after he'd watched a horse race on TV.

Swig
04-30-2006, 11:15 PM
I do know:
hot color, melting the anger to stone cold
is in reference to Kent State, four dead in Ohio.

Driving around upstate NY several (?) months ago, where I now reside, listening to a radio show and hearing Jon say this kind of blew me away. For it was after sitting in a dorm room at Kent State (where I went to school) in 1991 and hearing Long Distance Runaround for the first time (HA! just in time for the Union tour) from a band I only knew from "Owner of a Lonely Heart" led to me purchasing every available recording from them (except for Drama which I still do not own) in the next four months, and wanting to start a band so I could play bass (which I never played but again, it was after hearing Long Distance Runaround).

Hed G.
05-01-2006, 12:08 AM
... hearing Long Distance Runaround for the first time (HA! just in time for the Union tour) from a band I only knew from "Owner of a Lonely Heart" led to me purchasing every available recording from them (except for Drama which I still do not own)...

You've got to get Drama! If you're into the bass thing, this is one of Squire's
better recorded works!

Swig
05-01-2006, 12:43 PM
I need to get it. It was just some of Trevor Horn's vocalizations on the tunes I've heard that kept me away.

shortexchanges
05-01-2006, 12:48 PM
Rick lost a fast finger contest (on piano) on BONZAI!! It is hilarious to hear Mr. Rick Wakeman in broken japenese-english!!

miisteer rvick vwaakemin!

rmig68
05-01-2006, 02:32 PM
Jon said that Yours Is No Disgrace was written about the soldiers in the Viet Nam War and that they should not feel disgraced, but rather they were victims of the times

Bugeyes
05-04-2006, 09:45 AM
Need more input, please!

And thanks for everything so far.
:angel:

Yescelt
05-05-2006, 07:42 AM
Have you read Thomas Mosbo's book "Yes, but what does it mean?", which is Thomas's personal interpretation of Yessongs and their meanings.

It can be rather heavy reading at times, for those with limited musical knowledge ("me"), but in parts quite interesting.

Regards, Brian

Need more input, please!
And thanks for everything so far.
:angel:

Hacman
05-05-2006, 10:20 AM
I need to get it. It was just some of Trevor Horn's vocalizations on the tunes I've heard that kept me away.

If you heard it on "The Word is Live", I hear you. His vocals were pretty brutal live, on the stuff I've heard, but on the album they were quite good and Chris really sang more harmony on that album than any other, I think.

Machine Messiah and Into the Lens have great lyrics.

RickyG
05-31-2006, 11:29 AM
Ok, this is a trivia question:

Where does YES make a direct musical quote from Sly & The Family Stone???

(I refered to this in my Yes/Byrds thread, but no one responded with the answer.)


The answer details would be:

On which song, album, which YES musician plays the quote, which Family Stone song is being quoted??

(No Trudes, you can't answer this one! ;) )

georgiakhatru
05-31-2006, 03:13 PM
I wanna . . . I wanna . . . I wanna take you higher!

Heard Squire play the famous riff from that song on the keyboard break in Roundabout on the Keys DVD and on the Yespeak live set.

Boom Chakalakalaka, Boom Chakalalaka!

RickyG
05-31-2006, 03:50 PM
I wanna . . . I wanna . . . I wanna take you higher!

Heard Squire play the famous riff from that song on the keyboard break in Roundabout on the Keys DVD and on the Yespeak live set.

Boom Chakalakalaka, Boom Chakalalaka!

YES!! I am glad someone noticed/knows it!!! Of course it's on the Keys CD too...

That's one of the best placed musical quotes ever!!!


[Freddie:] Feeling's gettin stronger
[Larry:] Music's gettin longer too
[Rose:] Music is flashin me
[Sly:] I want to take you higher
Baby baby baby light my fire

[All:] Boom shaka-laka-laka Boom shaka-laka-laka

I love the Larry Graham vocal lines.... whenever he did a line in a Family Stone song.... such a cool voice!!!

Music's getting longer too-oo-oo-ooo!!
(Maybe Sly was listening to a YES album when he wrote that? ;) )

cinderella
05-31-2006, 04:05 PM
Trevor Rabin said, "There's actually a couple of words on Owner Of A Lonely Heart where Jon had left the country and Trevor Horn wasn't happy with them. I redid the words sounding like Jon. If you go back and listen to it I'm sure you can find them."








Well can you??

georgiakhatru
05-31-2006, 04:14 PM
RickyG -- Another bit of minor trivia: Wasn't Sly Stone's bass player credited with being the first to slap?

RickyG
05-31-2006, 04:34 PM
RickyG -- Another bit of minor trivia: Wasn't Sly Stone's bass player credited with being the first to slap?


Yes, I believe so. And his name is Larry Graham, the one with the really cool voice I mentioned.

"Thank You Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin" is the classic slap bass breakthrough tune.

dun, dun, bop, - bop
dun, dun, bop, - bop

ya know?


Lookin' at the devil, grinnin' at his gun
Fingers start shakin', I begin to run

Bullets start chasin', I begin to stop
We begin to wrestle I was on the top

Want to thank you falettinme be mice elf agin
I wanna thank you falettinme be mice elf agin

Stiff all in the collar, fluffy in the face
Chit chat chatter tryin’, Stuffy in the place

Thank you for the party, But I could never stay
Many thangs is on my mind, words in the way

I want to thank you falettinme be mice elf agin
Thank you falettinme be mice elf agin

Dance to the music
All nite long
Everyday people
Sing a simple song

Mama's so happy
Mama start to cry
Papa still singin'
You can make it if you try

I want to thank you falettinme be mice elf agin
Thank you falettinme be mice elf agin

Flamin' eyes of peoples fear, burnin' into you
Many men are missin' much, hatin' what they do

Youth and truth are makin' love
Dig it for a starter
Dyin' young is hard to take
Sellin' out is harder

I want to thank you falettinme be mice elf agin
Thank you falettinme be mice elf agin

cinderella
05-31-2006, 05:19 PM
What's the meaning of "final eyes" ?

Final Eyes was performed 4 times to a live audience. Before they began to play it, Jon Anderson introduced it as "A song about a loved won and a love lost and then love won again."


Trevor Rabin thought it was a difficult song due to too many mood changes. He said Jon's voice sounded good, but structurally as a song it didn't work and unfortunately didn't sound good live. They performed it here in Virginia, it didn't go well with the audience and they quit doing it.

cinderella
06-01-2006, 01:10 AM
Trevor Rabin made an album back in South Africa under a different name. He called himself Trevor Terblanche and his album was called Lekkar Kitaar. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Cinderella528/N99%20Smileys/grin.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Cinderella528/Trevor/TrevorTerblanche.jpg

Scooty
06-01-2006, 01:14 AM
Trevor Rabin said, "There's actually a couple of words on Owner Of A Lonely Heart where Jon had left the country and Trevor Horn wasn't happy with them. I redid the words sounding like Jon. If you go back and listen to it I'm sure you can find them."








Well can you??


I most certainly cannot.

I've tried since I read this quote for months...I haven't a clue. Which is a good thing! Trevor did an outstanding job.

cinderella
06-01-2006, 01:24 AM
I most certainly cannot.

I've tried since I read this quote for months...I haven't a clue. Which is a good thing! Trevor did an outstanding job.

I think it's 1:21 into the song when you hear "watch it now" the eagle in the sky. I think Trevor sings the "watch it now." Not sure, just my opinion.

Scooty
06-01-2006, 01:25 AM
I think it's 1:21 into the song when you hear "watch it now" the eagle in the sky. I think Trevor sings the watch it now. Not sure, just my opinion.


Really???
I must go check..

Thanks Cinderelly :)

Scooty
06-01-2006, 01:34 AM
I do believe you are right...
it's the only instance in the song (with headphones on) that I question wether or not it is Jon..interesting!!!

JL
06-01-2006, 04:32 AM
Trevor was hired in the studio for Mr. Mister when their guitar player quit.
Mr. Mister also used a former ~yes~ producer.

Mr. Mister also used a futute King Crimson drummer.

Scooty
06-01-2006, 04:38 AM
Mr. Mister also used a futute King Crimson drummer.


That's right, Mr. Mastelleto!! (sp)

11
06-01-2006, 10:23 AM
How many different keyboardist have toured with Yes (fulltour-not just one show) and who are they?

Kaye, Wakeman, Moraz, Downes, Khoroshev, Brislin

Would Julian Colbeck from the ABWH tour be included as well?

And although not a touring keyboardist, how about counting Billy Sherwood as a keyboardist for his work on OYE?

RickyG
06-01-2006, 04:11 PM
Kaye, Wakeman, Moraz, Downes, Khoroshev, Brislin

Would Julian Colbeck from the ABWH tour be included as well?

And although not a touring keyboardist, how about counting Billy Sherwood as a keyboardist for his work on OYE?


I would not include Sherwood, because he was playing guitar on tour, not keyboards.

But I would include the guy who did the 90125 tour. The guy who was hidden under the stage and played all the parts that Tony Kaye couldn't handle. I think his last name was Young. Jeff Young??? Or something...

I hate the whole "fake" band thing where you need to hide someone backstage to make the band sound better. Kansas did it back in the day once too. A good friend of mine wandered around the the back of SPAC during a Kansas show we were at and there was a guy in a room with headphones on playing the piano parts to whatever song they were playing. The piano player got all excited and waved at my friend frantically to go away.

Yes_Fan_4_Life26
06-01-2006, 04:37 PM
Casey Young is the name of the n00b who hid under the stage. :D

cinderella
06-01-2006, 04:43 PM
I do believe you are right...
it's the only instance in the song (with headphones on) that I question wether or not it is Jon..interesting!!!

Yeah I think so too. Well Trevor said if we listen we can find it.

If that isn't it, then I'm perplexed! http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/060.gif

11
06-01-2006, 06:03 PM
Casey Young is the name of the n00b who hid under the stage. :D

The other behind-the-stage keyboardists are Robbie Eagle on the Big Generator tour and Will Alexander on Masterworks tour.

Professor Yessor
06-02-2006, 02:51 PM
Steve Howe played for "Bodast" before Yes.

The name of the guy who played the recorder on "Your Move"
is Colin Goldburg.

The reason for the different mixes in the studio version of
CttE is somewhat attributable to the fact that they had to
break down all the gear in between recording sessions.

Rick Wakeman left the band for "musical differences" but
Eddie Offord opined it was because he was the only non
pot smoker.

Bill Bruford left the band because he felt that further forays
into prog-rock with Yes would merely be "Son of Close to the Edge."
( Like he did anything better with King Crimson... )

It's hard to believe that Jon left the band after Tormato to
be with Vangelis, at the same time Yes released Drama, teaming
with the Buggles, and then followed by Steve's adventure into
Asia. Rick went and played for Ozzy. Meanwhile, Chris ended up
hunting down Trevor Rabin... It seems like everyone wanted to
go do something more mainstream commercial. They couldn't have
done that together ???

IMHO -- forging together the musical differences of opinion is
what makes a great band greater.

Jackaranda
06-04-2006, 04:29 PM
A session musician plays Sitar on It Can Happen, not Rabin.
Steve Howe was on the Delany and Bonnie tour that featured Eric Clapton and George Harrison.
Possibly the 2 most popular Beatle solo songs are Imagine and My Sweet Lord. Alan White plays drums on both.
When the recording for "I'm Running" was finished, Alan had to re-do the drum part note for note because the drum track was unusable.

pedro skychaser
06-04-2006, 04:49 PM
paul macartney was invited to hear the final mixing of rythm of love-alan said he dug it!!!would love to hear a reformed wings cover it!
steve howe recently played slide guitar on an ianDury tribute album by the blockheads(dylanHowe drums for them)...ian would have liked that he was an artSchool lecturer
who spoke often of the DIVINE CORKSCREW of steveHowe...(no i made that last bit up)

Buglunch
06-06-2006, 07:10 AM
Casey Young is the name of the n00b who hid under the stage. :D
It's right here in purple and white:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=7769

Make this site a favourite.



Bill Bruford left the band because he felt that further forays
into prog-rock with Yes would merely be "Son of Close to the Edge."
( Like he did anything better with King Crimson... )



Have you even heard Red once??

khalpin
06-06-2006, 08:03 AM
The band drove by a dump/junk metal scrapheap everyday going to the studio while recording Relayer and would grab huge pieces of metal which they would bring back to the studio and bang on during the battle section to get that "clashing" sound.

Professor Yessor
06-07-2006, 08:12 AM
Have you even heard Red once??

Well, no, actually, this is the first I've ever heard of it.

My point was simply that Yes did go on to do some pretty awesome music
after CttE, and I think that it's fairly safe to say that YES went on to greater
heights of music, career than King Crimson did. Bill Bruford made a bad career
move. YES still had a lot of fuel in the tank.

Ash
06-07-2006, 09:22 AM
Hi all,
A bit late in the day, but I've been reading through this thread. On 'rearranging your liver' take a look at the 'Yes Philosophy' thread, post 84.

Did you know Peter Banks quotes from Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 1, in his solo on 'I See You', just the first few bars of the C minor fugue. Not many people know that!

Chris has a scar on the bridge of his nose after he collided with one of Bill's cymbols, edge-on (ouch!) while playing a show whilst tripping. Apparently it was a decisive event in him giving up using psychelics.

Just thought you'd like to know......

All best wishes,
Ash

Ash
06-07-2006, 09:24 AM
Hi again,
I think the King Crimson trilogy of albums: Larks' Tongues, Starless, and Red, are quite wonderful! Easily their best work.

Ash

fovman
06-07-2006, 11:55 AM
"In and around the lake..." (Roundabout) is referring to Loch Ness.

Orbert
06-07-2006, 04:43 PM
Well, no, actually, this is the first I've ever heard of it.

My point was simply that Yes did go on to do some pretty awesome music
after CttE, and I think that it's fairly safe to say that YES went on to greater
heights of music, career than King Crimson did. Bill Bruford made a bad career
move. YES still had a lot of fuel in the tank.
Yes enjoyed more commercial success than King Crimson, but whether they went on to "greater heights of music" is quite subjective. The King Crimson of the 70's (Fripp-Wetton-Cross-Brufod) is regarded by many as the best Crimson period. They had incredible range, from blistering, screaming rock riffs to quiet, introspective improvisations. They were Art Rock whereas Yes were Prog. Bill felt that Yes had gone as far as they could in the direction they were going (Close to the Edge still regarded by many as their peak) and the opportunity to make new, experimental, and very exciting music with Fripp simply seemed more attractive. Bill went from a frustrated jazzer playing in rock bands to a well-rounded, extremely versatile percussionist while in King Crimson. Earthworks would not be what it is today, and Bill would not be the percussionist he is today if not for his tenure in King Crimson. I don't think it was a bad career move at all. Artists first and foremost must continue to grow, and in that light, Bill made exactly the right move.

Ash
06-08-2006, 04:07 AM
"In and around the lake..." (Roundabout) is referring to Loch Ness.

Should we be singing,

In and around the loch,
mountains come out of the Skye?

Makes sense to me anyhow[e]!

All best wishes,
Ash

BrianD
06-12-2006, 06:40 AM
Here is a question to ponder.

When did Yes last play a full concert without playing Roundabout, Owner of a Lonely heart, And You And I, I've seen all good people AND Close to the Edge?

YesJen357
06-13-2006, 12:43 AM
I don't know about the last time.......(maybe not since the YES Tour???)
However, if they want to drop some of them to make way for songs from the 'next' album.....I won't mind too much!

Amy
06-13-2006, 12:50 AM
Here is a question to ponder.

When did Yes last play a full concert without playing Roundabout, Owner of a Lonely heart, And You And I, I've seen all good people AND Close to the Edge?
This sounds familiar. Might it be MSG or Allentown 2004?

BrianD
06-13-2006, 04:15 AM
No - it wasn't in 2004

Yes_Fan_4_Life26
06-13-2006, 09:48 PM
The Early Years?

podo
06-13-2006, 10:30 PM
In the very last section of CTTE, during Wakemans keyboard solo, you can hear someone yell out "hey". Its coming out of the main riff and into the D chord. Im presuming its Bruford indicating the change. I'll try and remember the time on the track where it occurs.

podo
06-13-2006, 10:33 PM
[QUOTE=bataisflow]Yes was the first band to use lasers and an In the Round stage setup in concert.
QUOTE]

This isnt true.. I saw the Rolling Stones in Sydney during the 60s (I was very young !) and they played in the round. It was even a revolving stage. They where supported by Hermans Hermits

BrianD
06-15-2006, 05:31 AM
The Early Years?


No - it was much later than that

Jackaranda
06-16-2006, 03:58 PM
Here is a question to ponder.

When did Yes last play a full concert without playing Roundabout, Owner of a Lonely heart, And You And I, I've seen all good people AND Close to the Edge?

The Talk tour?

BrianD
06-16-2006, 05:10 PM
No - it was later than that.

smatt
06-16-2006, 05:20 PM
Here is a question to ponder.

When did Yes last play a full concert without playing Roundabout, Owner of a Lonely heart, And You And I, I've seen all good people AND Close to the Edge?


:lmao: Well that's easy Brian...

That would be Las Vegas Dec 3rd, 2002...... I ws there ;) They'd been playing CTTE, but dropped it that night due to Jon's shaky voice...

BrianD
06-16-2006, 05:22 PM
Thats correct Matt - and to me that goes to show that it can be done - BTW was it a good concert?

smatt
06-16-2006, 05:34 PM
Thats correct Matt - and to me that goes to show that it can be done - BTW was it a good concert?


It was an awesome show Brian! Me and Dr. Omar were 1st row (which at the Hard Rock Vegas is about 15 inches from the stage) right in front of Chris.... I felt like that guy in the memorex commercial all night :lmao: Then afterwards, I sat at the roulette wheel with Alan all night.. He sent me off to bed, just as you could see the sun rising though the doors of the casino.... That was also about the time I 'd lost the $1,500 I'd won earlier in the evening :crybby:

It was a wonderous time though! :clap:

trevorforever
11-25-2009, 12:45 AM
Endless Dream:

-Yes' first epic in 14 years
-The song is based on an abandoned, distantly reminiscent demo from the 1979 Paris sessions